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To think my doctor should take my mirena out when asked???

244 replies

ScienceIsTruth · 26/11/2018 16:13

Just that really.

Went to see consultant today as still bleeding constantly 2 years after having mirena fitted for heavy periods, although not as heavily.

Asked them to remove it as it's not really helping and the side effects (no libido, etc) are really getting me down, and they've basically refused.

They want to try me on another hormonal medication for 6 months first, whilst keeping the mirena in (because I had trouble when it was put in!).
But there's a waiting list for this medication as it's an injection they have to do, and I'm looking at least an 8 week wait.

OP posts:
Blacktoffeecat · 26/11/2018 17:32

YANBU
I had my Mirena out because i has terrible anxiety. All the ASR’s denied it could cause this, but took it out anyway because I said that’s what I wanted. I had a GA for it putting in.

dontalltalkatonce · 26/11/2018 17:32

Just been in gp (with dd, unrelated to this but running so late I read every leaflet in the place) the rule in my ccg is that long term contraception requires a 3 year commitment and it will only be removed on the nhs if you have medical issues and a dr says it must be removed,

That's tantamount to force. That is unfuckingbelievable! No way a man would be expected to agree to that.

dontalltalkatonce · 26/11/2018 17:35

If you’re telling them what to do. They will look at your symptoms, listen to you’re concerns and act in you’re best interests.

You do realise that the law states that actually, YOU, the person, are the determiner of what's in your best interests except in cases of unsound mind or unconsciousness or similar emergencies Hmm.

And your is the possessive, not you're.

AutumnCrow · 26/11/2018 17:36

Implants go wrong, robert.

Missingstreetlife · 26/11/2018 17:38

Consent is the issue

AutumnCrow · 26/11/2018 17:39

Dangerous implants and dangerous processes - reported today:

www.theguardian.com/society/2018/nov/26/implant-files-safety-review-chair-regulations-not-fit-for-use

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 26/11/2018 17:47

What’s the point in going to a doctor then? If you’re telling them what to do. They will look at your symptoms, listen to you’re concerns and act in you’re best interests. They are medically trained

Nonsense. My body, my decision.

This thread, and the one about pregnant women being refused various medicines and food, make for very upsetting reading.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 26/11/2018 17:52

Robert is probably a big cheerleader for vaginal mesh as well.

Assuming your username refelcts your sex Robert you have NO business on this thread telling women that they do not know their own minds and bodies and should do as they are told.

OP - good advice on here. I think it's a cost thing as well.I was advised to have a Mirena after the kids and so said OK. Later I had issues with it and they sent me to a consultant - the strings had gone "awol" - and he had a rummage and couldn't see how he was going to get it out. He said wow your cervix is tight as a drum how did you have your kids, I said 2 CS never been in labour. He said well this must have been incredibly difficult and painful to get in. Yes, it was. So why the fuck did they promote it to me? When the woman couldn't get it in easily she was going on at me like it was my fault :/ and afterwards she said I expect you feel very unwell now you might faint sit here for a bit :/

Anyway in the end I had to have a GA to have it out as the strings were gone etc

My adverse symptoms were permnant low grade thrush, mood issues , and some other stuff - it was all quite subtle and hard ot say yes it'd definitely the coil BUT it all got better when they took it out.

I am very very down on these long term "solutions" especially for teens where there can be massive issues and they will not remove the bloody things.

OP - hope you find a way to get rid.

Robert - quite frankly - fuck off

NothingOnTellyAgain · 26/11/2018 17:55

lol @ thinking the medical profession always acts in your best interests

Easy to think that if you're a bloke or are a woman who has not had issues relating to pregnancy childbrith contraception mental health gynae issues. Probably otehr stuff as well. Like all the women who die of heart problems becasue the symptoms for heart attack are different for men and women and the men's ones are known and so women don't get the right treatment. Yes doc knows best shut up you silly women.

dontticklethetoad · 26/11/2018 18:04

hamabr86 interesting you say you could feel it. I repeatedly complained that the week preceding my period was agony, and that if I lay on my front it felt like I was lying on something. "impossible!" they said. Funny that it should completely resolve once it was removed.

goingonabearhunt1 · 26/11/2018 18:15

I will never have a coil for this reason. It scares me that I'm reliant on a doctor to agree to remove it as I've had issues with HCPs not listening to me before.

HelenaDove · 26/11/2018 18:35

I had the early implant Norplant in the mid 90s That was one where contraceptive function lasted for 5 years.

