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My sister financially benefitting from our parents AGAIN.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 08:40

There are 13 months between me and my sister so we were very close growing up together and we are still close now, I love her and she’s one of my favourite people to be around.

Growing up we were very different, I was the typical ‘good sensible girl’ whereas she was more the type who took each day as it came and having fun was her main focus. At the time, I was envious of her character and spirit and wished I was more like her.

I did well at school, went to college, then university and have a professional job, whereas she didn’t really try at school, dropped out of two college courses and eventually ended up in a job that our neighbour found for her.

Fast forward to now: we’re in our late 30s and still very close. We both have two children although she is no longer with the father as he turned out to be a complete shit. He’s active in the children’s lives though and he provides well for them financially and helps my sister out too in ways he isn’t obliged to. I don’t particularly like the man but I can’t criticise him for the way he still provides for the children and the things he does to help my sister.

In our teenage years and through our 20’s my sister was frequently financially helped out by our parents because “she didn’t have a well paying job” and they paid out a lot for her. They paid for things to be done around her house (luxuries as opposed to necessities), paid her phone bills and store cards, paid for things for the children and paid for her driving lessons too when she was in her mid 20’s.

At the same time as they were paying for her driving lessons I was having to pay for my own lessons even though I was a student and they were charging me rent, compared to her being in full time employment and not even living in the family home anymore.

I could list lots of ways my sister has financially benefited from our parents over the last 10-15 years and although there has always been potential for resentment because of how differently we were treated I never felt it, or if I did I have no recollection of it and it didn’t impact on my relationship with my sister.

Fast forward to the last 12 months or so and my sister started going out with her friends a lot more, going out frequently for meals and drinks, going away for weekends, having new clothes etc and at the time I thought nothing of it. I was just glad to see her enjoying herself now her children are older (10 and 14) and that she was getting her life back as it were.

Recently me and DH have put ourselves out quite significantly in terms of finances in order to do something to benefit her children in order to allow them to experience something they’d never be able to if me and DH didn’t pay for it. Initially we had spoken about her paying 10% of the cost but after thinking about it I told my sister that no financial contribution was necessary as I was happy to treat my nieces and that I knew every pound counts to her and that even a small contribution would be difficult for her. She said thanks, she appreciated it and that was the end of the discussion.

Anyhow - I found out a few days ago that for the last 12 months my parents have been giving her £200 every month “just in case she needs it” and it’s actually really pissed me off. Our parents are divorced and they each give her £100.

I now feel a little put out that she so readily accepted our offer not to contribute to what we are doing for her children (which is costing us nearly £1k) when she’s getting £200 each month from our parents that she doesn’t actually need.

They (particularly my mom) also give her children money quite frequently whereas mine don’t get anything.

Inside I feel like the “special treatment” of her is still going on after all these years and I think that throughout her life it’s paid off that she didn’t get a good job because my parents have paid out so much for her and still do. I’m also in disbelief that at our age she is still taking money from our parents because as adults shouldn’t we be taking responsibility for ourselves?

I haven’t told my sister that I know about our parents giving her money each month and my parents don’t know that I know either. I won’t say anything to either of them though because it won’t serve any purpose. I only found out due my mom’s brother accidentally letting it slip when he asked me how I was spending my £200 each month as he had assumed my parents were doing it for both of us.

Im just venting. I know it’s my parents choice how they spend their money but after watching them pay out for so much for her over the last two decades this has been a bit of a blow to know they’re still doing it.

I was talking to DH about it and in my frustration I said that I wished I’d made her life choices instead of my own as maybe then my parents would have paid my way in life too and funded my lifestyle choices. I didn’t mean it, I just said it in frustration. I don’t want money from my parents, I wouldn’t accept it if they offered, but I feel a bit hurt that again my sister is getting money from them for no real reason whereas their generosity wasn’t even offered to me.

AIBU to feel a bit pissed off? Has anyone else been in a similar position and found ways to deal with it?

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QueenofmyPrinces · 07/12/2018 21:18

Be prepared for absolute madness over Christmas. She may do something like give you a teabag and your sister a new car.

I’m sorry but this really made me laugh Grin Grin

My mum would have to pay out for more driving lessons first Grin

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Tinkobell · 08/12/2018 13:35

OP - at Christmas lavish your father with lots of stuff and treats. Give your mum something small, perhaps a tube of hand cream........See how she likes being on the receiving end.

madmum5811 · 08/12/2018 17:27

Tinkobell, I do not think that is a good idea.

QueenofmyPrinces · 08/12/2018 19:06

OP - at Christmas lavish your father with lots of stuff and treats....

And have my mum think I’ve got money to burn? (Like she already thinks) Grin

But on a serious note, we’re both supposed to be going to our mum’s for lunch on Christmas Day and I’m dreading it. I haven’t heard from her since our phone call yesterday and I have a feeling that I won’t unless I make the first move.

How can things have got this crazy Sad

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madmum5811 · 08/12/2018 19:14

But you did make the first move, you spoke to her on Friday, which you say did not go well. I really would let it be for now. She is hurting, from her point of view her world has been turned upside down. You and your sister have in her mind been happy with the arrangements for years and years. You have now in her mind done a complete u turn with your fathers blessing.

You may have to make alternative arrangements for Xmas this year.

sockunicorn · 08/12/2018 22:35

i really wouldnt be going on christmas day OP. dont give her the power. You just spend a lovely day with your own little family and leave her to her own devices.

