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Narcissistic controlling mother ruining my Christmas

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JeansandJumpers · 18/12/2018 12:44

Without going into the long back story, suffice to say my mother is a narcissist and controlling and I spend as little time with her as possible. I have spent only a couple of Christmasses with her over the last 20 odd years, and she has managed to be vile on both those occassions, so I am delighted when she usually plans to spend them abroad, meaning I can spend them with my good friend and kids, who I consider family, or, even, on my own! At the beginning of this year, however, she had a TIA. She has no lasting physical symptoms, but 'psychological, manifesting as physical' (eg short of breath, weak voice). Because of her TIA she has ordered myself and sister (golden child) to spend xmas eve, day and boxing day with her. I have no way of seeing my friend and kids who live a couple of hours away. I mentioned that I would like to see them eve or boxing day and she hit the roof about my selfishness and lack of concern for her now. That I was needed to do all the 'work' around xmas. Turns out she has invited friends for Boxing Day and sister and I are to prepare the meal for them. I have no husband or children to use as an excuse. AIBU to feel trapped and used? I am willing to accept that perhaps one is supposed to spend three days with their mother, and not see other friends or family. I will state every miserable minute of it.

OP posts:
tryinganewname · 18/12/2018 13:57

Just say the word 'no'. Send it in a text message and then block their numbers.

Yes, it's sad and yes, it will be hard but your mental health is worth more.

CottonTailRabbit · 18/12/2018 14:01

"I will be elsewhere at Christmas. I have other plans already." Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

"I am not changing my plans. Stop asking."

Hang up the phone. Refuse to answer calls if they won't accept your decision. "I have made my decision. This conversation is pointless. I am going now. Goodbye."

gassylady · 18/12/2018 14:04

By definition a TIA (transient ischaemic attack) is transient there will be NO physical effects now. This is all psychological ie a good stick to beat you with. Make your own plans OP

AnnabelleLecter · 18/12/2018 14:06

I was you and it took until I had DD to stand up to my mum and say no. She tried to guilt trip me with tears, accusations that I had ruined her Christmas, even tried to stop DD having presents from my aunt and uncle- which they ignored, all sorts of nonsense. She reacts to other people not doing what she wants like a child having a tantrum. I am an adult and don't give in to tantrums anymore.
I wished I had done it before. Don't make anything up, be clear that what you want is important.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 18/12/2018 14:07

Golden child thinks I am being unreasonable and should be on hand for all three days,

If golden child wants to be on hand for all three days herself then she can be. And she can make your mother's boxing day dinner too, if she enjoys cooking or wants to be a martyr. It's entirely up to her. Doesn't mean you have to be there for three days, or be there at all.

'everyone' thinks I'm awful and 'everyone' talks about how selfish I am and how I'm probably mentally ill...

"Everyone" is what children say when they don't get their own way. "Everyone" can stay out late. "Everyone" has a new iPhone.

"Everyone" is your mother's imaginary friend.

oh4forkssake · 18/12/2018 14:10

Oh we have an "everyone" only in our family it's "they say." I've started asking, who's "they." There's never an answer.

Don't go. Simple.

JeansandJumpers · 18/12/2018 14:14

Thanks all - I have had a cry and a tantrum, but reading your understanding and supportive messages has helped!! x

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CottonTailRabbit · 18/12/2018 14:18

Can you imagine going through with your no to them yet?

Strawberry2017 · 18/12/2018 14:38

This is why we pick our friends because we can't pick family.
Spend Christmas where you will be happy and welcome.
Life is to short to be miserable or with people that are not good for you. X

LoadOfUtterBoswellocks · 18/12/2018 14:44

Strikes me that whether you go or not, you will somehow fall short of the imaginary, arbitrary, temporary, secret standard that has been set. So you can either go and fail and be miserable, or stay away and fail and be happy.

ohwellinthatcasetryprunes · 18/12/2018 14:53

Don't go. Just don't.

You have lovely friends, so spend Christmas with them. Smile

FunshineCareBear · 18/12/2018 14:55

My mil had one this year. She hasn't demanded we spend any part of xmas with her because she's not a drama queen. Say no.

papayasareyum · 18/12/2018 15:19

OP, I sympathise (have a similar Mother)
Have the Christmas you want with the people you want. Can I ask those posters who said they have put up boundaries with similar family members, what did you do? I’m low contact with my Mum. It makes me sad because she’s elderly and I know I’m considered a “black sheep” because my sisters are with her all the time and see her daily (no exaggeration). It’s helpful to hear other posters saying that we don’t need to see these people who make us miserable. Every visit to my Mum involves crying, arguing or sulking, so I’ve scaled the visits right back.

pallisers · 18/12/2018 15:23

"Everyone" is your mother's imaginary friend.

love this. Don't go OP. Why is your mother - or your sister -the boss of you? You are an adult and you can spend christmas any way you want. Simply say to them "I'm sorry but I already have plans for Christmas".

