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AIBU?

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Is it me or him or are we just not compatible?

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Fozzia · 21/11/2018 15:36

I have name changed for this but I have lurked for a long time and have been posting for a while.

I’m really just looking for different views on my relationship. I’m starting to feel quite emotionally drained with it all and can’t really tell how I feel anymore! I tend to pretend everything is great in real life so it’s hard to get an outsiders opinion.

I have been with my boyfriend (will call him Kyle!) for around 2 and a half years. We met at work. I have one DS (don’t want to say exact age but over 5 under 10!). Kyle was well aware of this as had met him numerous times at work. When we got together I was hesitant to have Kyle around DS as I have never introduced him to any previous boyfriends. However, he was very keen and as they did already vaguely know each other, we started spending lots of time all together. Kyle was amazing with DS. They got on like a house on fire and pretty quickly (much quicker than I would have liked in hindsight) we unofficially lived with Kyle, at his request. I still kept my own place and DS spends 50% of the week with his dad. It all seemed to be going great, like I’d met the man of dreams. He was in the process of house hunting and involved us both in that process. He clearly stated that he wanted us to move in officially when this happened, not just to me but to/in front of family and friends.

His mother then came to visit and everything turned sour quite quickly. He has obviously not made his mum aware of how serious we were and she clearly did not expect us to be there. I’m not sure if she was even aware of DS. We decided to move back to our flat to give him and his mum some space to spend time together. When his mum went home, I went over as normal (alone) to find all our stuff had been packed up and his mum had binned birthday cards DS had made for Kyle. We had a massive fight which resulted in him deciding he had moved too quickly and didn’t want all of this yet. I was very upset as I felt this had been my view from the offset but he had ‘brought me round’ as such just to then throw it in my face. But I understood how he felt and we decided that I’d move back to my flat and visit two to three times a week and DS would only stay over the odd weekend.

This worked well for a while. DS didn’t massively understand and I felt like the worst mother in the world for putting him in a position I had always been adamant I wouldn’t put him in but he was still very happy and didn’t seem too fussed. Kyle continued to include us in house hunting ect until he actually moved in to the new house when it became clear he wanted to take another step back. It has almost been two years since he moved into this house and DS has not stepped foot in it once. Kyle and I spend time together when DS is at his dads.

Kyle has now not seen DS at all in almost one year. I have tried to have discussions about possibly spending an hour or two all together once a month but it was shot down. He has a very demanding job and is also studying for a post graduate degree so I can understand he is very busy and both physically and mentally taxed sometimes, but not to the extent he can’t manage a walk round the park once a month.

Since the issues with his mother, I have met and spent time with her on numerous occassions and I do like her and she appears to like me. Except she bins my toothbrush every time she visits. The last time she used it to clean the grout from the floor tiles and left it on the floor. She also bins Kyle’s and buys him a new one. Mine is bright pink, there are only two there so it is quite obvious it is mine. He is a mummy’s boy and it is quite evident she does not think I’m good enough for him. This doesn’t bother me as other family members have told me she has always been like that with everyone and can be a very spiteful, vindictive person (refuses to go to other sons wedding, called her daughter fat when she clearly has an eating disorder etc). Not sure if that’s even relevant or if I just wanted to rant about it a bit!

It is starting to become obvious than he won’t stay here forever. He has a job in quite a niche field and it’s likely he will move to further his career. When I try to talk him about this, he shuts me down. There is only so far I could go with him if he moved as I wouldn’t move DS away from his family and friends.

He is quite a sensitive person in the sense that he gets annoyed very easily - either how I speak, how I eat, the things I eat, how I sit, if I move too much, if I make a noise inadvertently ect. When he gets annoyed he can be very nasty without realising it. We don’t have sex anywhere near as often as I would like - maybe once a week at the most. If I try to initiate sex I get pushed away. We hardly ever kiss or cuddle, he’s not big on affection whereas I really crave it sometimes. He never comes to my place, it’s just completely out of the question, I always have to go to his.

Separately these issues don’t massively bother me but all together they just completely drain me. If our relationship isn’t going to go any further, if he can’t find it in himself to spend a tiny percentage of his time with the most important person in my life then I just don’t really see the point. I don’t expect a perfect relationship but I’ve always sort of felt that you push through the bullshit because you know the other person is who you want to be with for the long the run. If you don’t and it’s just for the here and now, shouldn’t it be easier and lighter and more fun than this?

If you have read this far you deserve a medal Blush. It’s probably all just a rambling, hormonal (time of the month!) mess but AIBU to think like this? Should I just let it be and see what it becomes naturally, am I over thinking it all? I just don’t really know my own head anymore. I should add, it’s not like I want a massive commitment - I have no interest in more children or marriage and I much prefer my flat to his so wouldn’t particularly want to move in with him now!

OP posts:
TooSassy · 21/11/2018 19:39

Can you change job? Or departments?

