To think sometimes you have no choice but to leave the house with a chickenpox child?

[StopTheSundayBlues]

What do you do if you have no friends or family to help out and you have more than one child?

Be confined to the house for over 2 weeks as one gets it after the other?

By no friends and family, I mean literally no one.

What if you need to go to the shop to feed your bloody children?

I know why chickenpox is so horrifically dangerous. But honestly, some people have no real choice but to leave the house, do they?

www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/chickenpox-vaccine-questions-answers/

See second question on the nhs website. I work in a hospital and our medical director explained it to me. Dd didn't get chicken pox until she was 10. I was planning to get her vaccinated before she left primary but obviously won't need to now.

Get your kids vaccinated? Easy

Genuine question - how do you do the school run for other siblings if you have nobody to ask to help you?

YANBU

In an ideal world you would keep an infectious child isolated the whole time, but we dont' live in that world so the best most of us can do is minimise exposure by avoiding non-essential outings (birthday parties, for example) and taking precautions where possible (easier in winter to wrap up a child; keeping away from others in the playground)

I packed mine in the trolley, they sat in it whilst I got emergency supplies, dettol-ed it afterwards. Online shopping otherwise.

I’m a single parent and when DD has CP in May I couldn’t stay in all the time, it was bad for my mental health to stay in. But I did go out at times of the day when I knew it would be quiet, and tried to stay away from people as much as I physically could.

And I do hope I didn’t put anyone in danger because of it but I’d have killed my self if I’d have had to stay in for 10 days that Mini had the spots before they crusted over.

Genuine question - how do you do the school run for other siblings if you have nobody to ask to help you?

I got the old double buggy out and packed the two poxed ones in it, put the covers up, and off we went to take the oldest two school.

I had to go to the GP with poxy child. I rang up and asked for advice as CP was a bad case. Pox in eyes were concerning me, so they told me to come in. I said I can’t being in an infectious child to the GP surgery. They said, well sometimes you have to. I was given a time when no other patients were in and the GP had his window wide open, but I still felt huge guilt at taking them out of the house.

@RollerJed the shingles vaccination only "helps reduce your risk of getting shingles" and is only supposed to be available to over 70s but under 80yos as not effective over the age of 80.

There's a worry that introducing chickenpox vaccination for all children could increase the risk of chickenpox andshinglesin adults

Not really scientific is it, especially when other countries are doing it successfully.

@mydcaremarvel did you not get him vaccinated? If not then why are others risking him catching it being any more selfish than you risking him catching it by not paying for the vaccination?
If you didn't realise how serious it can be and that was your reason not to then why do you expect others to be more informed than you were?

What do you do if you have no friends or family to help out and you have more than one child?

I appreciate your predicament and I'm wondering what your neighbours would have to be like to refuse to go and get some shopping in for you once you'd explained your predicament and concerns (with a note through the door if need be).

m0ther my dp are under 70 and received the vaccination.

Is that according to the NHS as well?

@m0therofdragons this is not correct. Exposure to chickenpox protects adults WHO HAD chickenpox from shingles. So my child having chickenpox protects other adults from getting shingles. Vaccinating kids means more adults would get shingles.
There is a shingles vaccin, so I don’t see why my child having a (potentially quite dangerous and definitely very uncomfortable ) illness should protect somebody who could just get themselves vaccinated. So my kids are vaccinated.

got the old double buggy out and packed the two poxed ones in it, put the covers up, and off we went to take the oldest two school.

My dc were 10 and two 6yos. Not sure buggy would work plus it's a long time since I've owned one.

DS2 came out with chicken pox mid supermarket shop. No spots at the start a face full at the end. Not sure I could do much about that.

I agree my 8 year old had it 3 weeks ago, fairly easy to stay at home. My 18 month DS now has it and I have nobody to do the school run for 8 year old so have had to take him out. In his buggy and lurking at the back of the playground. He's going stir crazy

Both my dcs have had CP (different years)
We didn’t go out with Dc1 as Dc2 wasn’t at school.
We did go out when Dc2 had it because I had to take Dc1 to school.

As far as I know, Dc2 didn’t give it to anyone around him.
Dc1 infected more or less every single of the children at nursery. Because he was a carrier and infectious much BEFORE the spots appeared.

In Canada, they reckons that the phase that is really infectious is the one before the spots appear. They actually dint have an issue with children been out and about once the spots are out.
Food for thought.

Vaccination isn't given in the U.K. as there's evidence that those who've had the vaccine are more likely to have shingles.

Bollocks. There no "evidence" as the vaccine hasn't been around long enough.

Can you give an example of a factor which is more important than not causing someone’s death?

^This

It’s about time the nhs vaccinated for chickenpox. It can have nasty complications for the child and is dangerous for many other people to catch.

^Agree

My kids were vaccinated. 18 months later I was in a position where I was immune-compromised.

Vaccinate your kids.

'Of course you occasionally need to go out and... Breaking news... It's fine!!'

Yeah fine for the person going out, not so fine for the pregnant woman or elderly person they come into contact with.

@RollerJed all on NHS website. I'm not just inventing stuff.

It says

Shingles vaccination
A shingles vaccine is available on the NHS for people in their 70s. It helps reduce your risk of getting shingles.
If you get shingles after being vaccinated, the symptoms can be much milder.
Ask your GP surgery if you can get the vaccine on the NHS.
Find out more about who can have the shingles vaccine.

Worst case scenario...

Single mum stuck at home with sick children, needs formula milk, bank account empty, only has cash available.

Surely even MN agrees on that situation the chicken pox infected children need to leave the house?

My GP said the NHS were bringing out the chicken pox vaccine in line with mmr but then anti vax kicked off & numbers of kids getting vaccinated fell so it was pushed back.

& now there’s no money.

DS has had it three bloody times. All when DH was working away and I had older DD to get to school, plus working for an NHS trust with only 5 days special leave policy. Nightmare. Left the poxed DS in the car whilst dropping DD at school. Shopping was pre-internet delivery thing, so used local village shop and left poxed DS in car while I ran in and out.

Anecdotally, I had my son vaccinated age 3 against chickenpox while we were abroad. Back in UK, When he was 10, he came down with shingles.

The nurse told me in her 30 year career, she had never seen a child with shingles. First thing she asked was whether he had been vaccinated against CP. She thought there was some relation.

As per your question OP, sometimes it's unavoidable. Just try to make it quick and avoid as many people as possible