To think this is a heterosexual couple having PIV sex so it isn't particularly shocking or newsworthy that it resulted in a pregnancy?

[PimmsnLemonade]

Or is having short hair supposed to be a form of contraceptive now?

www.advocate.com/commentary/2018/11/13/im-pregnant-im-not-woman

They’re in shock because they weren’t planning on getting pregnant right now and don’t feel ready. I’ve had friends in a similar position, getting pregnant without planning to, despite having ‘PIV’ sex as noted here by others. I didn’t feel the need to mock my friends over how stupid they were.

When people believe they can change sex, this is one consequence. The female risks pregnancy.

We aren't talking about STD's or pregnancy any more, and that should concern people. Some STD's are much more resistant to antibiotics than they have been in the past.

Re being excited about ‘coming out to their child’ surely this wouldn’t be required as ‘being out’ would just be normal in their household? So wouldn’t specifically need to be told

Breastfeeding is going to blow her fucking mind 😂

Breastfeeding is going to blow her fucking mind

CHESTfeeding, thank you very much!

I'm pleased for her, having kids is fab. I do wonder why every time a transman gets pregnant it's news and I'm not sure articles like this, which paint people as victims becasue they 'identify' as non-binary, are helpful.

I think this from the article's comments summarises why some sections of the gay community find this narrative frustrating:

LGBT people are just tired of bored heterosexuals acting not only as if they're a part of the community, but the most marginalized members within it. This is a story of a heterosexual woman who married a heterosexual man and got pregnant that is being reframed as something it's not.

No anti-LGBT legislation would ever affect someone like her, nor would she ever have to worry about walking down the street being harassed for holding her husband's hand in public. She will never have to deal with the issues actual LGBT people face every day because her identites have no tangible connection to the real world. It's embarrassing for the advocate to showcase such a banal story as this.

How can you be both Agender and “trans masculine” ? I mean...the ridiculousness of this, isn’t this person embarassed to come out with such nonsense ? And what on earth is “femme” ? ( apart from a classic fragrance by Rochas, obv).

I don't know how a person can "identify as a man" and still have PIV sex

What is "identifying" as a man or woman?

Pansexual makes me think of this. m.youtube.com/watch?v=AIz_E9OY0Jc
Where are all the sensible people ? Are they hiding in a cave somewhere in sturdy shoes and hand knitted socks, drinking cocoa and waiting for their time to return ?

Don't understand this pansexual and agender/nonbinary/trans masculine, understand transexual but all this new gender stuff is so confusing if they identify masculine how come they have a husband and if they did not want a child why not use contaception

YABVU to describe them as a heterosexual couple just because it's a biological man and a biological woman

I know, right! What sort of world is it when people think that a hererosexual couple is two people, one of each sex? How thick can you be?

have whatever opinion you like on trans issues but he has every right to identify as pansexual.

I think the confusion comes from the fact that she (from the article she doesn't use he/him) is not currently in a relationship with a pan. The point is that she identifies as someone who is sexually attracted to kitchenware, and that is her absolute right- whatever her current relationship.

Tranpanman rights are human rights.

But I look down at my much fuller hips and much bigger belly and I just see femme, femme, femme. To be trans masculine, and to be pregnant, is a huge emotional undertaking when you don’t have a vast support system. My accepting friends and family are wonderful and they’ve done so much to encourage me. But there aren’t support groups for me, there aren’t articles or resources, there aren’t websites.

Honestly I feel really sorry for her. It sounds like she’s gone through the same “but I don’t want to be a GIRL, I want to be a PERSON” thing that so many of us do - but instead of finding comfort from solidarity she’s found comfort in deciding that it makes her different to the rest of us. So now she’s not got anywhere to turn to when she’s freaked out about her changing body with pregnancy because what can the rest of us tell her? After all, we must all feel ‘femme’, we couldn’t possibly relate to her.

There are support groups for people like you, love. They’re called “your fellow womb-having 50% of the population”. If you’re think your struggle to combine your understanding of yourself as a person with a patriarchal society sorting you into the ‘woman’ and ‘mother’ and ‘therefore irrelevant’ box is important enough to get a voice, it’s going to blow your mind when you hear about all the rest of us.

I know, right! What sort of world is it when people think that a hererosexual couple is two people, one of each sex? How thick can you be?

Heterosexual is to do with orientation, not a description of the sexes involved. Bisexuals and pansexuals do not change their orientation depending on who they in a relationship with.

I think the confusion comes from the fact that she (from the article she doesn't use he/him) is not currently in a relationship with a pan. The point is that she identifies as someone who is sexually attracted to kitchenware, and that is her absolute right- whatever her current relationship.

What a hilarious and original joke!!!! Deliberately misunderstanding a definition for humorous purposes. What a witty raconteur you must be.

Oh come on! This is a heterosexual relationship. They are different sexes. Hetero means different.
And ..well..pansexual. Snort. There are only two sexes, so bisexual covers it, but clearly isn’t special enough.

Jaysus Christ....did 'they' miss basic sex ed or something?

Heterosexual is to do with orientation, not a description of the sexes involved.

From collins:
A heterosexual relationship is a sexual relationship between a man and a woman.

You are complaining about people using the literal meaning of heterosexual couple correctly. No one is saying she isn't bisexual.

What a witty raconteur you must be

Aww come on. You missed the best bit:
Tranpanman rights are human rights.

To take your point seriously: people can, of course, identify as whatever they wish and make up new words as they choose. We are equally free to take the piss.

A biological female....with working biological female reproductive organs..gets pregnant by having sex with a biological male with working biological male reproductive organs...

Mind = blown

And the whole coming out to the child...give me a fucking break. Just attempt being a parent like the rest of the world and keep your narcissism at bay.

There are only two sexes, so bisexual covers it, but clearly isn’t special enough.

While some "pansexuals" are bisexual, I think a lot are, in old money, what you would have called heterosexual.

The author of this article is a biological woman who married a biological man. Husband then identified as a woman and author identified as non-binary. So it's now classed as a queer/pansexual relationship.

After divorcing the first husband, the (bio female) author married a biological man who, it seems, still identifies as being a man but the author doesn't identify as being a woman so that is also a queer/pansexual relationship.

We get a lot of these in the LGBT community these days - People who identify as queer or pansexual but whose relationships (in terms of the biology of the people involved) are all heterosexual.

I haven't clicked the link because I don't want to justify the story with traffic, but the quotes have made me eyeroll so hard I think one has popped out of my skull.

I concede that this is the dictionary definition and is therefore used correctly, but maybe acknowledge that pansexual is also in the same dictionary "having sexual preferences that are not limited by biological sex or gender."

They might not feel like a woman but they clearly are female and able to get pregnant. Because they are female and only females can give birth, as has been the case since humans first appeared. Biology is not negotiable. You're male or female. Fuck me.

She is a straight white woman appropriating minority’s struggles. I have massive sympathy with not having a strong sense of self, not knowing what being a parent means and doubting your ability to raise a child well...but we all do that I think.

My issue comes with this non-binary business. That categorises everyone else as ‘binary’ - I totally reject that label/assumption. I am who I am, with absolutely no apology. It’s a pity that these prescriptive labels are being accepted, I see it as no good thing.

I would be lying if I said I gave a single fuck one way or the other.

BeachtheButler
C’mon don’t hold back. Tell us what you really thing.

YABVU to describe them as a heterosexual couple just because it’s a biological man and biological woman

I’m having difficulty computing that sentence but the answer is 42, right?

Think ..... think.