I can promise you one thing. If you push through and end this, the initial hard part of missing him, letting go of the dream will be hard. But fast on the heels of that will be relief. Immense relief.

I’m sorry OP but he sounds just awful. There is a whole world of the most wonderful people out there. People who can be friends. Supports. People who make you laugh and enjoy life. Please don’t waste a moment more on this person.

BumbleBeee69 · 21/11/2018 19:44

OP's started out at the wrong end of a relationship Hmm started off practically living together, then moving out and now gets to randomly visit without a toothbrush, next month you'll be FWB, isn't this entirely the wrong way round right ?

Howdoyoudoit31 · 21/11/2018 19:53

Chuck him in the fuck it bucket and move on.

Motoko · 21/11/2018 19:54

Ok, this bit is what signalled abuse:
He is quite a sensitive person in the sense that he gets annoyed very easily - either how I speak, how I eat, the things I eat, how I sit, if I move too much, if I make a noise inadvertently ect. When he gets annoyed he can be very nasty without realising it.

Yes, we all have annoying habits, that irritate our partners, but how you sit? How you speak? How you eat? And to be nasty about it, (he KNOWS he's being nasty btw), is unnecessary. Is he nasty about those things when you're at work, with other people? I bet he's not, which means he knows he's doing it, because he controls it. He doesn't want his Mr Nice mask to slip in front of others. It's classic abusive behaviour.

ArsenicNLace · 21/11/2018 19:57

I’m not really sure what constitutes as abuse

These are all examples of abuse!!

He is quite a sensitive person in the sense that he gets annoyed very easily - either how I speak, how I eat, the things I eat, how I sit, if I move too much, if I make a noise inadvertently ect

No he is not a 'sensitive' person. This is clearly abusive and and a sign of coercive and controlling behaviour. He thinks you're beneath him. Do you change your behaviour to 'keep the peace'?

When he gets annoyed he can be very nasty without realising it

Of course he realises it!! It's entirely deliberate. Again it's abusive and he's keeping you in your place. Does he accuse you of being 'overly sensitive' if you say he's hurt you???

We don’t have sex anywhere near as often as I would like - maybe once a week at the most. If I try to initiate sex I get pushed away. We hardly ever kiss or cuddle, he’s not big on affection whereas I really crave it sometimes.

More controlling behaviour there. Ok everyone has different sex drives but it's something that should be discussed and agreed upon.

He never comes to my place, it’s just completely out of the question, I always have to go to his.

More controlling behaviour. It's all on his terms isn't it???

You definitely need to do the Freedom Programme. You've just come back on here to minimise and defend his appalling behaviour. Yes his mother is behaving badly but he is allowing it. The toothbrush thin is deliberately aggressive and demeaning. It should bother you that she shows such disrespect for you.

Did your own parents do similar things? I once had counselling after an emotionally abusive relationship. I was telling her about our first date when he gushed over me telling me how wonderful I was: except for my eyebrows!!! Apparently they needed shaping and tidying up. The counsellor asked me if I was upset by that comment but I said because it was so bizarre I thought it was funny. She said most people would have been a bit upset by that comment and that in reality even in the 'love bombing' phase when he should have been on his best behaviour he couldn't hide his true nature which was to be nasty and critical. We established that I had grown up with very critical parents so being criticised was my 'norm' and it didn't raise red flags like it should have done. Does that ring any bells with you???

eddielizzard · 21/11/2018 19:59

Yup, all these things add up to one big arsehole I'm afraid.

If I were you, I'd look for another job and then make sure I never saw him again. I can't quite get my head around him effectively dumping your kid, and you continued to see him for so long after? Why? That's really horrible. Add to that the 'sensitive' stuff, and this guy's really not relationship material. Plus the wacko mum? Nail in coffin.

I understand you're hoping you'll get back the old Kyle, but really, he never existed.

ItWentDownMyHeartHole · 21/11/2018 20:02

You’ve got a horribly fractured, weird relationship which (along with the rest of us) you know has to end.

I feel for you. But much more for your DS. Who goes around dropping the kid but keeping the mum? Tool.

As for the disappointing sex, I should imagine his low drive is directly related to the intense relationship he has with his unkind and manipulative mother.

RedLife · 21/11/2018 20:03

He sounds like a prat. And gets annoyed by how you sit? Fuck that he's not your boss.

Merryoldgoat · 21/11/2018 20:15

Any man that treated my child like that would’ve been long gone.

WatchThisThread · 21/11/2018 20:33

Dear OP, please walk away from this man. It's going nowhere and the relationship will never be the right place for your DS.

You both deserve to be with a man who values you. Who loves and celebrates his life with you. Who finds joy in being with you both. Those men are out there; I found one.

This man and his mother are not ever going to cherish you and your DS in the way that you deserve. Yes he may be "distraught" if you leave him, but does he care a jot for how he and his mother have made you feel? And for having disrupted life for your DS? No.

