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AIBU?

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Childless DB telling me how to raise my DD, possibly UR?

91 replies

RelaxandEnjoy · 26/12/2018 22:25

As the title says, DBro tells me how I should be parenting my DD, aged 3.

I am a single mother and DD has SN (GDD, possible ASD, as well as a hearing condition and physical issues with her legs).

Due to her hearing problem, I often have to repeat what I have said to DD sometimes 5 times. She’s had 2 operations on her ears, the first worked for 6 months and the second didn’t work at all. We’re on second tier treatment for the condition right now but as she’s so small the doctors are reluctant to put her through a 3rd operation so soon after the previous two. They want to wait 6-12 months to see if the condition improves by itself – the concern is she starts school in September so if it doesn’t improve it will affect her schooling. She knows Makaton and can speak but she struggles with actual hearing and Makaton means she needs to be actually looking at me.

DB says I should expect her to listen after the 1st time and I should be making her listen by punishing her. If she is just ignoring me then I do make her do what I’m asking but it’s obvious when she’s ignoring me rather than she actually can’t hear me.

She also doesn’t walk far due to a leg condition and possibly as her hearing problem means she has balance issues. She walks less than a quarter of a mile and is reliant on a pushchair.

DB says he wouldn’t use a pushchair past the age of 2.5 as she is able to walk. Yes she can walk, yes she appears to look like a normal 3 year old but she physically can’t do it. The few times I’ve tried to walk without her pushchair I end up doing my back in carrying her as she sits on the floor, I’ve waited for her to walk, the record is 45 minutes of her sat on the floor and saying no every time I tried to get her to walk – I don’t know about other parents but I certainly don’t have 45 minutes to waste waiting for her to rest enough to walk another ¼ of a mile when the shop is a miles walk away and I need to get there before it closes. DB says I should just make her walk, and she’s just being naughty not walking.

He also says I put her in Nursery for too long (8am-5pm 2 days, and 8am-3pm 1 day a week), and has told me she doesn’t need a special school away from her friends, she just needs better parenting.

I have to be around him because my mum collects from Nursery for me on the 2 later days and he lives with my mum so sees her those 2 days when I collect her. He is constantly telling me I need a parenting class, or to give DD to her dad (who was violent towards both of us and is allowed 2 supervised a fortnight with her, attends none of her appointments, doesn’t attend parents evening and won’t even rearrange his shifts to look round schools with me – so clearly cares about her) as she is clearly not being well parented.

For context: DDs Nursery describes her as happy and polite sometimes overly polite, she’s shy and takes awhile to warm to new people but they said that once she knows you she’s a delight. She talks at Nursery and can make herself understood. My mum says she’s no trouble at all and loves looking after her, and she’s not a woman to shirt around a subject if she has a problem with you or something to do with you she will tell me.

Brother has a degree in psychology and thinks he knows it all as his specialism is Austism and spectrum disorders.

AIBU? Do I need to consider how I care for her? I love her more than anything and give her everything I can, including recently private SALT as NHS waiting lists in the area are 12 -18 months, she does swimming and dance classes, and loves life. She is a pain at time like all 3 year olds, but I do love her and I do want the best for her.

OP posts:
Reallybadidea · 26/12/2018 22:48

I would either tell him to mind his own fucking business. Probably not very constructive. Alternatively just don't engage with him about your dd. At all. Say 'yes, maybe', change the subject or just look at him in a bemused way. He can't argue if you don't engage.

He sounds like a dick. You sound like a great mum.

arranbubonicplague · 26/12/2018 22:48

Childless DH and I are world experts in parenting

Grin Years ago, I had tonsillitis near Christmas and caught part of a programme with Richard & Judy. One item was about what to do if you couldn't obtain a particular Christmas present that your child requested. The resident psychiatrist (?) Raj Persuad launched into some bizarre piece of advice like giving children supervised access to your credit card and telling them that if they could find it, they could have it but otherwise...

Anyway, the advice was elaborate and completely implausible. R&J listened, and they when Persaud finished, one of them said, "You don't have any children, do you?". He had to admit that he didn't. Classic.

This goes more than x10 for parenting advice when a child has disabilities or SN. OP, I'm sorry that your DB is choosing not to expand his academic knowledge and to learn from you and your DD on how to live with grace and dignity.

