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My sister financially benefitting from our parents AGAIN.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 08:40

There are 13 months between me and my sister so we were very close growing up together and we are still close now, I love her and she’s one of my favourite people to be around.

Growing up we were very different, I was the typical ‘good sensible girl’ whereas she was more the type who took each day as it came and having fun was her main focus. At the time, I was envious of her character and spirit and wished I was more like her.

I did well at school, went to college, then university and have a professional job, whereas she didn’t really try at school, dropped out of two college courses and eventually ended up in a job that our neighbour found for her.

Fast forward to now: we’re in our late 30s and still very close. We both have two children although she is no longer with the father as he turned out to be a complete shit. He’s active in the children’s lives though and he provides well for them financially and helps my sister out too in ways he isn’t obliged to. I don’t particularly like the man but I can’t criticise him for the way he still provides for the children and the things he does to help my sister.

In our teenage years and through our 20’s my sister was frequently financially helped out by our parents because “she didn’t have a well paying job” and they paid out a lot for her. They paid for things to be done around her house (luxuries as opposed to necessities), paid her phone bills and store cards, paid for things for the children and paid for her driving lessons too when she was in her mid 20’s.

At the same time as they were paying for her driving lessons I was having to pay for my own lessons even though I was a student and they were charging me rent, compared to her being in full time employment and not even living in the family home anymore.

I could list lots of ways my sister has financially benefited from our parents over the last 10-15 years and although there has always been potential for resentment because of how differently we were treated I never felt it, or if I did I have no recollection of it and it didn’t impact on my relationship with my sister.

Fast forward to the last 12 months or so and my sister started going out with her friends a lot more, going out frequently for meals and drinks, going away for weekends, having new clothes etc and at the time I thought nothing of it. I was just glad to see her enjoying herself now her children are older (10 and 14) and that she was getting her life back as it were.

Recently me and DH have put ourselves out quite significantly in terms of finances in order to do something to benefit her children in order to allow them to experience something they’d never be able to if me and DH didn’t pay for it. Initially we had spoken about her paying 10% of the cost but after thinking about it I told my sister that no financial contribution was necessary as I was happy to treat my nieces and that I knew every pound counts to her and that even a small contribution would be difficult for her. She said thanks, she appreciated it and that was the end of the discussion.

Anyhow - I found out a few days ago that for the last 12 months my parents have been giving her £200 every month “just in case she needs it” and it’s actually really pissed me off. Our parents are divorced and they each give her £100.

I now feel a little put out that she so readily accepted our offer not to contribute to what we are doing for her children (which is costing us nearly £1k) when she’s getting £200 each month from our parents that she doesn’t actually need.

They (particularly my mom) also give her children money quite frequently whereas mine don’t get anything.

Inside I feel like the “special treatment” of her is still going on after all these years and I think that throughout her life it’s paid off that she didn’t get a good job because my parents have paid out so much for her and still do. I’m also in disbelief that at our age she is still taking money from our parents because as adults shouldn’t we be taking responsibility for ourselves?

I haven’t told my sister that I know about our parents giving her money each month and my parents don’t know that I know either. I won’t say anything to either of them though because it won’t serve any purpose. I only found out due my mom’s brother accidentally letting it slip when he asked me how I was spending my £200 each month as he had assumed my parents were doing it for both of us.

Im just venting. I know it’s my parents choice how they spend their money but after watching them pay out for so much for her over the last two decades this has been a bit of a blow to know they’re still doing it.

I was talking to DH about it and in my frustration I said that I wished I’d made her life choices instead of my own as maybe then my parents would have paid my way in life too and funded my lifestyle choices. I didn’t mean it, I just said it in frustration. I don’t want money from my parents, I wouldn’t accept it if they offered, but I feel a bit hurt that again my sister is getting money from them for no real reason whereas their generosity wasn’t even offered to me.

AIBU to feel a bit pissed off? Has anyone else been in a similar position and found ways to deal with it?

OP posts:
Juju65 · 27/11/2018 19:13

Your sister has come to depend on all this additional help, and would probably feel quite affronted if anyone pointed this out to her.
I, completely understand your frustration surrounding the support your sister gets, and probably takes for granted. There is one in every family- somewhere.
You need to be happy in your own life and achievements, and be proud of your evident care and kindness, toward your sister and her children. I’m sure they”ll remember the aunt who gave them an experience, they otherwise wouldn’t have had.
You sound like a lovely sister.

