To think this is a heterosexual couple having PIV sex so it isn't particularly shocking or newsworthy that it resulted in a pregnancy?

[PimmsnLemonade]

Or is having short hair supposed to be a form of contraceptive now?

www.advocate.com/commentary/2018/11/13/im-pregnant-im-not-woman

Looks like the old magical thinking didn't work again!

You might identify as a man (whatever that means) but it doesn't change biology. Female + Male - contraception = baby

I'm a "girly girl" in some aspects but more masculine in others. I earn more than my husband does, I'm a college instructor, and when it comes to things such as putting IKEA furniture together, I do it. I handle some of the finances and I fill out most of the paperwork for various things.

I'm still very much a woman.

As people become more and more self obsessed their children are left to fend for themselves and try to make sense of the madness around them......

The only hope is that the millenials kids are like the children of the baby boomers. Raised by self indulgent children we became the adults. Generation Z (?) will be fab!

Barking mad.

"I am so excited to meet my baby girl."

Baby [shouting from the womb] : "Excuse me, parent! Did you just assume my gender!"

I can totally see where they are coming from.
They have build an identity around NOT been a woman and then suddenly biology has caught with them and reminded them that they are indeed biologically female.

Tbh it wouod be hard to get your head around for anyone really.

But that’s also why I just cannot understand why someone who is identifying as let’s say a trans man would carry in having periods and PIV. The disconnection between the image they have about themselves and who they are biologically is too big.

Fellswoop I have to say I’ve had the same reaction!

Well I think it's a big deal psychologically for this person who obviously didn't think about getting pregnant at this stage. I think it's a big unfair to make mock of them and their feelings.about this.

I'm not much of a believer in gender but my concerns about males using female.spaces in the name of being trans or non binary doesn't mean I don't care about anyone's feelings.

Once the baby is here she won’t have time or the energy to come out with such shit! Like the rest of us she’ll spend months forgetting her own name and quite frankly will have no energy to argue over pronouns. Her hair will grow long because she can’t afford and hasn’t got time to have it cut! Once again stupidity is no barrier to pregnancy!

I can’t get my head around them being so non-conformist and yet getting married. Twice.

Yawn

What jumped out at me was they don’t want be a mother to their daughter they want to be a parent. What if the daughter specifically wants a mummy though? Maybe it doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things.

I can’t tell what’s satire and what isn’t these days.

Every single time she had piv sex with her husband she was denying her belief that she’s a man

To be fair, they don't think that they're a man - they identify as non-binary, which is neither male nor female, hence the they and their pronouns.

As someone else has said though, biology gives not two shiny shits what you identify as.

The end paragraph of the article sums it up to me. The thing they are most excited about is making their child validate their chosen identity. If they gave a damn about their child's wellbeing, that would not be something they were so excited about. It would be something carefully planned to make sure the child is emotionally able to cope with the idea, and it doesn't impact them in a negative way. Not, "wahay! Isn't this great? I'm not really your mum, I'm your parent/dad! Finally, you understand meeee!"

YABVU to describe them as a heterosexual couple just because it's a biological man and a biological woman - have whatever opinion you like on trans issues but he has every right to identify as pansexual.

Yes, two marriages and a pregnant with a daughter at the age of 26 is not terribly manly. Hope the daughter wants to be a daughter or they will risk repeating history.

The world has gone totally and utterly and completely bonkers!!! She’s a woman who likes to imitate blokes with her appearance 🤷‍♀️ She’s married to a bloke and they have sex, so she’s a butch looking woman in a normal heterosexual relationship. Poor child 😞

It's odd to look at your own pregnant body and think 'femme femme femme' rather than 'female female female' but pregnancy is a shock for most of us in some way so fair dos. I hope she finds that it's all a lot more straightforward than she fears.

@Deadbudgie doesn't take long to get a haircut.

What on earth have I just read. A woman, had sex with a man and she got pregnant. So what. I don't get why she's in such shock, she has a vagina and she had sex. I absolutely agree she can present herself as she wishes, but she's a woman who likes to present herself in a 'masculine' way. There's a bit of narcissism meets dysphoria here as she believes she's a special kind of gender for not confirming but lots of women don't conform in many ways. It's normal..

mocking isnt nice but going along with the poor woman's bizarre delusions is even worse.

It seems to me that people are so desperate to escape the boxes that society puts them in that they build their own boxes around themselves and end up just as trapped.

I can’t get my head around them being so non-conformist and yet getting married. Twice.

Me neither. Also, does she not think that "normal" woman also get pregnant by accident and have to come to terms with a changing life path?

Honestly, this is like someone showing you a room decorated in Magnolia and trying to convince you that it's avant garde interior design.

It's bog standard, boring old, normal old female life just wearing jeans and a short haircut. Get over yourself chicken, 100% of the human race are special in some way and 99.9% of the population couldn't give a rats ass about anyone else's unique specialness because they've got eversomuch going on in their own lives. Twas always ever thus.