Jasonmendoza · 18/12/2018 15:49

Tell your sister she can make a stick for her own back but she won't be making one for yours. Let them both get on with it.

AnnabelleLecter · 18/12/2018 15:55

My boundaries are things like:
Demands- I have plans today/tomorrow so aren't available.
Criticism- Thanks for sharing that.
I no longer feel any pity for tantrums/ shouting/ childish behaviour and I make it clear I won't tolerate it by saying things like I'm going now we'll speak again when things are calmer.
Manipulation/ bullying- I just say I've made my decision/ choice and I'm sticking to it.
Don't play their games and stand up for yourself.

agnurse · 18/12/2018 15:58
  1. A TIA is a transient ischemic attack, sometimes called a "mini-stroke". It's a temporary loss of blood flow to the brain that lasts a few hours at most and then reverses. In and of itself it's not terribly dangerous, but it can be a harbinger of a major stroke to come.
  1. Agree with the PPs. No is a complete sentence. YOU decide what to do for Christmas. Doesn't matter if you have an "excuse". If your mum isn't well enough to put on a Christmas thing herself, then she can order food or - here's a shocker - NOT HOST ANYTHING. It's not on YOU to see that she has the "Christmas of her dreams".
LucheroTena · 18/12/2018 15:58

What gassy said. It’s transient, there are no lasting effects. She’s pulling a fast one.

JeansandJumpers · 18/12/2018 16:22

Thanks all for the comments - can't tell you how much I appreciate having the time to vent, and hearing your support. I did wonder if it was 'normal' to spend three days with a parent over xmas as an adult...I mean even if you liked them! TierraJ - yup I think she has milked this TIA but I'm loathe to say it to anyone IRL. She didn't lose sight or anything. In fact, sometimes I wonder if she had one at all...

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HearMeSnore · 18/12/2018 16:39

If you find it too hard to say no (and I know it can be very hard) and you decide to give in, you should contact these Boxing Day Guests and uninvite them. Tell them your mother is far too ill to entertain and can't have been in her right mind to even consider it. Lay it on thick that you and your sister will need to be there as carers over Christmas because it will be all too much for her and you are very worried about how the stress of it all will affect her so you are taking charge and keeping disruption and excitement to a minimum.

Supply/prepare YOUR choice of festive food, not hers. And when she complains, "Oh you don't want all that rubbish when you're recovering - you need decent food! And speaking of which, no more Baileys for you! Herbal tea, that's what you need!"

Spend a good hour on the phone to your friend, loudly and profusely apologising for ruining her Christmas plans but it's just unavoidable because your mum is so very, very ill.

Either that or invite your friend and her kids to come and spend Christmas Eve with you at your Mum's!

She's hell bent on ruining your Christmas. Basically you need to find a way to make it not worth her while.

FlyingElbows · 18/12/2018 16:53

As amusing as it may seem, suggestions to play games with someone like the OP's mother are really not helpful. Op you need to heed the advice of those who are telling you that the only way to win is not to play. It will not stop until either your mother dies or you choose to end the game. I know it's so much easier said than done but you have to take control of your own boundaries. There is no "narcissist light" option. They don't do partially reasonable just because it's Christmas, if anything they ramp it right up at times like this. You have to make the choice that is best for you and make your peace with it. I'm 12 years "clean" of my mother now and I won't pretend it's easy, but I took my life back. I am not and never will be good enough and there's nothing to be gained in trying. The Golden Child's choice to remain is theirs and I give not a single fuck what "everyone" (people I either don't know or play no role in my life) think about half a story. The choice ultimately is yours.

ZenNudist · 18/12/2018 16:53

Flowers DONT GO!!

HearMeSnore · 18/12/2018 17:38

Obviously as a PP says you should take my sarcastic and passive-aggressive suggestions with a pinch of salt - they should only be attempted if you are up for a lifelong game of tit-for-tat.

You can't cure your mother of narcissism. If she won't be reasoned with or accept a compromise (I'll spend 2 days with you but I have plans for Boxing Day, end of story) then your options are to give in and give her license to do it again, or a big fat NO.

Wordthe · 18/12/2018 17:47

FlyingElbows speaks the truth... there is nothing to be gained from gaming the narcissist, or, as they say 'never wrestle with a pig you'll both get covered in mud and the pig enjoys it'

then again if it's a case of 2 pigs wrestling together then I guess the most skilled at gaslighting will win?

141mum · 18/12/2018 17:54

Don’t go. Just because she’s your mother does not mean you have to like her. Do what you want to do and enjoy x

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