DishingOutDone · 27/11/2018 19:16

I'm so sad reading this thread; my girls are mid to late teens but I can see where this dynamic is in danger of being played out in our family. Difference is, I saw this coming a while back and I hope I have/can pre-empt it. I have two lovely young women, but one is very academic and works hard, was always the "good girl" growing up; the other has always been Mercurial and sometimes just downright selfish. Anything her sister gets she wants; the largest bit of cake, if her sister has new shoes she has to have two pairs or one pair that is double the cost; and always my time. When I was cuddling the girls as toddlers it was always "MY TURN!" from the more feisty one. For a good few years, the "good girl" became sad and resentful and you know what, I don't blame her AND it was entirely my fault. Just like this is your mum's fault. Only the difference is when I realised I was angry with myself and disappointed how I hadn't realised.

RedDogsBeg · 27/11/2018 19:19

Just remember OP it is not you that has soured the relationship between you it is your parents and sister who have done so by being underhand, deceptive and unfair.

chumbelina28 · 27/11/2018 19:31

on all these threads I am really bothered about is
What the heck does AIBU really mean please could someone please tell me! Thank you!!!

onegiftedgal · 27/11/2018 19:32

Common theme here it seems. I'm also, if you like the 'golden child' as I worked hard at school and jobs etc whereas my 2 sisters didn't get on at school or work and have had constant financial help from my parents to buy their homes etc. I do actually resent them and now distance myself from the family because I think life is too short. If people can do these sort of things then there is no excuse - they do not consider your feelings, end of.
We now live in a really grand house in the country because we have worked hard for years and moved property to gain the equity. We have no help with our children or any other help in fact yet my sisters think that I am 'lucky' to live in such a house! It hasn't been handed to me on a plate!

Tistheseason17 · 27/11/2018 19:33

I'm disgusted by your DP's behaviour.

"she didn't have the same opportunities"

YES SHE DID.

I would class them as life choices rather than opportunities. She chose not to study and work hard - you did. If she really wanted to she could go back and study.

I had enabling parents and a selfish older sister. She did go back and study and they funded her entire university period. Me? When I moved back in for 2 weeks as my new house needed central heating and new windows, I was paying storage and the mortgage, yet.... I was charged rent for the 2 weeks and my plumber Dad charged me full whack to do the work. TBF to my DF, he was under FOG and since divorce we have an amazing relationship.

So, when I got married, Dsis, pipes up, "whatever you give Tis you have to give to me"

Just face it some people are just super greedy. With all the money your DSis is getting from various sources I suspect she has a better net income than you.

I would be asking your DF why he gave up time for your sister and not you?? That is bang out of order... in fact it all is. This makes me furious.

It's your life and from your last response this will continue for the next 20 plus years - don't be surprised when your DPs die and you find there is another later will leaving you nothing because - "she needs it more than you". And, I can guarantee your children will get less as your parents will see that you can afford it.

Personally, I'd detach - they clearly don't love you equally.

Beeziekn33ze · 27/11/2018 19:35

You've been treated as second best and deceived, by the very people who should have been showing you love and care. Thoughtless and so hurtful.
Just hoping you can switch this grubby business off and have a great holiday with DH, DC, and your nieces. Then concentrate on your own life and keep a little distance.

Tiaptia85 · 27/11/2018 19:36

Oh the story of my life!!

Michellelovesizzy · 27/11/2018 19:37

So she dosent havent a great job 2 kids a
Single mum on her own and u r mum and dad r giving her £200 so £50 a week cant c how she really is livin the high life from that you sound like you have money as u can give away £1k.... sounds like u dont mind ur sister to have enough to get buy in life but not enjoye herself

Michellelovesizzy · 27/11/2018 19:39

If ur happy in ur life why does if matter whats going on in your sisters

moogoom · 27/11/2018 19:40

Depressingly similar situation here. Although my story ended when my mother left my sister all the inheritance due to me not siding with her after her divorce

Hellsbells35 · 27/11/2018 19:49

Woah you are over thinking this! No one has done this to hurt you. It’s not about you. They all love you, let them be. There is no deceit at all. Just let it go, and ignore it. It’s not a reflection of you and would be a shame to ruin relationships over.

chickenloverwoman · 27/11/2018 19:53

Wow lots of new people who really need to RTFT!

