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To be incensed by this - WARNING: UPSETTING CONTENT.

108 replies

Wowzrr · 11/12/2018 17:48

How can this person be released on bail.

He got away with murder didn't he?

How could anyone believe his bullshit story?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6483171/Millionaire-property-developer-40-ADMITS-battering-girlfriend-death.html#article-6483171

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BlankTimes · 11/12/2018 23:12

Why is he not remanded in custody?

Even if he's had his passport confiscated, he has the assets to "disappear" surely?

Travisandthemonkey · 11/12/2018 23:14

Why would he bother to disappear

BlankTimes · 11/12/2018 23:17

Why would he bother to disappear

Ermm, to avoid going to jail.

SemperIdem · 11/12/2018 23:18

This beggars belief considering there are S&M cases where the CPS have persued a case on the basis that a person can only consent to a certain level of pain. Cases in which no deaths occurred and no party involved in the events which causes injury wish to bring a claim.

If I recall correctly, all the injured parties in those cases were men, though. I may be misremembering there but if correct, it says it all really.

A woman was battered to death and suffered terrible internal injuries...but that’s fine because she liked rough sex sometimes?

Verdicts like this make me think that women will never be safe.

GloGirl · 11/12/2018 23:19

Fucking hell.

Travisandthemonkey · 11/12/2018 23:21

@BlankTimes
But he will get fuck all for manslaughter
A few years

feministfairy · 11/12/2018 23:25

Him being out on bail that is so offensive. He can kill a woman in the most vile way possible yet the judge grants him bail! Surely this is worth some sort of complaint?

Iwanttoswingfromachandier · 11/12/2018 23:34

Miss Connolly (pictured) was found in a pool of blood at the base of the staircase on December 18 2016, having suffered over 40 injuries - including blunt-force trauma to her head, buttocks and breast

How convenient the millionaire partner claimed it was consensual - absolute rubbish - yes if you're 'into' rough sex per se then trauma to the breasts and buttocks could be viable

She had also suffered horrific internal injuries which were inflicted during what Broadhurst claimed was a bizarre sex game involving a bottle of carpet cleaner.

It's not my 'thing' but trauma to the head is absolutely a no go - She had also suffered horrific internal injuries which were inflicted during what Broadhurst claimed was a bizarre sex game involving a bottle of carpet cleaner - so they 'enjoyed 'rough' sex yet a carpet cleaner was used to defile her?

Disgusted - another pervert allowed to roam the streets because of sa shit judge

AnduinsGirl · 11/12/2018 23:43

WHYYYYY does it take MN to draw my attention to cases like this?? WHY aren't they more widely publicised?? Fucking hell - the horrificness of something like should make daily news...make people realise on a daily fucking basis what we women are subjected to.
That poor fucking woman.

martinidry · 11/12/2018 23:45

He left her to die. How much more evidence of murder does this judge want?
She was DYING at the bottom of the stairs and he LEFT HER THERE TO DIE.
I'm sorry to repeat it but I'm shocked, horrified, angry and frightened for all women.

MaryDollNesbitt · 11/12/2018 23:48

There seems to be an increasing number of female murders at the hands of men being blamed on 'BDSM sex gone wrong'. 'Cause the obvious next step up from a bit of kinky belt whipping is battering somebody to death. These women were obviously asking for it, eh?!

It makes me so fucking angry! Angry Her injuries were horrific, though it was the subtle mention of the internal damage the poor soul suffered that made me really, REALLY shudder.

I hope they throw the bloody book at him. Cunt.

e1y1 · 11/12/2018 23:48

It's disgusting.

How can this person be released on bail = 3 words, Millionaire. property. developer.

He's worth more to the economy out of prison.

Horrible, but true.

Travisandthemonkey · 11/12/2018 23:55

@e1y1
That’s just rubbish and stupid and ill informed
As crap as you might think our justice system is. It is fundamentally ok.
There must have been huge mitigating circumstances for this to have been made a man slaughter case only. Of which we know nothing about l, because he’s pleaded guilty and we don’t have the evidence

Sometimes I think people really think we are all in a Netflix episode.

We just don’t know the facts. What happened is horrific, but we do not j ow even one 10th of the facts of this case

And I am not defending him.

