pip assessor lies

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Hi all.
I have read a lot of your posts regarding lies made by the pip assessors and I am joining your club.
My rejection letter was received on Friday and is a total fabrication to which I am going to fight all the way.
I had an assessor pointing, shouting and threatening me because I had a panic attack. They stated that I demonstrated good power and movement in my legs when I spent the whole duration of the assessment sitting with my feet up on the couch.
Could I make a suggestion. Is anyone familiar with starting a campaign and raising signatures for the government to make a new law stating that 'if an Employed assessor provides deliberate false and misleading information relating to any part of an assessment they can be personally sued for liable whether or not they are working on behalf of any company employed to carry out the task. If the company responsible for supplying the information requested deliberately alters the report, then the officer making the alterations should be named and is therefore also guilty of a criminal act and can be sued as an individual'
I am sure this, providing false documentation, is a criminal act but not clear weather an individual can be sued for it, but saying that, If we manage to get such a law passed through parliament then the days of the sheer fabrication, dishonest reporting and dam right lies of the PIP reports would be a thing of the past.

I know we will need 10,000 signatures for this to be debated in parliament and would think we could well exceed this if we tried.

It wouldn't be quite so bad if tribunals were held in a timely manner, say no more than 3 months from date of appeal, rather than people having to wait for over a year.

Yeah I agree with this. It took 21 months waiting for my PIP appeal. People keep saying to me 'I don't know why you are so concerned, you get a huge backpayment so you don't lose out'. Except, what good does that do me now? My living costs are the same as they were before the assessor cured me, but the illness is the same as it always was. If I did not have a family who can lend me cash, I would have been fucked, totally fucked. Ahh the backpayment must have been lovely in time for xmas, bet you will be splashing the cash, friends laugh. Well no, it was a relief to get it sorted of course. But I had a grand total of a few hundred left, after paying everyone I owed back!

My last 2 ESA ones have been great mind. However, that might have something to do with the assessors being physios, where my problem is largely a physical one. I tend to hear of the worst lies being told by people who are completely unqualified to assess the person. My aunt with serious mental health problems was assessed by a paramedic. Surely it should be people who specialise in mental health who assess mental health, and such.

Wow, sorry didn't realise this was a zombie, think this is the first time I have done that. Was browsing and forgot

@Vixxxy don't worry its not a real zombie as its less than a month old, its the ones who are over a year old that annoy people - the ones that have a message at the bottom telling you its a zombie thread

Following with interest, I have my assessment at home next Friday morning for PIP, I have put on my form when I sent it in that I will have a witness present and approved recorders.

I definitely recommend asking them their name and getting them to show you ID, it means you definitely get the name and ask what profession they are from, you have to show them some so they should at least give you their full name and qualification.
That was a tip which came from a friend who worked as an assessor for a short time, she left cos the pressure and stress was massive and while she was a MH nurse her own mh was very badly affected.

She was continually being pushed to hit targets as was making "false" reports she was told about her clients, no she was telling the truth and not denying what she could see and hear and allowing consultants letters, care plans etc to speak for themselves.

It was a short-term job for her, the stress became too much and much sadness was felt for her on her passing and the people she had tried to help from the inside, she was on the client's side all the way.

I received 0 points at assesment, 0 points on MR.
Just sent my tribunal application off online (thankful for that service as my MR letter dated 7th March didn't arrive until the 18th).
My f2f was done by a nurse typing at supersonic speed.
She never saw me walk other than into/out of her office, but claims she saw me walk 200m.
I cried through most of it, yet I was confident and kept good eye contact.
I performed all the physical examination exercises, um my arm was in a cast as I'd recently broken my wrist, due to a fall because of my postural hypotension, which also prevented me doing any bending exercises.
I can make budgeting decisions. Um that's why I was on the point of having my house repossessed, when I sold it and paid off all my debts, moved 200 miles to be able to buy a house outright.
0 points. MR 0 points.
When I went to the tribunal the 1st time they based their decision (17 points) on their observations and my word.
I'm on a PIP Fb group, and the advisor on their who helps with PIP appeals is saying that you need evidence from HCPs on how your conditions affect your daily life.
So that seems to have changed, PIP doesn't dispute you have conditions, just how it affects you.
Even my GP doesn't want to list all my conditions on my sick note "I'd be here all day". So how do I get a busy consultant to write that sort of thing (and after all, he'd only have my word on that).
Since my first award I've been diagnosed with two new health conditions.
In between my f2f and my MR I've had yet another condition diagnosed, symptoms of which have been I've had for nearly a year, but because it's easy for my GP to say it's my Fibro I had to push for investigations. But that can't be considered because it's not in my original application.
I'm partly glad that there's a long waiting time for tribunals as it helps me gather evidence.
And why the emphasis on "not currently receiving treatment for ..." when my conditions are untreatable, it's just symptom management and pain relief?