Reallybadidea · 26/12/2018 22:51

@arranbubonicplague

one of them said

Betcha that was Richard. Sounds exactly like something he'd say Grin

BottleOfJameson · 26/12/2018 22:51

He does work in a related field to his degree but not with children, not even close to children. He says me having a child has put him off as I don't do a very good job of it.

He sounds like he's going out of his way to undermine you. You don't need a degree in psychology to know that that kind of comment is incredibly unkind and unhelpful.

EncroachingLoaf · 26/12/2018 22:54

He sounds like a piece of shit to be honest op, seems like he takes pleasure in putting you down and criticising you.

You sound like you're doing a great job. Don't waste your time engaging with him and don't let him make you doubt yourself.

He has a degree...so fucking what... so do lots of other clueless twats.

Outnotdown · 26/12/2018 22:56

If your brother was your husband, I'd tell you to ltb. He sounds completely lacking In compassion, and basic good sense.

You sound like you're raising your little girl very well, and you should be getting support from your family, not the horse shit he's doling out.

He doesn't sound a million miles removed from your child's father, emotionally, I mean. And your mum, though helpful, could at least tell him to keep his nose out.

Protect your daughter from him.

Flowers
CaptainMarvelDanvers · 26/12/2018 22:58

You don’t have to answer this if you don’t want to but what is your dad like? Emotionally abusive?

I only ask because your brother does not sound like a very nice person and I’m wondering whether he has developed that behaviour from some where. Women are also at a higher risk of being in unhealthy relationships if they saw verbal and/or physical abuse growing up.

I guess what I’m getting at is that he sounds dysfunctional and I would ignore his unwanted opinions. They don’t sound like they come from a good place but rather as a way to tear you down and belittle you.

stringlightbrigade · 26/12/2018 22:58

I have name changed for this as its outing.i have a degree in child psychology. i no longer work in this field but did for 15 years.

i also have 2 DDs, approaching their teens (so been a parent a while).

they are in no way comparable and my degree rarely comes in effect in everyday life with my daughters. Also my degree would teach me that myself and 99% of the parents around me are horrific and failing miserably. the one thing that stands out is "never use food as a reward as you are promoting unhealthy eating and encouraging eating disorders". i am yet to meet a parent that does not buy chocolate as a treat or haribo or perhaps use mcdonalds as a reward. Even the buying in of Christmas treats and cheese and other "naughty" food or giving a child a selection box.

your brother is a dick. i would look for another form of childcare or ask your DM to have her at your house. If he is saying this to you then im pretty sure he will be saying it behind your back to your DM, and your daughter will hear this and grow up being told the same verbally abusive bullshit you currently are.

stringlightbrigade · 26/12/2018 22:58

I have name changed for this as its outing.i have a degree in child psychology. i no longer work in this field but did for 15 years.

i also have 2 DDs, approaching their teens (so been a parent a while).

they are in no way comparable and my degree rarely comes in effect in everyday life with my daughters. Also my degree would teach me that myself and 99% of the parents around me are horrific and failing miserably. the one thing that stands out is "never use food as a reward as you are promoting unhealthy eating and encouraging eating disorders". i am yet to meet a parent that does not buy chocolate as a treat or haribo or perhaps use mcdonalds as a reward. Even the buying in of Christmas treats and cheese and other "naughty" food or giving a child a selection box.

your brother is a dick. i would look for another form of childcare or ask your DM to have her at your house. If he is saying this to you then im pretty sure he will be saying it behind your back to your DM, and your daughter will hear this and grow up being told the same verbally abusive bullshit you currently are.

Calmingvibrations · 26/12/2018 23:00

A degree?! - that doesn’t qualify you to spout shit like that! That’s not a clinical qualification. Ignore him.
I’m sorry he’s not more supportive. He’s downright rude. I would start avoiding him. But when he starts saying crap - cut him off pretty damn quick

whatsthestory123 · 26/12/2018 23:00

ha ha hes an adult with no childcare experience and lives with his mum,says it all

op you sound kind and patient,your dc is lucky she has you to parent her and NOT him

deeplybaffled · 26/12/2018 23:01

If you can, I’d be tempted to openly record his comments and keep them to play back to him ( on loop ) when and if he has kids. It’s easy to be an expert when you have none of the real life responsibilities.....

mumsastudent · 26/12/2018 23:01

is he a BA ? If so then he hasn't the right or knowledge to practice let alone advise -

RelaxandEnjoy · 26/12/2018 23:01

My dad was emotionally and financially abusive yet, would tell my mum she was useless and not good at anything.

