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To be offended - close friend

86 replies

SchnitzelVonCrum · 23/12/2018 22:32

Sorry it’s a long one, sort of a AIBU/WWYD

So background, old school friend and his DW move into same village as us at a similar time, total coincidence. Know friend’s DW to talk to as met more than a few time’s over years at social events. She’s not from the area (whereas her DH and I grew up nearby) and didn’t have many close friends nearby. She requested me on FB and arranged to meet up. DH and I have our own business so I can be flexible and I often used to take Fridays off, friend used to always make arrangements with me to say go to pub on a Thurs night or to do something with her and her baby DD on the Fri during the day. Plus socialising with our DP. Over the past 6 years we became very close firm friends. About 3 years ago one of her old uni friends also moved to the village we’ll call her x, then another old uni friend of hers also moved in about 4 months later ( it’s a very lovely area obviously seen how much my friend loved it), we’ll call her y.

X is very much a high flyer no kids, Y had kids relatively young so they’re now tweens/teens. When this happened I was dropped like a hot potato for a short while, I kind of expected this - novelty of old closer friends moving nearby but was a little hurt, anyway over the weeks started hearing more from her and later that year went through a particularly difficult time and said friend was amazing. I did expect that us all living close by I would eventually be introduced to x and y especially as y doesn’t work and they seemed to do things on a Friday often. A lot of the time at a wine bar literally a few hundred yards from my house! But no invitations were only extended less than a handful of times. I obviously did get introduced to X and Y at birthdays kids parties etc. over the last few years and have got to know them well enough, they’re both lovely and we always seem to get on well. X and I have both worked in the same industry. I suspected that it was because my friend thought we wouldn’t get on but we obviously did or that X and Y were just been polite socially. But they both added me on social media and regularly leave really nice comments and like a lot of my posts and when my baby was finally born this year. They both left lovely thoughtful gifts and cards for DD with my friend - you wouldn’t do that if you didn’t like someone would you? Y and I bonded at an event over the summer as we both realised we have a similar health problem. And exchanged no’s and have met up a couple of times recently with original friend to chat about and both X and Y put nice Xmas cards threw our door this year. Throughout all this relationship with my friend has remained the same still makes arrangements with me, calls messages etc. and we still meet up lots just maybe not quite as much and maybe there is a sliver of something not quite right. Concurrent to this original friends DD started school 18 months ago and original friend got v friendly with one of the school mums - obviously. Once again I was dropped and once again they used to do lots of things with the kids minutes from my house friend also cancelled arrangements with me a few things to do things with shall we call her Z. Again met Z more than a few times over the past year, again v nice and we get on well but again no extended invites apart from once after my baby had been born at a time friend knew would be pretty impossible for me to make. Again hurt but our friendship has continued. In the past 6 months I’ve noticed though from past couple of parties we’ve been to and from social media, that X, Y and Z are clearly all now quite good friends and know each other better than I do and clearly do social things together with that must have originally been orchestrated by original friend. I have never been invited. I could understand if they all had kids same age day but they don’t. Also dropped original friend a note last wk to see if she was doing school pick up that day as was planning a walk with baby, she said no she wasn’t doing it and DH did it on that day now. However bumped into Y a few days later and she was talking about how she’d seen original friend that day after school with the kids for hot chocolates?!? Then on Friday we were at a Christmas party hosted by original friend and there ‘were a few oh yes well see you on New Years Eve’ Original friend looked across at me panicked (I’ve known her 6.5 yrs can read her like a book) and ushered them away she’s clearly hosting a NYE party to which we haven’t been invited and were clearly the only ones.

I am mortified and hurt I’ve tried to be a big girl about this over the years but this has been the final straw. I don’t know what I have done wrong or why we are being left out. I just think well if you don’t like me why are you still bothering with me and why are your friends being more than nice to me but I’m never invited to socialise. As I’ve been typing this she’s sent me a message about going to a family day at nearby country house between Xmas and NY?!? Just really confused. Have that horrible feeling at the pit of my stomach that I haven’t had since school, you know when you know somethings going on but you can’t quite put your finger on it?!

What should I do, I felt so embarrassed on Friday evening.

OP posts:
HannahnotAgnes · 23/12/2018 23:25

I appreciate it's hurtful but it sounds to me like she likes to keep her friendship groups separate, otherwise she'd have dropped you completely when her friends arrived.

YippeeKayakOtherBuckets · 23/12/2018 23:29

I often feel like an alien reading threads like these. I’m obviously leaving people shattered in my wake as I go through life (although I hope not).

Friendships wax and wane. I can’t imagine feeling left out or hurt if friends of mine did more with other friends or didn’t invite me out. At least not more than a fleeting pang. I have deep connections and very close relationships but I don’t measure them by how much time we spend together or who is who in the hierarchy of ‘best friend’ness.

Perhaps your original friend is the same?

OrigamiZoo · 23/12/2018 23:30

Maybe you were useful when she didn't know anybody but now she has her crew whom she has bonded with through choice, wheras you were her DPs friend and not truly hers?

It is shitty and hurtful, however, she isn't the boss of you or your friendships, keep friendly and invest efforts with people you genuinely like and distance yourself from her.

JemSynergy · 23/12/2018 23:43

Just because you are friends doesn't mean she needs to invite you to everything she does or plans. However, seems odd that she hasn't invited you to her NYE party.

NotAlwaysAPushover · 23/12/2018 23:47

Time to walk away from her OP. I left my NCT group for exactly these reasons - they made me feel crap about myself with the secret whispering and clandestine meet ups. I even paid for tickets once to an event but the organiser friend refunded me and said they'd decided not to go. I later found out she told my tickets to another friend she was closer to who'd suddenly decided she wanted to go after the deadline. That was my final straw.

