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My sister financially benefitting from our parents AGAIN.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 26/11/2018 08:40

There are 13 months between me and my sister so we were very close growing up together and we are still close now, I love her and she’s one of my favourite people to be around.

Growing up we were very different, I was the typical ‘good sensible girl’ whereas she was more the type who took each day as it came and having fun was her main focus. At the time, I was envious of her character and spirit and wished I was more like her.

I did well at school, went to college, then university and have a professional job, whereas she didn’t really try at school, dropped out of two college courses and eventually ended up in a job that our neighbour found for her.

Fast forward to now: we’re in our late 30s and still very close. We both have two children although she is no longer with the father as he turned out to be a complete shit. He’s active in the children’s lives though and he provides well for them financially and helps my sister out too in ways he isn’t obliged to. I don’t particularly like the man but I can’t criticise him for the way he still provides for the children and the things he does to help my sister.

In our teenage years and through our 20’s my sister was frequently financially helped out by our parents because “she didn’t have a well paying job” and they paid out a lot for her. They paid for things to be done around her house (luxuries as opposed to necessities), paid her phone bills and store cards, paid for things for the children and paid for her driving lessons too when she was in her mid 20’s.

At the same time as they were paying for her driving lessons I was having to pay for my own lessons even though I was a student and they were charging me rent, compared to her being in full time employment and not even living in the family home anymore.

I could list lots of ways my sister has financially benefited from our parents over the last 10-15 years and although there has always been potential for resentment because of how differently we were treated I never felt it, or if I did I have no recollection of it and it didn’t impact on my relationship with my sister.

Fast forward to the last 12 months or so and my sister started going out with her friends a lot more, going out frequently for meals and drinks, going away for weekends, having new clothes etc and at the time I thought nothing of it. I was just glad to see her enjoying herself now her children are older (10 and 14) and that she was getting her life back as it were.

Recently me and DH have put ourselves out quite significantly in terms of finances in order to do something to benefit her children in order to allow them to experience something they’d never be able to if me and DH didn’t pay for it. Initially we had spoken about her paying 10% of the cost but after thinking about it I told my sister that no financial contribution was necessary as I was happy to treat my nieces and that I knew every pound counts to her and that even a small contribution would be difficult for her. She said thanks, she appreciated it and that was the end of the discussion.

Anyhow - I found out a few days ago that for the last 12 months my parents have been giving her £200 every month “just in case she needs it” and it’s actually really pissed me off. Our parents are divorced and they each give her £100.

I now feel a little put out that she so readily accepted our offer not to contribute to what we are doing for her children (which is costing us nearly £1k) when she’s getting £200 each month from our parents that she doesn’t actually need.

They (particularly my mom) also give her children money quite frequently whereas mine don’t get anything.

Inside I feel like the “special treatment” of her is still going on after all these years and I think that throughout her life it’s paid off that she didn’t get a good job because my parents have paid out so much for her and still do. I’m also in disbelief that at our age she is still taking money from our parents because as adults shouldn’t we be taking responsibility for ourselves?

I haven’t told my sister that I know about our parents giving her money each month and my parents don’t know that I know either. I won’t say anything to either of them though because it won’t serve any purpose. I only found out due my mom’s brother accidentally letting it slip when he asked me how I was spending my £200 each month as he had assumed my parents were doing it for both of us.

Im just venting. I know it’s my parents choice how they spend their money but after watching them pay out for so much for her over the last two decades this has been a bit of a blow to know they’re still doing it.

I was talking to DH about it and in my frustration I said that I wished I’d made her life choices instead of my own as maybe then my parents would have paid my way in life too and funded my lifestyle choices. I didn’t mean it, I just said it in frustration. I don’t want money from my parents, I wouldn’t accept it if they offered, but I feel a bit hurt that again my sister is getting money from them for no real reason whereas their generosity wasn’t even offered to me.

AIBU to feel a bit pissed off? Has anyone else been in a similar position and found ways to deal with it?

