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Original poster

...to want a new political party so I actually have someone to vote for that's not one of the existing shower?

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ciderinsideher · 10/12/2018 15:35

I can't be the only one to think that this would be a superb time for a new political party to emerge. I know the UK generally doesn't do new political parties because of FPTP, but this would surely be a great way to get out of the impasse caused by the current imbeciles- mediocrities.

Even in this time of national division over Brexit, I think that one thing that unites us as a country is surely agreement that all our current party leaders are crap (OK, Corbyn cultists aside).

I ALWAYS vote but if we have an election now there is literally no-one I can face voting - they're all shite. Tories - utterly incompetent, pro-Brexit, cruel, racist; Labour - utterly incompetent, leader pro-Brexit, anti-Semitic; Lib Dems - can't even be arsed to turn up to Brexit votes and don't have any other policies; Greens - serious problems with attitudes to women and safeguarding. I'd vote Monster Raving Loony if I could but they don't tend to stand in my dull local elections, and I'm not lucky enough to have a regional alternative so that's not an option.

Who's with me for a new party? What should it be called? Policies??

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Satsumaeater · 10/12/2018 15:39

There's the Womens Equality Party www.womensequality.org.uk/

or the Liberal party - there is still one. liberal.org.uk/

bsc · 10/12/2018 15:41

Was about to comment that the WEP went down well... Hmm

otterturk · 10/12/2018 15:42

WEP don't care about women/biology.

feesh · 10/12/2018 15:48

Yes! I’ve actually considered setting one up myself. No poltiical game playing, no fudging answers in interviews, just straight up honesty.

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ciderinsideher · 10/12/2018 15:51

But the WEP are - ironically - also anti-women. And given their name, unlikely to be a serious contender.

I don't want an existing slightly shit party. I want a new party that actually offers the things that ordinary voters all want (whether Brexit or Remainer, Tory or Labour) - decent wages, decent education system, decent NHS, affordable housing, security and lower crime etc. It shouldn't be rocket science. But instead we're arguing over a unicorn Brexit that there is no way of doing that isn't either a nightmare or impossible because the EU won't agree to it.

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ciderinsideher · 10/12/2018 15:51

feesh - that's the one. What would you call it? I'll vote for you!

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StealthPolarBear · 10/12/2018 15:52

How are wep anti women? Genuine question, I have no idea

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ciderinsideher · 10/12/2018 15:56

Ah, you want to get to the Feminist Chat board! Basically they believe men can magically turn into women - which aside from dodgy science is problematic as it means they don't really know who their party is for. You can hardly fight for women's rights very effectively if your definition of 'women' includes 'men'.

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ciderinsideher · 10/12/2018 15:57

The 'they' in the second sentence refers to the WEP, obviously...

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StealthPolarBear · 10/12/2018 15:58

Damn I hoped it wouldn't be that. I had only heard a little about them but thought they were the good guys.

ViragoKnows · 10/12/2018 15:59

The Communist party came out this week as pro-women. I’ll vote for them on that basis in the unlikely event they field a candidate here.

WhatIfs · 10/12/2018 16:02

I would like each biological and social class represented and an end to upper/Middle class males dominating.

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 10/12/2018 16:12

YANBU. I loathe the Tories with a passion. I've been a labour voter my whole adult life but I think a Jeremy Corbyn run government would be a disaster. The entire system is just depressing.

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ciderinsideher · 10/12/2018 16:19

I see so many comments on social media of people saying 'I've always voted X (usually Labour) but now I have no-one to vote for'. Extremists run - or drive the agenda of both main parties. There's a huge gap in the middle for a Normal Party, not run by Etonians or multi-millionaires or crooks and which aspires to normal things that make people happy not revolutionary disaster politics in which to build some supposed Eden.

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PinkSparklyPussyCat · 10/12/2018 16:22

I've voted for an independent candidate in the past. I've no idea who I'd vote for if we didn't have one though.

WinterfellWench · 10/12/2018 16:24

Agree. If there was another general election next week, there isn't ONE SINGLE PARTY that I could vote for. Not one.

I would abstain.

WhatIfs · 10/12/2018 16:24

The problem starts at local level, weeding out and corrupting decent people.

badlydrawnperson · 10/12/2018 16:26

Unfortunately because of our useless voting system it doesn't matter a toss who I vote for because a nematode worm with a blue rosette would get elected here.

It isn't just time for a new version of old shit.

We need a properly representative democratic electoral system, like almost every other democracy in the world.

MaMaMaMySharona · 10/12/2018 16:30

I would love a new party!

I voted Labour in the last election in the hope that they could turn things around from the hideous mess we're in at the moment, but since that last election I've not been won over by anything they do. They seem to sit in the sidelines waiting to pounce on anything foolish the Tories say, rather than actually talking about their own policies and ways to fix our issues.

Now all I want is:

  • someone who will either get a second referendum or a deal that we're happy with (not sure either of those things are actually possible though)
  • someone who will fix the mess our schools are in (a post about how awful it is to be a teacher the other day really worried me)
  • someone who will fix the mess our NHS are in (DP sat in A&E for 5 hours last week and had to eventually go home without seeing anyone)
  • sort out our hideous transport system

Probably loads more that I can't think of off the top of my head...who's up for it? Smile

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ciderinsideher · 10/12/2018 16:37

MaMaMa - exactly.

That's what I want to. I think that's what pretty much everyone wants - bar a tiny number of self-interested, power-hungry politicians, foreign interests and crooks.

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ciderinsideher · 10/12/2018 16:38

I want too. Blush

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ciderinsideher · 10/12/2018 16:41

Polls on 'which leader do you think would be best' currently have 'none of the above' winning.

No-one actually wants the current pack of useless nonentities. May is an utter coward who couldn't lead a conga, Jeremy is a rather thick racist who couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery. I don't even know who the Lib Dem leader is, which says a lot about their appeal. I quite like Caroline Lucas but if she can't even manage the misogynists in her own party she can't manage the country.

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TorchesTorches · 10/12/2018 16:51

Agreed. A party that wants to remain in the EU and one that thinks women and girls matter as much as men is the party for me, but where is it?, (sound of tumbleweed). I am politically homeless.

badlydrawnperson · 10/12/2018 16:55

At various points, Labour, the Lib Dems and Tories have all promised an EU referendum.

Labour and (IIRC) a previous version of the Greens have been officially EU-sceptic too.

The trouble with parties is they will say anything to get elected and then do it all differently once they are in power.

TheChickenOfTruth · 10/12/2018 16:56

What's wrong with the Greens?
(genuine question, I've been avoiding the whole political shit shower for a while now - will pay more attention if an election looms at some point)