After 3 years i had to have it removed at the FP clinic.

The fact that they will only remove your Mirena if you say you want a baby shows how they really see women!

HelenaDove · 26/11/2018 18:36

@Missingstreetlife I had no idea about that I was on Depo for five years from my early to mid thirties.

MimsyBorogroves · 26/11/2018 18:55

Mine expired nearly 2 years ago. It's not classed as an emergency to remove it, so they won't just fit me in. I work in a school, so can only do late night appointments or school hols, and there is never anything when I can get there.

I got surgically sterilised last month and asked for them to remove it whilst I was under GA. They forgot.

I just want the fucking thing out. It's not even a contraceptive any more, it just makes me fat and not bothered about sex.

agentdaisy · 26/11/2018 18:57

This is exactly why I refused to have a mirena or the implant when my gp kept pushing it. I have friends that have had a mirena - one loves it, two hated it but couldn't get anyone to take it out or afford to go private, and one who had to have scans and a GA to get it out as it had moved and couldn't be found.

I won't have any contraception that means I need to rely on someone else to get it out of my body. I had to push my gp to change my pill 3 times till I found one that didn't make me a bleeding, hormonal mess every day. I'm not going to risk having side effects like that for years.

fizzthecat1 · 26/11/2018 19:01

OP the way they are behaving is disgusting. I know they are incentivised financially to put in the Mirena so I think maybe it effects their pay packet if they take one out.
I'd go in again and refuse to leave until it's been removed, threaten to launch an official complaint again. When mine was removed I went to a sexual health clinic (not sure what they're officially called) and they removed it without hesitating so maybe try one of those? I would also make a complaint about them as if they're doing this to you they're doing it to other people too.

HelenaDove · 26/11/2018 19:05

The last contraception i was ever on was the Mini Pill The FP clinic nurse i saw was actually DISsuading women from having Depo or Mirena

i remember her saying "the thing with a Pill is if it doesnt agree with you you can just stop taking it and your body will be back to normal in 24 to 48 hours.

after i stopped Depo it took nine months for my period to return.

megletthesecond · 26/11/2018 19:08

Yanbu.
No one should have to suffer medical implants in them making themselves ill. Boils my piss it does.

JacquesHammer · 26/11/2018 19:12

YANBU.

You absolutely should have body autonomy.

Unfortunately the NHS is at heart a deeply misogynistic organisation that doesn’t give women the autonomy they should have.

It’s outrageous.

CharlieandRabbit · 26/11/2018 19:13

@MimsyBorogroves you can still go off sick for a couple of days even if you work in a school.

fizzthecat1 · 26/11/2018 19:16

OP I also want to add that my health deteriorated so badly on the coil that I'm still suffering with some of the effects years after it was taken out. This is your health you're talking about. You need to treat this as an EMERGENCY and get the thing taken out of you.

Do not leave till they take it out, or try a sexual health clinic, ask how you can officially complain etc.

Governoress86 · 26/11/2018 19:26

I had the exact same thing happen to me with the nexplanon implant.

I was bleeding constantly, weight gain, mood swings, made my mental health worse, was suicidal, and my doctor kept refusing to take it out saying five it a bit longer it will settle down. When it didn't they kept trying to get me to try additional medication on top of the implant.

In the end I went to my sexula health clinic where they removed it without hesitation., And the bleeding instantly stopped and went back to normal periods.

I don't think it is right that doctors ignore what you want and try and force you to keep it in. I definitely would not recommend the implant.

fizzthecat1 · 26/11/2018 19:30

I don't think it is right that doctors ignore what you want and try and force you to keep it in. I definitely would not recommend the implant

They are incentivised financially to put it in, they get paid every time they put one in, so I'm guessing the might lose financially if they take one out. That's why they can be quite pushy recommending them.

Governoress86 · 26/11/2018 19:33

I just don't agree to the fact that I had to keep it in for nearly 3 years suffering with the side effects that I had just so they could pocket the money, it's disgraceful!

Worsethingshappen · 26/11/2018 19:34

I wonder if there is a misunderstanding here? It seems that your original concern was heavy periods, which have improved but not enough for you to want to put up with the side effects you have? It sounds like your symptoms have been difficult to get under control and perhaps the consultant thinks that trying this additional medication alongside the coil is the best next options for both reducing your bleeding and improving the side effects?
If you take out the mirena now there might not be many useful options left, apart from surgery, which any good doctor would only want if other less risky options failed.