Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

SW is just a weird fucking cult

395 replies

Dayzedandconfuzed · 28/12/2018 15:42

I've literally had enough of people talking about Slimming World (or Slimmers' World shudder).

It's bullshit.

It has the odd decent recipe but generally advocates for really unhealthy food habits and weird restrictions and replacements.

My main issues with it are -

Emphasis on classifying foods as 'free' or 'speed' and don't even get me STARTED on syns.

It makes members act like fucking zombies who talk in halfspeak jargon. HexBEasySp what the actual fucking fuck?

To make anything you need to use FryLight which is a heinous invention. Rapeseed or olive oil spray is 2 cal per spray and is an actual raw ingredient, not some industrial airport lubricant with added flavourings.

The amount of shit you're encouraged to add to your diet. Diet fanta and coke are staple ingredients in loads of main meals which are touted as family friendly, as are spends and other sweeteners.

It is a fucking RIP OFF. £20+ to join, £5 per week and fines if you miss a sesh. I went to a meeting twice a few years back and the group leader still adds me in group chats when attendance gets low cos he's clearly missing the $$$ now that nobody is buying his fucking HiFi bars.

I just don't see that this works. I don't know anyone who has consistently kept weight off with it - most people tend to become either yo yo dieters or shadow ED sufferers.

Why is this still a popular industry that people keep funding even though we logically know it doesn't work?

OP posts:
malificent7 · 28/12/2018 15:47

I stopped. It does work well at first but o dont want to spend a fiver pw.
Just eat loads of fruit and veg....or speed food and be careful with everything else. It's common sense.
I went off ot when they talked about their Cheistmas eve gathering...er no...i was stuffing my face on chocolate xmas eve thanks.

CaptainMarvelDanvers · 28/12/2018 15:52

I went for a few sessions. The book was fine but the meetings were pointless, no actual help regarding having a healthier lifestyle. Most of them spent time trying to finding cheats. I was also perplexed at the thought of pasta being ‘free’ to eat. I know they are expecting overeaters to have self control and common sense to not eat as much pasta as humanly possible but there is a reason they are overeating in the first place.

My pet peeve was ‘Star Week’!! It’s a room full of women, you can just say period or menstruation.

And the way that the Slimming World people you meet at work start speaking in codes and giving you the same spiel.

catsoup · 28/12/2018 15:54

It can get quite weird and the obsession to make every meal "free" so that you end up having cauliflower as a pizza base?!

It did my head in but I will say that I learned to eat a lot more veg and fewer carbs which did help me shift weight.

Beebee8 · 28/12/2018 15:55

Agreed on all the above points! I think the same about all 'diet clubs' though. Foul!

DeloresJaneUmbridge · 28/12/2018 15:55

It’s a cult.

And they cNnot tell you the science behind how they work out a Syn because there is no science behind it.

And their HiFi bars (a Healthy Extra choice) have less fibre than an apple and more fat and calories that the Special K bars which are now no longer a Healthy Extra .

You couldn’t make it up....oh wait...they did,

All diets are rubbish ....only 5% of people keep their weight off for good ...that’s a proven fact.

Meanwhile the real killer is inactivity....start moving and stop dieting,

crosser62 · 28/12/2018 15:56

I agree 100%.

The clapping while all sat in a horseshoe because Brenda lost 1/2 a lb despite her daughters wedding, then the “Doris, what went wrong? Are you disappointed that you gained 7lbs this week... was it because you ARE NOT EATING ENOUGH!!!!” WTF?

No, enough, no more.
Shite, utter shite.

DonaldDucksTowel · 28/12/2018 15:57

It’s just sugar sugar sugar
I’m baffled that it actually works

Fairylea · 28/12/2018 15:57

I think it works if you really buy into the whole “tribe” thing and the whole idea of shaming yourself into losing weight by going to the weigh in every week.

But, I do think it’s also cashing in on what’s basically a diet. And not a particularly healthy one at that. My best friends are all into it and go on about it non stop but their day is made up of syn counting and working out what they can have / when. There’s no push to move more or excercise more, which to me is - if you’re able to- the basic starting point to lose weight alongside a generally healthy diet.

