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To wonder about aliens

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Russiawithlove · 08/12/2018 06:52

A friend of mine is completely obsessed with ufos.
It's been a bit of a standard joke and over the years I've listened but not taken much notice.
Last night we had a good discussion and he lent me a book by a respected ufologist called above top secret.

Apparently Ronald Regan had heavy involvement of top secret knowledge of their existence. And also high level military chiefs.

Now I'm becoming a bit fascinated. Could there really be a top level worldwide cover up?

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ThroughThickAndThin01 · 08/12/2018 06:56

I don’t know but if we exist then surely - surely, there most be other life forms out there.

That much makes more sense than that aliens don’t exist.

lljkk · 08/12/2018 07:01

A) I don't know why anyone would care if there was a coverup. I honestly can think of few things less exciting than whether aliens have visited.

B) I love how competent and powerful government & public figures are -- according to conspiracy theorists they have mind-blowing powers. I wish!

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Russiawithlove · 08/12/2018 07:06

Very true. I so don't want to become a geek haha but I cannot put the book down.
Apparently there are so many classified documented accounts from senior military.

I guess they don't want us as silly mere humans to panic. But it is mind boggling.
Also a lot of activity has been recorded around nuclear facilities.
So they clearly don't trust us humans and will intervene if we destroy the planet too much.

That makes me feel a bit betterGrin

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FestiveNut · 08/12/2018 07:06

I'm pretty sure there is life out there, somewhere. Statistically speaking, it makes sense. I don't think they've come to visit. If they're advanced enough to get here from whatever they were, and they find us, we are likely screwed.

Alfie190 · 08/12/2018 07:38

I think there has to be other life forms out there, I am on the fence over whether they have found us or we them.

DollyRose · 08/12/2018 07:41

I'd suggest watching ancient aliens
Prepare to be mind blown😂

BMW6 · 08/12/2018 07:44

As space is infinite we surely cannot be the only "intelligent" life form in it? (Intelligent as in being able to actually leave our planet, albeit for really short distances and times)

The idea that we may be truly Alone in infinity...............just too mind buggering.

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Russiawithlove · 08/12/2018 07:47

I think I'm going to re watch the x files...i would definitely like to know an aliens opinion of humans.
Don't think it would be great Grin

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knittedjest · 08/12/2018 07:49

I don't think their is a cover up and I don't believe in little green men in ufo's but I think it is arrogant to think we are the only planet with life out there.

Slightly off topic, but not really -What always pisses me off though is when scientists dismiss a planet as having life because it doesn't commute with our needs of life. What's to say that their isn't a species out there that breathes carbon dioxide and needs darkness and coldness to survive? There are certainly weirder things that we know for a fact out there than that. Like a giant cosmic clouds of beer.

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Russiawithlove · 08/12/2018 07:58

Clouds of beer...tell me more.
I may purchase water butt for the gardenShock

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emwithme · 08/12/2018 08:16

"Aliens" (In a Roswell/Area 51/Little Green Men) absolutely haven't made contact with Earth.

I'm entirely sure about this. Trump would've tweeted about it if it had happened Grin

Ifailed · 08/12/2018 08:19

It is statistically likely that there are other forms of life in the universe, given it's size and the number of stars/planets. The questions is, how likely?
lets say it's quite likely, say 5%. There are around 511 stars within 100 light-years of us, and it is believed that 28 of them have planets in orbit, that means one of them could have life on it.
The next thing is to figure out how developed is that life? It took about 3.8 billion years for us to evolve, how far down that path has live got on that planet?
then we have to think about the logistics of travel. Assume that this alien life form have developed space travel such that they can reach 50% of the speed of light, it would still take decades for them to reach us, possibly several generations. Would they be prepared to undertake such a journey? If they were, why would they travel towards us? (we have been producing artificial radio waves for over 100 years, so they could have detected them). Throughout their flight, it would also take decades for them to communicate with the people back home - is their civilisation stable enough to support that?
Ad finally, if they were more developed than us and wanted to come for a visit, why would they invest so much, and put their own kind at such a risk, as to send some of their own species on such a perilous journey? A robot craft would be far more likely.

In summary, yes there may well be alien life forms, it could even be quite prevalent, but the chances of them actually visiting us are very slim, and would involve a much higher level of technology than we have such that they would be invisible to us, why would they be so clumsy to be actually seen, or even worse, captured?

SeaWitchly · 08/12/2018 08:24

All I can say is I have seen UFOs and I believe ‘they’ are out there.
Not sure what ‘they’ are though... have never spotted any little green men.

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Russiawithlove · 08/12/2018 08:28

Seawitchly what have you seen?

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BluthsFrozenBananas · 08/12/2018 08:28

I believe aliens have visited earth, there are a lot of reports from very credible witnesses who have nothing to gain from coming forward and there are also mass sightings.

Why they come here is another question, I’m not sure anyone knows that or ever will.

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Russiawithlove · 08/12/2018 08:32

From what I'm reading they seem to be heavily interested in nuclear sites.
One account says that odd lights were seen and a nuclear reactor completely shut down.

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Ifailed · 08/12/2018 08:32

All I can say is I have seen UFOs

I'm sure you have, in that you have seen something flying that you were unable to identify. To make the jump that because you were unable to identify the object it therefore must be alien is a huge leap of faith!

flumpybear · 08/12/2018 08:37

I think it's very short sighted to think were the only life in the universe - but like we used to think the world was flat, and the earth was the centre of the uinverse - more evidence = more knowledge. I guess it's just hard to comprehend, or scary! I guess distance is a difficulty unless alien races have found ways around it!

Camomila · 08/12/2018 08:42

I think consideing then size of the universe aliens are quite likely but if any happened to fly past earth they probably watch us for a bit (nature documentary style) and then fly off thinking those pink and brown creatures are stupid, destroying their habitat.

ScreamingValenta · 08/12/2018 08:44

knittedjest I've felt annoyed by the same thing, but wondered if I was being naive - I'm glad I'm not the only one.

Ifailed · 08/12/2018 08:50

There is a recent news story that I think can help us understand the potential visit of Aliens.
I'm sure you've all read about the US 'adventurer' killed by members of the Andamans tribe in the Indian Ocean? You may well have also heard how, after a tsunami, the Indian government sent a helicopter to see how they were doing. The Andamans responded by shooting arrows at the helicopter. The Andamans are not entirely innocent, they have had contacts with outsiders many times over the centuries, but have made it clear they are not interested.
Any alien visit would provide a gap as least as wide between the Andamans and current technology, we are at best only about 10,000 years apart. Shooting arrows at a helicopter would be similar to us firing nukes at an alien spaceship, they'd bounce off. The sad thing is, it's likely that would be our response if an alien craft did appear, and I'm sure they'd be aware of that, so they would keep themselves invisible to us, or maybe for a laugh have us fire arrows at them.

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Russiawithlove · 08/12/2018 08:52

Okay so as to cover the distance travel thing. This book suggests and claims they have bases already here and are known to worldwide military.

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Processedpea · 08/12/2018 08:57

Love those books there were a few iirc ? I was too fascinated for a while then kind of thought surely there would be more evidence since then

VictoriaBun · 08/12/2018 09:01

I don't know if aliens are 'out there's and tbh as long as they stay away I'm happy. But in regard to them being spotted near nuclear sites I'm sceptical about that. Several members of my family, and many of my friends and their families work at a nuclear site, and believe me around here , if anything had ever been sighted it would be reported, or at least spoken about.

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