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MyKingdomForBrie · 27/11/2018 14:36

I think they're paying her more money to make up for feeling less proud of her and having less of a relationship with her.

I would take your situation over hers every day, I think you should carry on as you are and leave your parents to deal with their dc as they see fit.

Their time is of so much more value than their cash.

SlowDown76mph · 27/11/2018 14:39

You don't have a sister problem. You have a parent problem...

If you want to cut out the middle-man (your mother) as it were, and develop an honest and sincere relationship with your sister, then grab this opportunity. Start talking. Don't criticise. Don't blame. Listen.

I predict she has a very different interpretation of family history and experiences with your parents compared to you. This doesn't mean that either of you are 'wrong'.

Talk. Be honest and non-judgemental. You are both giving your parents way too much negative power here.

QueenofmyPrinces · 27/11/2018 14:41

Well I’m glad your sister has you to fall back on when your parents can’t pay out any more.

I have never financially supplemented my sister so I don’t know why you’re implying I will do for her what my parents have?

Me taking my nieces on holiday with us is benefiting them - it doesn’t financially benefit my sister. I would understand the comments if I was paying for my sister to come too, but I’m not. And yes I did read up on it.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 27/11/2018 14:43

I predict she has a very different interpretation of family history and experiences with your parents compared to you. This doesn't mean that either of you are 'wrong'.

I do agree with this. I’m supposed to be seeing her on Thursday so I will just talk to her about it then. I don’t want to get drawn into some text or phone call argument and this speaking face to face is probably the best way forward.

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aaaaargghhhhelpme · 27/11/2018 14:56

You can’t see how you’re supplementing your sister by paying for her children? Okay.

Where’s her incentive to change? Why should she start paying her way? Why should she spend money on her kids instead of going out?

Your posts are very defensive excluding yourself for spending a thousand pounds on her family (hey she’s not offered to help has she despite all the handouts)

But it’s ok. Your kids haven’t been disadvantaged. You’re ok. It’s not for her it’s for her kids. The overtime wasn’t much. The kids didn’t miss you.

It’s all just one big excuse.

What did you make of fog? Are you taking any steps now you’ve read it. What’s changed

aaaaargghhhhelpme · 27/11/2018 14:56

Excusing not excluding amazing auto correct

montenuit · 27/11/2018 15:06

You earned £1000 from 4 extra shifts
You work part time
You are clearly VERY well paid. You clearly don't need any financial help. Why do you begrudge your sister? I could understand if you were struggling too but you're really not.

fuzzywuzzy · 27/11/2018 15:11

Monteuit surely that depend on how long the shifts are. I don’t think £250 a day for over time is a huge salary at all.

And if I’ve read right op is a nurse so her work is very physicaL.

chickenloverwoman · 27/11/2018 15:14

^
THIS

What @fuzzywuzzy said

chickenloverwoman · 27/11/2018 15:16

What @fzzywuzzy said at 13:48!

senua · 27/11/2018 15:19

"I don’t think £250 in her hand, after tax NI and pension a day for over time is a huge salary at all."
I do!

Holidayshopping · 27/11/2018 15:19

Are you taking your sister away in holiday or just her kids?

I find that really odd. I get on really well with my siblings but don’t take their kids away with me on holidays.

I think you are offering things she hasn’t asked for and then being cross when she isn’t paying you for it. Change the dynamic and look after your own kids.

Holidayshopping · 27/11/2018 15:20

Monteuit surely that depend on how long the shifts are. I don’t think £250 a day for over time is a huge salary at all.

I bloody do!

I had no idea nurses were that well paid.

chickenloverwoman · 27/11/2018 15:32

Depends on the type/grade of nursing, if it's unsociable hours, bank shifts etc.

QueenofmyPrinces · 27/11/2018 15:41

Band 5, Sunday Bank shifts, 12.5 hours each shift.

I have said repeatedly I don’t need the money or want the money. It’s the 20 years of inequality that has riled me up.