RandomMess · 08/12/2018 22:54

I would discuss Christmas with your sister and work out what you would like to do. Present a united front!

Mix56 · 09/12/2018 08:59

Yes, maybe you should suggest that Xmas lunch is best cancelled, in view of her anger

QueenofmyPrinces · 09/12/2018 09:35

But then she’d be on her own and no matter what has gone on I don’t think she deserves that... Sad

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madmum5811 · 09/12/2018 12:51

Then I suggest you do your own xmas dinner and invite her.

RandomMess · 09/12/2018 13:09

Perhaps your DSIS would like to host - put herself on an adult footing (you could do it as a joint effort)

I would expect your Mum to better behaved as a guest?

Chamomileteaplease · 09/12/2018 14:37

Not sure if this is a tangent, but having read the whole thread today, I am wondering if this change in dynamic in all your relationships will enable your sister to perhaps take a fresh look at her life. You say she is in her thirties, that's not too late to train for a more satisfying and better paid job.

If she's interested that is. Finally become truly independent.

AcrossthePond55 · 09/12/2018 15:36

I think Random’s suggestion of a joint Xmas at DSis’ is perfect. It will cement your new relationship as ‘equals’ and also indicate to your mum that the two of you have gotten past this and she needs to, too.

The only question is the likelihood that Mum will make things unpleasant. It would be easier to ‘escape’ if you’re all at hers.

QueenofmyPrinces · 23/12/2018 10:22

I just wanted to come and update for all the people who were following the thread and giving me lots of support and advice.

Things have taken a bit of a turn for the worse in that my mom seems to have written us both off.

Me and my sister talked about Christmas at hers and she loved the idea. So she phoned our mom to discuss it and our mom hit the roof and said it was just another way for us to spite her as we knew how much her hosting a family Christmas meant to her etc etc

My sister explained it wasn’t to spite her at all and that she had just wanted to do something nice to try and iron out the issues and also prove that she was adult enough to do something without needing our parents help.

Our mom didn’t want to hear it though and said we were ganging up on her, saying we were painting her as the bad guy and that we were creating a divide in the family etc. My sister tried to explain it was just an idea she’d had, that it wasn’t set in stone and she’d just wanted to chat about it to see what our mom thought about it.

My mom had then said something about how she and I (me and my sister) were obviously talking behind her back and so we should just do whatever we wanted for Christmas and just leave her out of it.

The conversation really upset my sister.

This happened about a week ago and neither of us have spoken to our mom since as she won’t answer her phone.

As it stands I’m going to my sister’s for Christmas (with my husband and sons obviously) and we’re just going to try and make the best out of a bad situation.

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RandomMess · 23/12/2018 10:31

SadSadSadSadSadSadSadSad

I hope you and DSIS know you have done nothing wrong. You both the dynamic to shift to a healthier place and your Mum is spitting he dummy out and having a tantrum because she is no longer master puppeteer pulling the strings and being in control.

Yulebealrite · 23/12/2018 10:58

She's lost her control and she's reacting unreasonably. Don't pander to her, just carry on acting reasonably and normally and then she'll either come round or she won't. That is her choice. You don't want to get back to a relationship that is severely dysfunctional so you need to set clear boundaries.

Perhaps just send a card. "Sorry you are upset mum. Just remember we love you loads. We'd love to see you when you are ready"

CraftyYankee · 23/12/2018 11:23

While it's a shame that your mother is behaving like this, it's wonderful that you and your sister are growing stronger together.

QueenofmyPrinces · 23/12/2018 11:39

Perhaps just send a card. "Sorry you are upset mum. Just remember we love you loads. We'd love to see you when you are ready"

This would tip her over the edge I think. Me and my sister have never been told by her that she loves us. It’s very, very rare she even writes the word ‘love’ in birthday and Christmas cards etc. She usually just ends them with “mom”. The last memory I have of her hugging me was when I was about 6 or 7 and it would have been the same for my sister too. Our mom does not say or show any kind of love or affection.

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Yulebealrite · 23/12/2018 11:55

Perhaps. "Sorry you are upset mum. This is hurting us all. We'd love to hear from you and put this all behind us. Contact us when you are ready."

She sounds extremely emotionally stunted.

RandomMess · 23/12/2018 13:50

Your Mum is more toxic the more you write...

Not sure your DM is capable of love tbh Thanks

RandomMess · 23/12/2018 13:50

I think she has tried to put a

RandomMess · 23/12/2018 13:51

Dividing wedge between you and DSIS because she knows you 2 love each other and she's jealous Sad

AcrossthePond55 · 23/12/2018 14:14

Your mum is an adult, even if she's acting like a child. She can just take the consequences of her own actions!

Let Mum stew. Her histrionics are only intended to bring you to heel anyway. You and DSis celebrate together. Enjoy your new-found honesty and your new relationship as equals. I have a feeling that the two of you will realize that your previous family Xmases with your mum weren't all that joyful anyway.

QueenofmyPrinces · 23/12/2018 15:14

.....putting a dividing wedge between you and DSIS because she knows you 2 love each other and she's jealous...

I do wonder that sometimes because of the bad relationship she had with her own sister.

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Tistheseason17 · 23/12/2018 15:40

The only person losing here is your DM. And I am pleased you can salvage your relationship with your sister. Your latest update confirms her jealousy over your sisterly relationship.

Sad, really, as I have no relationship with my sister and I really want my 2 girls to get on - they will only have each other after their Dad and I pop our clogs!

Don't be sad - move onward and upward!

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