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I had no idea it was illegal to buy someone a drink if they were drunk

62 replies

StealthPolarBear · 20/12/2018 12:02

I knew it was illegal to serve them but to buy a drink in rounds...?

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GrandTheftWalrus · 20/12/2018 12:27

Yep I have to refuse people entry to licensed premises if they are drunk. I also have to tell bar staff not to serve them etc.

And if bar staff have refused them and asked them to leave then they are breaking the law by being drunk.

I also get people complaining at me searching their bags before entering a concert venue but that's a whole other thread.

ErickBroch · 20/12/2018 12:27

Worked in clubs for years. We would stop serving someone if they were extremely drunk, tripping over and slurring, struggling to count money/function basically.

StealthPolarBear · 20/12/2018 12:27

I assumed serve meant sell. Its also illegal to buy a drink for a friend who is drunk.
Whoever asked for more details, embarrassingly I have forgotten where I heard this. It was only ten mins ago so would likely be on radio news or BBC new site as part of a bigger story. I can only blame the gin..

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StealthPolarBear · 20/12/2018 12:28

Eruck I get that. Refuse to serve I definitely already knew about. But this is a new one to me

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Birdsgottafly · 20/12/2018 12:28

StealthPolarBear, like a lot of other laws, especially around neglect of children, they are there to be used in extreme cases.

Before this law came in. Pubs would carry on serving people who were dangersly drunk, now there are consequences.

I used to camp on Shell Island and people would be falling down drunk but still be served.

Likewise Aielrports would serve people until they wasn't fit to fly.

It also protects Women/Teens etc, it adds onto consent laws.

There are a lot of laws which the Police and CPS use common sense over legislation.

hangry · 20/12/2018 12:28

a barman once refused to serve me in a pub because i was too drunk. i tried to say, "yes i think you are quite correct there, i am clearly too drunk and should go home now". what actually came out was "argggle"

he made a good call and i wobbled off home :)

TeaStory · 20/12/2018 12:28

Is it actually illegal? Under which law?

The Licensing Act 2003.

Buster72 · 20/12/2018 12:29

Please read the Public Health act 1984.....

SasBel · 20/12/2018 12:29

i knew that, worked in a lot of pubs. Folk who were obviously pissed did not get served. Harder to judge when they come in off the street rather than having been drinking at yout pub all evening.

Ciderandskatesdontmix · 20/12/2018 12:32

Drunk is when they can barely stand or staggering around all over the place. Also slurring so badly you can't understand what they're even asking for... if you get like that after 2 glasses of wine then I'd be worried

StealthPolarBear · 20/12/2018 12:32

Lol hangry.
Sad I knew about the law about serving. But buying a drink as a customer for a freidn is a new one.
I suspect a lot of the police break this particular law too.

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StealthPolarBear · 20/12/2018 12:33

Cider says who?

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Buster72 · 20/12/2018 12:33

Also illegal to handle salmon in suspicious circumstances

StealthPolarBear · 20/12/2018 12:34

Again, not one I'm worried about, salmon is nasty stuff :o

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Buster72 · 20/12/2018 12:35

There is a standard for being drunk, it includes slurred speech unstable dishevelled and bloodshot eyes coupled with a smell of liquor.

StealthPolarBear · 20/12/2018 12:37

Oh really? Not sure iv ever had bloodshot eyes!

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StealthPolarBear · 20/12/2018 12:37

Does make more sense then

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SleepingStandingUp · 20/12/2018 12:51

StealthPolarBear
Getting drunk doesn't have to...
Did I say it did

I didn't quote you, I quotes Tricky, so does it look like I said you did or does it look like I'm replying to Tricky abd the why would you buy a drink for a drunk person??

Folf · 20/12/2018 13:00

The bar I worked in operated on the rule that if they could walk, talk, and behave in a civil manner, they were ok to serve. If they were slurring, staggering, aggressive or abusive, then we were to refuse them service.

StealthPolarBear · 20/12/2018 13:51

With you, sorry

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StealthPolarBear · 20/12/2018 13:52

Folf, that sounds very sensible. I suppose if as a pp says there is a definion along those lines then it makes perfect sense. But imo I'm drunk as soon as I can't drive, but I am in no way violent or incapable of having another.

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StealthPolarBear · 20/12/2018 13:52

Unless Ed sheeran comes on the radio. Then I'm violent.

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BeyondVicious · 20/12/2018 13:58

The problem is that "drunk" is subjective, there's no one empirical point between the third glass of wine and the third bottle where someone passes from "tipsy" to "drunk".
And no, I didn't know it was the law either.

wheneverythinggoestitsup · 20/12/2018 14:00

I found this out recently too - pretty sure it was on a billboard.

For anyone NOT reading the OP, OP is aware that it is illegal to SERVE someone already drunk, she is talking about not being aware that it is also illegal to BUY someone (a friend) a drink if they are already intoxicated.

OP - I can't imagine how this would be enforced tbh, also I am one of those people who drinks to get drunk - which isn't very often - but I am definitely drunk after a couple of glasses of wine but would continue drinking further. I know my limits and know when to stop but I am most definitely drunk when I do.

Thisnamechanger · 20/12/2018 14:06

Drunk is when they can barely stand or staggering around all over the place

See I'd call that shitfaced Grin
Drunk to me is as soon as someone thinks shots are a good idea.