Autumnchill · 28/12/2018 15:57

It worked for me back in 1999/2000, lost 2 stone. However, unlimited pasta and rice doesn't work for me now as a 45 year old so I use Calorie Counter app which means nothing is off limits and my portion sizes are much more realistic and I can adapt any recipe I want to fit into my calories

MamaLovesMango · 28/12/2018 15:57

Do you follow RebelFit on FB @dazedandconfuzed? If you don’t, you should. You’ll find your people there Wink

Zara85 · 28/12/2018 15:58

I almost joined SW then decided it sounded like bulshit (also my sis goes every week and hasn't lost a lb yet although she is not trying hard I don't think).
I've lost 10lb in 10 weeks just by calorie counting. I'm trying to stay at 1200 a day but still eating what i want, just less of it. Snack on fruit and veg and eating less has meant I've gone from 10st 6 to 9st 10 in 10 weeks. And i don't exercise much either. I think SW sounds like a big faff

CaptainMarvelDanvers · 28/12/2018 15:58

Are SW still trying to sue Aldi for having their Slimfree microwave meals or did they ditch that idea?

The way that SW chooses which food to endorse based on partnerships rather than nutritional value is strange too!

DeloresJaneUmbridge · 28/12/2018 15:58

Rebelfit is a God....an occasionally blunt and foul mouthed God but a God nonetheless.Grin

DailyMailFuckRightOff · 28/12/2018 15:58

Went to a couple of meetings. Hated it. All those fat free yogurts laden with sweeteners and sugar.
I’m now trying to just teach myself to eat properly, not like a teenager.

Autumnchill · 28/12/2018 15:59

Oh and I don't have to listen to why Doris didn't lose any weight this week, perhaps it was the kebab, then the chips, then the afternoon tea followed by a lot of wine....

Userplusnumbers · 28/12/2018 16:00

Yes it is, but everyone thinks that about diets that don't work for them.

The science behind any weightloss is simply making sure that calories burned out weigh calories consumed.

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 28/12/2018 16:00

I describe it precisely this way to the women at work who are always talking about it. No thanks, Karen, I really don't want to buy any of your tiny weird fake milky-way things.

Heatherjayne1972 · 28/12/2018 16:01

My theory is that they exist to keep you fat If it worked for everyone no one would go anymore as we all be skinny and their business would dry up
And besides it’s a terrible diet for your teeth. Unlimited fruit and fizzy drinks will damage teeth
And I believe some biscuits are ‘free’
Not great

Chapterandverse · 28/12/2018 16:02

Ugh.

Hate it.

The consultants have no life.

They're out here on boxing day putting leaflets in doors....we were sitting at our dinner and watched her coming up the path.

It was like they were trying to make people feel guilt or shame for enjoying their Christmas day "right , you've obviously over eaten over Christmas and you're fst, so come now and pay me £20 to make me rich lose it again.

Why do they think people want them putting leaflets in their doors? It's a pile of shite.

And the posts on fb, even on Christmas day, about members feeling bloated and fat because they're "off plan" wtf???

Food is food, yes?

Talk about causing eating problems rather than tackling them 🙄

nothinglikeadame · 28/12/2018 16:03

It's horrendous, them and their other ugly sister, WW, rely on their customers ultimately failing so they join again.

If Slimming World or Weight Watchers actually worked 'for life' like they claim, they would have gone bust by now.

I would pay a £5 per week to go to a group that just discussed the 'Why' about being overweight, seeing as behind every obese people is a psychological reason on how they got there.

I refuse to believe that there are fat people like me out there who don't know that exercise and healthier eating would help them be less fat. It goes deeper than that.

MamaLovesMango · 28/12/2018 16:03

That he is @DeloresJaneUmbridge. I often share his posts on FB to stir the shit with my fad dieting crazed MIL back on WW again. She’s been on ‘a diet’ for nigh on 40 years. It’s....tedious.

clowdyweewee · 28/12/2018 16:03

I joined SW in 2011 and had lost 8.5 stone by 2013. I kept it off for 2 years, but am now back to where I started. The diet does work if you stick to it, but it is hard to sustain. Silly rules like mashing a banana makes it have syns- but you mash it up by chewing so how do they work that one out?

I detested the meetings too. All that happy clappy shite used to piss me off, and the meetings are incredibly repetitive.

DeloresJaneUmbridge · 28/12/2018 16:04

It’s more than that user as there’s so much research into diets out there now. They have a 95% failure rate over a five year period meaning that of those who lose weight just 5% keep it off. We need to look much more into movement...we are too sedentary and research is beginning to show that this is the biggest reason we become ill and die at a younger age,

TeaAndNoSympathy · 28/12/2018 16:06

I agree with you. I did lose weight when I tried it BUT like all slimming clubs, their model doesn’t allow most people to succeed long term. It actually really messed with my head after a while - counting syns, working out if I could have X or Y as a HE or whatever. I have had much more success with the 5:2 which I find fairly intuitive. And I can have plenty of lovely healthy things like full fat Greek yogurt, flax seeds and nuts without feeling guilty.

SneakyGremlins · 28/12/2018 16:06
Xmas Grin
Swipe left for the next trending thread