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Have you converted anyone?

157 replies

justlookatmenow · 05/01/2019 17:45

have you managed to convert anyone to become vegetarian/vegan?
Or has someone converted you?
If so how?
(I'd like to convert someone, can't see it happening though)

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GlitterStick · 05/01/2019 19:19

Exactly @DoggaWasFunny! As I said, OP vair confused lol

crackerbaron · 05/01/2019 19:19

Vegetarian for 15 years, live with a DH & now baby DD I wouldn't dream of trying to 'convert' Hmm

Intohellbutstayingstrong · 05/01/2019 19:21

Converting as in educating people about the meat industry then yes I have

GlitterStick · 05/01/2019 19:21

Vegan hate? Not from me anyway, DH is vegan and I'm not but do eat a lot of vegan food.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 05/01/2019 19:23

Did you start this thread with the intention of saying, in a nevertheless strangely completely uncommunicated lighthearted way that you really admire his cooking and wish that he too were vegan so that you'd be in a position to eat everything that he cooked - or did you realise that you came across as very controlling and so backtracked to make it 'retrospectively' lighthearted.... ?

Pobblit · 05/01/2019 19:23

Just to agree with a poster further up. Nestle are barbaric in their methods. I researched into it a few years ago. Horrifying.

They supply just enough free formula for a breastfeeding mothers supply of milk to dry up. After that, they charge an extortionate amount for formula, also knowing perfectly well that the mother's water supply will be unsanitary and unsafe. Many, many babies have died at the hands of Nestle.

As to the PP, meat eater all the way here Grin

justlookatmenow · 05/01/2019 19:23

Outpinked

Ok????

But I'm not... had two children never even considered not letting them eat meat. Never even tried to encourage them not to. I do get personal choice you know.
I just wish my fella would personally choose to make a delicious meat free lasagna....because as he's munching away on it next to me I'm salivating

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EssentialHummus · 05/01/2019 19:24

Not exactly, though exposure to Vietnamese, Indian and Pakistani food has made me much more confident about cooking flavoursome food without meat. Janice Turner said something analogous in the Times today, I think - that Ottolenghi is doing more to “convert” people to vegetarianism than PETA.

Saracen · 05/01/2019 19:26

Sorry haven't RTFT but I am a meat-eater who is increasingly leaning toward eating less meat. Partial convert, I guess.

"The only reason I'd like to 'convert' (sorry) is because he's a fab cook and I'm missing out on his making dinners."

Maybe show him Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall going vegetarian for a season? Hugh thought it would be an interesting experiment. I think many meat-eaters like me would be receptive to the idea of eating more vegetarian/vegan food even if we aren't prepared to cut out meat entirely, and we might be more open to hearing about this idea from someone else who isn't 100% long-term vegetarian himself.

justlookatmenow · 05/01/2019 19:27

Yanbbers.

10 years together

But I agree with you as this was more lighthearted than it's been made put to be

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Subtlecheese · 05/01/2019 19:27

I think that anyone trying to "convert" someone is doing the holdier than though shite to be expected (but rarely experienced) from people with faith and will likely result in a metaphorical door in the face.
If you maybe just got on with it, gave out great recipes and calmly pointed to your reasons then people might take your views on board.

Smallhorse · 05/01/2019 19:29

I was instrumental in converting two vegetarian friends to eating meat.

They were astonished at the incredible range of flavours they had missed out on

Midnight21 · 05/01/2019 19:29

You'd like to what? Noooo.Unless whoever it is is a blithering idiot I'm pretty sure they are aware of what vegatarian/veganism is without the input
(vegan here btw)

trinity0097 · 05/01/2019 19:30

Not to veganism, but to low carb/high fat as a tool to reverse T2 diabetes, yes.

slashlover · 05/01/2019 19:31

The only reason I'd like to 'convert' (sorry) is because he's a fab cook and I'm missing out on his making dinners.

So why not learn to cook lovely veggie meals for him once in a while? Or ask him to show you how to cook the lasagne and then work out how to make them veggie?

justlookatmenow · 05/01/2019 19:34

Webuiltthiscityonsausageroll

It's ok, we don't need relationship counselling over this.... we're not about to split up over him having beef on his Sunday roast tomorrow

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Badcat666 · 05/01/2019 19:35

I converted MrBC to the dark side of the force but granted he was half way there anyway.

If vegans started going door to door trying to covert people I will have to revert to what my mum said donkeys years ago to the JW that turned up when we were busy cooking dinner.

"Sorry, we are about to sacrifice a goat to Satan, could you come back tomorrow?"

justlookatmenow · 05/01/2019 19:41

Midnight21

You're spot on, like I said I have no chance in reality, he loves his meat, I'm really not into forcing anyone into anything that's not for them.

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straightouttavagina · 05/01/2019 19:45

sort of. I've never tried to. It's always been people who wanted to anyway, and with my guidance they did it. I used to have people round for food, make great , cheap, easy vegan meals and have them learn how to cook it and answer questions in a non-judgmental way. I'm approachable and 'normal' not like a vegan stereotype. I'm realistic. People have often approached me or text/messaged me asking for guidance and I've given it (not just cooking, but answering their questions about how to keep healthy etc). It works being friendly , you catch more flies with (vegan alternative to) honey I guess Wink

LipstickHandbagCoffee · 05/01/2019 19:45

I have been vegetarian since I was 16,It’s a personal choice,I don’t initiate conversions
The worst type of vegetarian/vegans are the come latelys,recently converted
They’re preachy and give veggies a bad name with all that banging on
I eat plant based,don’t particularly eat meat substitutes,the pretend chicken,fake ham

Eat what you want, whilst allowing others to eat what they want

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 05/01/2019 19:52

Converting as in educating people about the meat industry then yes I have

You do understand that there's no such thing as 'THE' meat industry, don't you?

I buy meat from my local butcher's shop. I know them well. They humanely rear their own animals on their own farm (you can see the animals, out in the open, from the road as you drive past - there are plenty of similar caring family farms and shops to theirs around the country).

Therefore, they are obviously essentially part of 'the meat industry' in the same way as the horrendous, appallingly cruel pig processing factories in Denmark* and other places, where they kick and push the animals around like footballs, which I would not dream of supporting.

  • I'm sure there are also plenty of humane farms, where they DO care about the animals, in Denmark.

Do YOU stringently check the provenance of all the food that you eat by ensuring that all crops, fruit etc are harvested by willing adults who are treated properly and paid fairly by caring employers?

I've heard of a lot of exploitation in 'THE fruit industry', for example, where, in SOME cases, young immigrants are purposefully brought in from poor countries, expected to pick fruit for 12-14 hours a day without breaks, paid peanuts and bunked up in overcrowded tin shacks when they aren't working.

Should nobody ever get a pet dog, in any circumstances, owing to the fact that there are some horrible cruel puppy farms in existence?

I'd better leave it there before I'm accused of NAMPALT (not all meat producers are like that) and criticised for not wanting to make sweeping generalisations and assuming that all stereotypes must be 100% true.

justlookatmenow · 05/01/2019 19:54

Merename.....thanks for getting the gist

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WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 05/01/2019 19:54

Eat what you want, whilst allowing others to eat what they want

^^THIS. How difficult to understand can it be?

maddiemookins16mum · 05/01/2019 19:58

Ooh, that’s just reminded me to get the chipolatas out of the freezer for breakfast, thanks Op.

Poloshot · 05/01/2019 19:58

How about you live how you want to and not tell everyone you're a vegan 100 times a day which given you posted this I assume you're one of those ones.

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