SemperIdem · 11/12/2018 23:58

Mary

As a woman who does like sex a bit rough sometimes, I feel like I should have tattooed on my body “by rough I mean light spanking, not maimed or dead”. Because as you say, “BDSM gone wrong” is becoming a get out clause. It is revealing perhaps, a subconscious prejudice against women who like this sort of sex, within the judicial system as time goes on and more of this ridiculous lightweight judgments are being made.

RosemaryHoight · 12/12/2018 00:00

It's grim and frightening.

Travisandthemonkey · 12/12/2018 00:01

God even if you like hardcore bdsm. Most people who are into it are extremely safe. And it’s pain in a certain way.
No one bashed your head in after a coke binge and shoves a bottle of cleaning fluid inside you.

RosemaryHoight · 12/12/2018 00:03

Is it that hard not to kill people you shag?

Actually people who have HIV have been prosecuted. Different rules apply.

Ereshkigal · 12/12/2018 09:15

A thread about this and more cases where a woman was killed by a man and the defence claimed it was consensual sex games gone wrong:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3332144-Why-is-he-crying-Laura-Huteson-death

PoliticalBiscuit · 12/12/2018 09:51

I was thinking about this last night - it's his wealth and his status that have helped him get away with such a low plea.

It's the 50 Shades BDSM fake mindset of power/wealth - women instantly dropping their knickers at a "rich dominant men" so of course she liked rough sex. And has said above because she likes spanking that means she consented to being beaten to death.

If he was some torrid low level inner city youth with no money who likes slapping or choking his girlfriends he'd have been done for murder.

**I'm actually not saying that BDSM is any of these things, I just mean that is the ignorant view, possibly, of those in the judiciary.

SaveKevin · 12/12/2018 10:07

I read about this yesterday, poor poor woman and her family.
Surely there’s a level at which you can’t consent? I’d suggest bludgeoning over the head is way past it.
That awful graham Dwyer case in Ireland rings of this. I can only imagine the manslaughter was accepted as they were worried his expensive legal team would put enough doubt in a murder charge that he might get off.

There seems to be a thing about strangulation at the moment, this case sets a very very dangerous presidence.

Greyhound22 · 12/12/2018 10:34

I can't even remember hearing about this and it's only up the road from me. Was she worth that little that it didn't even make headline news in her local area?

Men and their fucking violence.

IchWill · 12/12/2018 11:10

That's disgusting.

A bit of consensual S&M play is far removed from flying into a rage and beating your partner to death.

IchWill · 12/12/2018 11:12

He obviously has very good lawyers the spin that ridiculous "defence". Sick bastard.

ConcreteUnderpants · 12/12/2018 11:26

Feel so sorry for her child. Motherless and having her reputation torn to shreds. Poor poor thing.

If we are to believe this, not only now without a mother but a mother who effectively got herself killed for being a drug taking kinky slag.

Misogyny at its best.

Quartz2208 · 12/12/2018 11:42

Legally to be charged with murder you have to go in with the intent to kill. The intention to kill is crucial it is the heart of a murder charge. In this to find a guilty verdict the jury would have to believe he intended to kill her - from a legal perspective this is hard to prove in a case like this, intend to hurt/punish yes to kill no.

So correctly from a legal perspective (and it is a legal one) the charge of manslaughter with gross negligence makes much more sense and is far easier to prove (hence why he ended up having to plead guilty). This has the following:

the defendant owed a duty to the deceased to take care;
the defendant breached this duty;
the breach caused the death of the deceased; and
the defendant's negligence was gross, that is, it showed such a disregard for the life and safety of others as to amount to a crime and deserve punishment.

All of which he clearly was guilty of.

So it now comes down to the fact that it is seen a being a lessor charge - this doesnt have to be the case in the article the judge himself is quoted as saying:
'Whilst is it not under the charge of murder it is still an exceptionally serious offence.

*'I have ordered for a pre-sentence report.

'The fact that I am granting you bail, you should be prepared for a custodial sentence of some length.

'I will await to have heard from both sides and then I will decide on the sentence. All sentencing options are open.'*

The maximum sentence he can give is life - and indeed recent sentencing guidelines have been set out with a recommendation that the for serious culprits the sentence should be 18 years before parole

So legally the judge is correct. There are no mitigating circumstances other than the fact that the intent is difficult to prove in this situation. Judgement should really be held until the sentencing is given. If the judge (as he has indicated) gives a life sentence with a certain amount served before parole (around 10-18 years) that is not that different to if he had been convicted of murder.