Sitranced · 23/12/2018 23:54

I don't think you're being Wendied. I think your first friend thinks your Wendy.

Fewminmostly · 23/12/2018 23:56

Refuse to play the mean girl's game.

Serin · 23/12/2018 23:57

She is sly and childish.
Don't let her treat you like this.
In time the others will come to see her for what she is.

choppolata · 24/12/2018 00:00

I think you are probably reading too much into this. Maybe her NYE party is a dinner party this year and she wants a smaller group. She doesn't have to invite you to everything she does!

RCohle · 24/12/2018 00:01

Does the enjoyment you get from seeing this friend outweigh the stress of feeling excluded and all her other shenanigans?

A lot of people are advising you to back off, and personally I agree. But it might be that you really do value her friendship and having a good friend close by.

PerfectPeony · 24/12/2018 00:09

Wendied?? Who is Wendy?

I don’t think this friend is worth your time OP. Can you make an effort to meet others, maybe some Mums with babies the same age?

CSIblonde · 24/12/2018 00:16

Once is happenstance, twice is a pattern of behaviour. It sounds like you were a stop gap twice and she regards her friends as hers only & doesn't want you to be a close friend or in her 'circle'. I think forget her, she's not very nice or genuine. Can you rediscover previous friends more or make new ones?

TwiceAsNice22 · 24/12/2018 00:20

I don’t think your friend has done anything wrong. It seems like she likes to keep her friendship group seperate. She clearly catches up with you and makes plans with you. Maybe NYE is a small gathering? And it sounds like she was still in contact with you when her uni friends moved close by, but was busier so couldn’t catch up as much for a bit. That’s different to dropping you.

That said, if the friendship is making you feel bad about yourself then either step back a bit or talk to her. It does sound like you are maybe more invested in the friendship. Maybe it’s a good time to branch out and try and make some more friends. I wouldn’t ruin a good friendship without talking to her though. It really sounds like she has lots of different friends and likes to focus on them separately. There’s nothing wrong with that. It doesn’t sound like she’s ever been mean or bitchy to you.

moredoll · 24/12/2018 00:22

I don't see why you can't continue your friendship with x, y and z. She doesn't own them. Your original friend isn't inviting you to her NYE bash, but that doesn't mean you have to drop them.

slashlover · 24/12/2018 00:28

So OF sees you without x, y and z.
OF sees x, y and eventually z without you.
OF was helpful when you needed her.
You bonded with y
OF invited you to a Christmas party.
OF has invited you out between Christmas and NY.
You have met and got on well with x, y and z

Your friend is allowed to have other friend groups and doesn't need to invite you to everything, no matter how close it is to your house.

Have you asked OF or y to meet up? Have you tried to arrange a meeting/night out etc?

posthistoricmonsters · 24/12/2018 00:59

It's hard to know for sure if yanbu or yabu.

Sometimes we can read too much into something. But equally, there might be something genuinely going on.

If you've got other friends to spend time with, asides from OF and Y, perhaps cool off on OF for a while and spend time with non connected people. Just to see where the land lays.

importantkath · 24/12/2018 01:03

You need to stop giving her the power to bother you.

It does totally suck though. Sorry you are going through this.

Argonauts · 24/12/2018 01:09

What Chloe and TwiceAsNice said. A lot of people prefer to keep their friendship groups separate, and won’t invite everyone to everything. And yes, as a pp said, you sound over-dependent on your friend for your friendship — you don’t need her permission to pursue friendships with X and Y.

Steamedbadger · 24/12/2018 01:32

Do you have other friends OP? Maybe spend more time with them?

Wingedharpy · 24/12/2018 02:32

Could it be something to do with your DH/DP and her DH/DP?
We stopped meeting up with another couple because my DH was bored to tears with her DH! - and possibly vice versa. Who knows?
It's not the sort of thing you're likely to disclose in polite company.
Don't over think it.

Cherries101 · 24/12/2018 02:55

Just reply no thanks to the catch up invite between christmas and new year, and keep this as yout stock response every time she needs you for something. I agree that she probably considers you more of her OH’s friend’s wife than a real friend and you’d be a mug to keep seeing her when you clearly want more.

Polkapjs · 24/12/2018 03:02

Oh I hate this sort of thing. Friendship shouldn’t be difficult or make you feel like you’re at school again. I really feel for you. I think the suggestion to back off a bit is best and I wouldn’t be seeing her between Christmas and new year

jessstan2 · 24/12/2018 03:07

HannahnotAgnes has said what I think.
We are all different and there are different 'types' of friendship.
You have to accept that, there's no 'one size fits all'.

Be cool Flowers Wine, bless you. x

nevisbump · 24/12/2018 03:17

I have a friend similar to this. All happy when it's just the two of us but in a social setting will go out of her way to either belittle me or ignore me. She would also dump me for other friends when we had arrangements. I have distanced myself from her, but it hurts. I would move on, there is nothing stopping you being friends with the other girls so would keep that up

Roobub · 24/12/2018 03:21

I agree with some of the PPs, you sound as though you do rely on original friend somewhat to make friends for you. To me it seems clear that X, Y and Z have probably just clicked and formed an easy friendship. Or, maybe Z was very proactive in fostering a close friendship with X and Y.

It doesn't sound to me like original friend has done anything wrong to be honest. You've said she still maintains her friendship with you, but by your own admission X, Y and Z are all closer friends now so it makes sense that they might be invited to a party which you aren't.

I don't wish this to sound rude at all but do you have other friends too? Maybe you could spend time working on other friendships unconnected to original friend. If your friendship with original friend does turn out to be on rocky ground you may end up losing all your friends along with her if your only friends are ones you've met through her.