OP posts:
Chipbutty67 · 26/12/2018 23:04

Op, I think there are two separate issues here:

  1. Do you think your DB’s points are valid? I don’t. My cousin is a paediatrician and when I had my DS she had quite militant and unhelpful advice as her only experience was to go ‘by the book’. A couple of years later she had her own DC and realised parenting isn’t black and white. By her own admission, some of her ideas were ridiculous. I think it sounds like you’re doing an amazing job adapting to your DDs unique needs.
  1. How do you react to him? If you don’t think his points are valid, I don’t think you need to waste any effort arguing with him. I would say, sit him down once and state your position very clearly, ‘DB, I’m grateful you take an interest in DD, and consider your advice. I am her parent and I’m best placed to assess how to deal with her. Please don’t insult my parenting, it unnecessary and unproductive’ after that, just ignore him and carry on as you are.
SweetsCakesBiscuits · 26/12/2018 23:05

Your brother sounds awful and like a total idiot. He also sounds overbearing and interfering.

When you have children you quickly learn that they won’t always be the perfect, well behaved children you imagined you would have and you won’t always be the perfect parent you imagined you would be.

My DS2 used to get sore legs as a toddler and was in his buggy until age 4 when we went on long walks. It did him no harm and he got plenty of exercise in other ways like climbing around in the playground. Also, my DCs and their friends (who have no hearing issues) rarely listen to their parents on the first call if its something they don’t want to do.

I don’t think your brother knows to much about actually managing a child with issues. My child has autism and his occupational therapist and his school have helped to make huge improvements in his behaviour by using rewards and praise and teaching correct behaviour - punishment has played no part.

You don’t need your child to be a perfectly behaved drone - a small bit of misbehaviour is ok (as long as no one gets harmed). I was weirdly obedient and timid as a child and it did me no favours.

7yo7yo · 26/12/2018 23:07

Can you change things around so your mum doesn’t pick her up anymore?
He sounds like a smart arse twat, tell him to
Piss of and that he can judge you when he had perfect kids himself. I’m childish so every time he started would stick my fingers in my ears and say lalallalala until he shut up.

BottleOfJameson · 26/12/2018 23:08

My dad was emotionally and financially abusive yet, would tell my mum she was useless and not good at anything.

I think CaptainMarvelDanvers's comment was spot on. The apple didn't fall far from the tree in your brother.

Girliefriendlikesflowers · 26/12/2018 23:09

Weirdly I have a very similar situation, my dd also has various health problems and SPD (I'm also a lone parent.) My childless brother is always chipping in with his tuppence worth on where I'm going wrong 😕

I tell him to shut up and come back to me when he has raised a child solo for 10 years.

anniehm · 26/12/2018 23:09

Such a charmer...

If though he has a few good points. A friend of mine gave me advice when my dd was diagnosed with global delay (then autism the following year) - teach them the skills they need patiently then once they can do it, don't help however long it takes! Ok with walking sometimes speed is needed but take the patience to walk whenever possible, with speech make sure they are looking at you and really work on getting prompt replies - and I would consider whether to learn full sign language.

Cauliflowersqueeze · 26/12/2018 23:10

You say “DB, I don’t want your help or advice. If I do, you will hear me say to you “please help me I’m not sure what to do”. Until that moment happens, never share your views with me about parenting. Thanks”

EchoCardioGran · 26/12/2018 23:10

Sounds like he is modelling himself on his father. He needs to analyse himself.
My own diagnosis is that he is an arse.
You sound as though you are doing a brilliant job as a Mum, good on you, you know best.
Don't let him undermine you, and I agree with the advice up thread that he is probably talking to your DM about you disrespectfully when you are not there.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 26/12/2018 23:10

I would be very straight with him:

“I do not want or need your unsolicited advice. Either wind your neck in, and stop interfering, otherwise we will not be seeing you for the foreseeable future”.

mumsastudent · 26/12/2018 23:11

In BA you do modules & he may have done a couple with an essay or exam - in no way does this make him have any expertise. I wonder what kind of marks he got???

Touchmybum · 26/12/2018 23:11

My teacher relatives had plenty to say about my parenting because they knew all about children. Until they had some.

Tell him to fuck right off and mind his own business if he can't be helpful!