QueenofmyPrinces · 27/11/2018 20:00

My mom has just phoned me because she’s had my sister on the phone, all upset because she thinks I’m angry with her etc. My mom then started telling me I was being ridiculous and she can’t believe how much of an issue I’m turning it in to.

I asked her why if it wasn’t an “issue” then why was everyone in cahoots to keep it a secret from me? That if they felt there was nothing wrong or unfair about what was happening then why was it hidden from me?

She said they’d agreed to keep it quiet because my sister was apparently embarrassed that she needed to take money of them in order to manage.

My parents aren’t on Facebook so they don’t see all the photos she puts up of her new found social life and all the trips and weekends away she goes on with the money she needs to be given in order to “manage”. I actually felt a bit sorry for my mom when she said that because she and my dad are being taken for a right ride.

I told mom that I’d spent the last 20 years watching them favour my sister so this latest regular financial handout is just the last in a long line. I told her I’m not bothered was she and her dad do with their money but that what I am bothered by is the fact they’ve treated her differently to me since we were teenagers and that the fact they’ve been giving her money behind my back makes me feel pretty shit. I said it’s bought back all those feelings of, “why does she matter but I don’t?”

I started ranting when I shouldn’t have really, I don’t think it’s done me any favours but I just felt so angry.

I had calmed down by the end of the phone call though and I told her that she and my dad can do whatever they like with their money but her constant denial that she’d ever treated us differently was something I wasn’t interested in hearing.

I said that I was upset with my sister because I never ever thought she would deceive me or hide things from me. We’ve always been so close, well at least I thought we had been. One of the main things I’m upset about is having to acknowledge the possibility that the relationship I thought I had with my sister wasn’t real.

OP posts:
Holidayshopping · 27/11/2018 20:01

What did your mum say in response to you?

celticprincess · 27/11/2018 20:06

I struggle to see how parents favour one over the other. I’m in a slightly opposite situation. I’m divorced with children and now work part time and really struggle. My sister has a part time job so she has something to do as her husband earns very well. They don’t struggle, over pay their mortgage, afford luxury holidays etc. Anyway, my mum helps me out with paying for a class for my children to attend but she also does this for my sister. She frequently buys for my children but also tries to spend equally ony sister’s children. She saves money for my children and my niece. She knows at the end of the day I need the help and I totally feel awful for taking the help but she’d never see us without. At one point i thought she was only helping me out and I did tell her i felt bad and that i worried my sister would be upset about it and that is how I found out she gives her similar. On the other hand my dad refuses point blank to spend a single penny on me. My kids get a selection box at Xmas. His reason is that he can’t help me out without giving my sister the same and she doesn’t need it so no one gets it! I go for lunch with my mum and she pays, refuses to let me. I go out for lunch with my dad and I pay for me and my kids. He pays his own. He complains I see my mum more. Basically I can’t afford to see him (must only see him at food places due to his mental health issues preventing me entering his house). We can drop in on my mum when ever we want, we do, kids are always offered food and drink. We can never drop in on my dad. But at the end of the day both my parents treat us both the same!

GreenTulips · 27/11/2018 20:06

You called her out on her behaviour and she didn't like it.

Did you not tell her your sis is living the life of Riley? On her hard earner cash? And not essentials?

RedDogsBeg · 27/11/2018 20:10

She said they’d agreed to keep it quiet because my sister was apparently embarrassed that she needed to take money of them in order to manage.

Hmm no she wasn't and no they weren't. Your sister would have no problem confiding in you that she was struggling to manage if she truly believed in fairness between you. The reason they all hid it is because they know it's unfair and it is just yet another sign of them favouring your sister over you.

Quantumblue · 27/11/2018 20:10

OP it is really hurtful to think that you parents and sister have been bonded together keepsake secret from you. This is hard stuff to deal with.
In my family there is a mad belief that my aunt who is 92 worries so about money and must be supported. She is really rich but gets distressed about bills etc. My mother who is 87, is always slipping her older sister money, topping up her bank account etc. I have said to mum that I think it is quite mad but of course she can do what she wants with her money.

