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To not let my best friend hold my baby?

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floatingcarrot · 30/11/2018 16:30

NC but a frequent commenter on posts and posted a few times.

For context: I'm currently in my third trimester of my first successful pregnancy and friend is autistic. However this wasn't an issue before.

So, I have been the best friend of someone for over three years (let's call her Jane). When we first became friends, Jane was very tidy (almost too tidy) and had two pets that she generally kept clean. She cleaned every day, kept on top of things very well and her and her partner split cooking as she is vegetarian and he isn't. All seemed fine, she always looked presentable, their home smelt a little of the pets food but mostly clean, and the windows were opened to let the home air out. She had issues with hoarding, but would clear out things once every few months. Her partner has never had any interest in cleaning or helping her to do any housework, and doesn't work, but he's always "ill" with one thing or another and she just lets him do nothing, despite that he is on carers allowance and supposed to be her main support.

Since the start of my pregnancy, it's gone terribly downhill. Whenever I see her she always looks unwashed, usually in the same clothes for a week and despite sometimes having a shower within hours of me meeting her, still absolutely stinks of a mix of B.O and off food. I used to go over to her home every day, mostly to check on her, but stopped as it absolutely stinks. She got a third animal that is shut in a tiny room and stinks, and the pets she had before are barely cleaned out and their messes are left to stink. The smell hits you when the door is opened, and the piles of stuff absolutely everywhere are awful. I probably sound awful, but I'm so horrified and upset to know it's gotten like this. I tried mentioning washing her clothes to her (as in that she washes them, which she used to love to do) but it was met with that she's trying her best. Her partner seems happy to live in this mess and still thinks getting the third pet was amazing despite not keeping the other two clean before they got the third one. He's now taken over the cooking but due to this doesn't see why he needs to help her clean. It's so depressing to see. I offered her multiple times to go over and help her with whatever she needs, and was there a couple of weeks ago cleaning all the mould off of her main windowsill but I stank, all in my hair and clothes, and wasn't there for more than two hours. With all of this, and her lack of concern about opening windows or cleaning out her pets, means usually she smells awful. I feel horrid writing this, but it's true. Her clothes and her smell and I find it hard being in shops with her a lot too, but it's too cold to sit outside for a drink and catch up these days. I've had our friends ask me to stay at my home instead of hers as they hate it too. I just don't want my newborn, that she will undoubtably want to hold a lot, to smell.

So my main question is, how can I help with this situation? And if I can't help, how can I stop my baby from smelling or her holding the baby? I honestly think this friend is wonderful otherwise and don't want this friendship to end, she truly can be the most amazing person. I'm just at a loss of what to do.

OP posts:
WTFpeople · 30/11/2018 20:34

This sounds horrible. I agree with pp phone RSPCA. My only concern here is even if they remove the rabbits, your friend will just go buy more. Sad Do you know if she's actually allowed pets in her tenancy?

Maybe someone else can answer this, but is it possible to report the boyfriend for fraud? If he's taking the carer's allowance, but the OP's friend is actually providing the care for the boyfriend surely that's fraud? Is the boyfriend abusive? (mentally, physically, emotionally, financially?) Phone social services tomorrow and report all of this to them. Your friend will be upset OP, but you are doing the right thing. She needs you to help her and the best way to do that is to report all of this.

floatingcarrot · 30/11/2018 20:50

The money goes into his account as she struggles with budgeting and spends without thinking, so he does make sure things sort of get paid. But then her PIP has to pay some bills too and she does manage that okay.

As for the rabbits. I doubt she'd go and buy more as she honestly loves these rabbits, and she's trying to bond the rabbits to be together as well as with her. Her tenancy allows them, yes. I'd love these bunnies but I have 5 pets already, and struggle to give them all the attention they deserve as it is, so it would be incredibly unfair to have more pets right now. Luckily the pets I have aren't rabbits and are mostly solitary.

OP posts:
Charmlight · 30/11/2018 21:35

Floatingcarrott I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to cause offence with the mention of ‘angst’.
Just meant for you to stop torturing yourself about it. You can’t sort it all out yourself. It needs a professional and someone who is used to dealing with theses situations. There’s only so much you can do with no powers behind you. You’re obviously a good person and a good friend to her. Pass it on to them.

Jux · 01/12/2018 00:40

Do you think her dp is financially abusing her? He does seem to be emotionally abusing her if he won't stop contacting her when she's out, guilt-tripping her to come home. You could have a chat with Women's Aid to gain some clarity and advice, as well as talking to SS and RSPCA.

Bringbackbertha · 01/12/2018 17:55

It sounds like you are getting advice for your friend.

In terms of your baby being held. I get it. I refused to let anyone hole my new baby when wearing perfume or aftershave and told them this before visiting. Everyone was fine with it. After about 4 weeks I let it slide and my baby stank if strong smelling perfume and I hated it. Had to bath them in proper wash to get it off them.

My advice would be that you don't want anyone holding baby for a few weeks and then you can say they are poorly etc. By that time your friend may have got help and support and hopefully cleaned herself up (I don't mean that in a nasty way)

Don't forget you may also be a lot more sensitive to smells at the moment. I couldn't stand to be anywhere near any animals as the smell made me wretch and anyone with BO was 100 times worse. I couldn't even stomach fabric softener smell until baby was born.

I hope your friend gets the help she needs and good luck with the birth of your baby

Nena1 · 01/12/2018 18:27

Your friend needs help with her debt.

I don't recommend cab as they usually give wrong information and will tell people to pay bailiffs etc

But if your friend is on the spectrum, cab maybe able to help get her debts written off.

poppy54321 · 02/12/2018 10:10

I was sensitive to smells while pregnant. My first baby and I hated strong smells, had trouble with strong perfume. She had eczema so constant bathing as a newborn wasn’t good. I wouldn’t have taken her somewhere smelly. The baby issue is like the straw that broke the camels back is all. If it can’t be resolved by then I would say I’d love you to come round and hold my baby as I want you to bond - but I need you to bathe, and wash your clothes and hair before you come. You are worried and you are helping her whilst putting up with this smell etc and you are worried this might change when baby arrives and your friend will suffer without you. And it will change, you will have much less time to help your friend and will be very much busy with your own baby who will come first, they just do. So yes do whatever you can to help now and put other support structures in place as people have said. Good luck, it sounds like a very difficult situation as she is very reliant on you.

ree070603 · 02/12/2018 12:53

No advice but just thought I'd comment and say that when my baby was born my MIL was a heavy smoker in her home and wore overbearing perfume and desperately loved holding the baby. The baby would stink afterwards and we'd have to have a bath after she'd gone and defumigate the house so I can see where you're coming from with the smell even though it's probably not harmful to the baby.

sahbear · 02/12/2018 15:30

Once you have your baby, you won't be able to provide her with the level of support you do now. If you can you need to flag it up now, but sometimes things have to get to crisis point before someone can see how bad it is. Remember sometimes you cannot help (especially when you have a small baby). You sound lovely BTW.

TwinMama6 · 06/12/2018 20:18

Have you ended up contacting anyone yet?

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