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chickenloverwoman · 27/11/2018 15:51

Queen
Your sister is using the money you earned. Ok she didn't ask for it, but she could have paid for the holiday for her children, or offered to contribute. She didn't. She let you do extra shifts to pay for her children!

Your parents have been unfair to you and are still demonstrating an unfairness. Ok it may not be deliberate or concious, but they are.

Your sister is accepting this unfair (to you) attitude from your parents AND now she is passing that attitude on to her children, by accepting your financial aid when she could have paid towards the holiday ( or even taken her own children on holiday, with her own money. Like parents normally do)

Again, Ok it may not be deliberate or concious, but she is perpetuating the idea that it's ok to accept handouts from others even if you don't actually need them.

Imo you need to call a halt to this destructive cycle before it affects you, and your children even more.

RedDogsBeg · 27/11/2018 15:51

OP, does your sister treat both her daughters equally? Does she expect others to do so? If so, how would she feel if, for example, her ex (or his parents) treated one financially better than the other one? How would she feel when the one not in receipt of this generosity brought it to her attention? Would she feel aggrieved on behalf of the daughter who was losing out or would she take the side of the one who is benefiting?

The actions of your sister in keeping this from you are deceitful, if she had any decency she would have insisted that she contribute to the holding knowing as she did that she was in receipt of funds from your parents that you were not. No wonder you are hurt.

My parents treat us all as equals, if they give one money they give the same to the other. If one or other of us siblings doesn't need it and one other does we often then gift it to the one who needs it, but that is our choice to do so our parents don't decide that on our behalf. My in laws are the same and all of us are the same with our own children, but then we all communicate openly and don't and wouldn't hide something like this.

QueenofmyPrinces · 27/11/2018 16:02

A text off my sister after I had said I felt deceived in terms of her letting me think she’d struggle to pay the monthly payments towards the holiday and so me telling her not to worry about giving me any money...

“Well I thought you would get suspicious if I insisted on giving you some money towards it so I just went along with it.”

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chickenloverwoman · 27/11/2018 16:04

Well she could have said "actually, Queen, DD and DM have been giving me some r
xtra cash each month, so I can pay you back £100 per month until the children's share is paid for, if you can pay for them up front now

chickenloverwoman · 27/11/2018 16:06

But she chose to decive you, instead! Just like your parents have been doing!
And this is the cycle I was talking about!

QueenofmyPrinces · 27/11/2018 16:10

She’s now offering to give me the money that we’d originally agreed upon in terms of her contribution to the holiday but I’ve told her not to bother. If she was that bothered about doing the right thing she would have been honest with me from the start.

I’ve told her that I just need some space to get things straight in my head and that I will be in touch when I’m ready to talk to her properly about it.

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Grace212 · 27/11/2018 16:15

that text from your sis, saying "I thought you would get suspicious" is basically saying "I thought we would get found out" i.e. her and your parents.

some space is a very good plan. Sorry you are having all this.

mummyhaschangedhername · 27/11/2018 16:29

Honestly they keep making it worse. Sorry that this has happened OP, It can't be nice feeling like you were treated so differently all your lives.

RedDogsBeg · 27/11/2018 16:43

OP, your sister knows this is unfair treatment towards you from both her and your parents, she has been complicit in hiding it from you, she has enjoyed benefiting from this inequality which is shown by her defensive attitude now you have found out. To say she didn't insist on paying her share towards the holiday because you would be suspicious shows she put the want of the arrangement and its' secrecy to continue as it favoured her over being truthful and fair towards you.

I find it very telling of your sisters' character and attitude that she has never once questioned your parents on this arrangement (plus all the other financial help) and the inherent unfairness of it towards you. If she loved and valued you as much as you do her she would either have spoken to your parents, or told you in confidence and offer to share it with you without involving your parents. If this had been reversed would you have allowed your sister to be treated so unfairly?

chickenloverwoman · 27/11/2018 16:44

I'd take the money from her, just to get the message across that she, and your parents, have been totally out of order doing this behind your back. And I might donate it to charity, I might keep it, who knows?

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