Goldilocks3Bears · 27/11/2018 20:12

I hear what your saying and can understand how you feel. However, you’re also blaming your sister for your parents’ favouritism which is unfair. And ultimately it’s their money so stop bailing her out yourself and then find a way to change the way you feel about this.

Or bring it up at the table and cause a massive row - that’s what Christmas is for after all 😂

Dangit · 27/11/2018 20:15

It seems crazy. Your parents are giving her pocket money.
I think it’s always better to get everything out into the open because it may well eat away at you, now you know about this, and will continue to do so - little by little - with every little unnecessary spend she has - until eventually it does get to you, and you are resentful. And it’s you who stands to loose out by carrying these feelings when she feels nothing but joy from her easy money.
It’s not fair on you at all.

howthehelldoIcopewiththisone · 27/11/2018 20:16

I just wanted to say well done OP and I hope you are ok? What you said was absolutely right, telling her how you feel and I would probably have told her how your sister appears to be able to spend their money (ie not on essentials) I do totally sympathise, my younger brother (youngest in the family) and his wife choose to do low paid jobs. They are both well educated but they choose to only work so many hours a week and choose careers which are low paid (their choice - they obviously enjoy working there - nothing wrong in that) However, my parents constantly bail them out - because "they don't earn very much" they pay for car repairs, they give their children money, they pay for their school trips etc etc. My sister and I do not receive money - we both work and never ask for anything. Now I really don't care if they choose to give them money but brother and sil are so incredibly rude and ungrateful!!!! If we go out as a family my sister and I offer to pay and they NEVER EVER do. We have gone for lovely special meals for big birthdays and my Dad has insisted on treating us all - they refuse REFUSE to even say thank you at the end!!! I am actually fuming as I type this because I have seen my parents - who are very generous- so hurt at times. It's almost as though they can "afford" it and because they are parents they don't have to be grateful! It makes me want to scream!

QueenofmyPrinces · 27/11/2018 20:19

My mom just kept saying I was overrracting, seeing things that weren’t there and she doesn’t know how I can accuse her (and my dad) of giving her preferential treatment. She said that when we young I always had more drive and ambition and sense so they knew I’d turn out okay whereas my sister had always needed their help and so was I saying they should have just left her to her own devices and watch her suffer? I said that allowing a grown-up to live their life based on for the choices they made in is not allowing them to suffer, it’s teaching them to take responsibility for themselves.

I bit my tongue when it came to telling them how exactly my sister is spending their money because I think it would just come across as cruel and petty and I don’t want to be painted as the jealous and bitter daughter. They’ve been excusing her behaviour since we were teenagers do even if I had made a comment about my sister’s spending my mom would still find a way to justify it.

OP posts:
RedDogsBeg · 27/11/2018 20:21

One of the main things I’m upset about is having to acknowledge the possibility that the relationship I thought I had with my sister wasn’t real.

I think that is the crux of it,QueenofmyPrinces, your sister does not think of you the way you think of her, if she did she would not have hidden this from you nor would she have accepted being so financially favoured over you.

Your sister going bleating to your mother about this in order for your mother to confront you about it is also telling, your sister is marshalling everyone to fight for her against you, to make you feel guilty for making her feel bad.

It's good that you've said your piece, they are all now in no doubt as to how you feel and the impact this has had on you they can't deny the impact it has had on you and your view of your standing in the family and the relationship you have with them.

Are you still going to see your sister on Thursday?

SunnyTikka · 27/11/2018 20:22

Queen, I really feel for you.
I am a big believer in treating your children equally. My friend has a brother who is crap with money and keeps getting into debt. Their parents have to bail him out although he's in his 40s. They had to buy him a car for £5,000. So they gave my friend the same money. When he had a final demand for £1500 they paid it, then gave my friend the same. She doesn't 'need' it but she accepted it and paid it off her mortgage. Why should she be detrimented because she keeps her finances in order and her brother is extravagant?
Both kids are treated the same with mine. They get the same amount spent on them at birthdays, Christmas etc.
I find it difficult that your parents are not thinking the same, it's so hurtful.

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