And that's it really. Run, and run now. You owe him nothing

SavageBeauty73 · 21/11/2018 21:05

Why are you with him??? He sounds horrendous and cruel

Sommelierrrr · 21/11/2018 21:12

Wtaf?? Your poor ds 😪

WisdomOfCrowds · 21/11/2018 21:51

Bloody hell OP, there are emotionally abusive relationships and then there's this unholy cluster fuck! This man is an utter shit and will never treat you and your son right. He honestly sounds unhinged. I promise you that once you get that distance you will see this for what it is and watching him move on with his life will bring you nothing but peace and relief.

As for Kyle's mum, since no one else has done it...

m.youtube.com/watch?v=i9AT3jjAP0Y

MsJudgemental · 21/11/2018 22:02

LTB

Aria999 · 21/11/2018 22:03

You work in the same team? That's tough. Would you consider moving jobs? You totally should not have to but I can see it being really difficult still working together.

WhereYouLeftIt · 21/11/2018 22:10

"He is quite a sensitive person in the sense that he gets annoyed very easily - either how I speak, how I eat, the things I eat, how I sit, if I move too much, if I make a noise inadvertently ect. When he gets annoyed he can be very nasty without realising it."

Getting annoyed easily is not a sign of sensitivity - I'd say it's quite the opposite. It's a sign of intolerance; it's a sign of inflexibility; it's a sign of immaturity.

As for him not realising he's being nasty - oh, how I laughed! Of course he realises! He's doing it deliberately - he's training you to behave as his little domestic appliance.

The toothbrush thing - pretty clear to be honest. His mum is telling you that you don't belong in Kyle's house and you certainly shouldn't have any belongings there that indicate you make yourself at home. She packed up all your stuff, remember? And as has been pointed out, Kyle let her do that. Cleaning the grout with your toothbrush and leaving it where you would see what she had done? It's like primates chucking their own faeces at each other.

We are not emotionally involved here Fozzia, so we are looking at the woods not the trees. And it's not a pretty sight. Kyle is just one big headfuck, and this relationship is both unhealthy, and going nowhere.

Please, get out of it ASAP.

Jaffacakebeast · 21/11/2018 22:14

Is this even real, you’re his fuck buddy, he’s keeping u around till he meets “wife material” Fuck that

Stefoscope · 21/11/2018 22:26

I'll never understand why some mothers remain so invested in their adult children's relationships. I was talking to a colleague earlier (he's mid 20s) and has been seeing a girl the other side of the country for a couple of months now. In that very short time the girl's mother has gone from saying the relationship won't last and she doesn't like him at all, to he should move in with them whilst he figures out relocating to be closer to her! Confused.

I mean my MIL has her moments of attention seeking bat shittery (fortunately none directed at me) but if my DP didn't pull her up on it I would find it hard to respect him as a person and want to be in a relationship with him.

yorkshirepud44 · 21/11/2018 22:41

Kyle's a twat who doesn't deserve you or your ds. I'm sorry.

Darkstar4855 · 21/11/2018 23:07

He sounds very like my emotionally abusive ex (and I couldn’t see it as abuse at the time either). The overbearing mother cleaning his bathroom is another red flag - men who are still being looked after by their mothers at this age often expect the same level of “service” from their partners because it’s what they’ve been conditioned to see as normal.

Yes he is “distraught” when you talk about ending things: because at the moment he has you exactly where he wants you and the relationship is entirely on his terms. He’s getting everything he needs but giving you very little back.

SpannerH · 22/11/2018 14:41

He acts like you don't have a son. For that reason alone you shouldn't give him the time of day.

BumbleBeee69 · 22/11/2018 22:42

He acts like you don't have a son. For that reason alone you shouldn't give him the time of day

this with bloody bells on

Sparklesocks · 22/11/2018 22:47

Oh god get out - mummy’s boys are an utter nightmare, you will never be as important as mummy dearest and he will jump whenever she snaps her fingers.

Also you and your D.S. come as a package deal, it’s mad he hasn’t seen him in so long! He clearly isn’t interested in the most important person in your life, or mummy won’t let him be.

Leave, do better.

Fozzia · 23/11/2018 16:39

I know you are all right, if I was to read this as an outsider I would think I was completely crazy. It’s so hard to relate everyone’s post to someone I love so deeply. Since posting this everything feels very different - like a blindfold has been taken off!

When I say we work in the same ‘team’, I more just mean the same place/company. There are only about 8 of us. I will have to see him and talk to him on a daily basis. It would be so much easier if I could hate him! I love my job, it fits in perfectly with DS and I love nearly all the people I work with, some of them are very good friends. I have thought for a while now about returning to education so maybe it would be a good time for a fresh start all round.

Never thought I would ever be quite as pathetic as this!

OP posts:
Loopytiles · 23/11/2018 17:13

Keep the job for now. Dump Kyle: won’t be easy seeing him, but once the scales fall from your eyes it’ll get easier.

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