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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Is it me or him or are we just not compatible?

133 replies

Fozzia · 21/11/2018 15:36

I have name changed for this but I have lurked for a long time and have been posting for a while.

I’m really just looking for different views on my relationship. I’m starting to feel quite emotionally drained with it all and can’t really tell how I feel anymore! I tend to pretend everything is great in real life so it’s hard to get an outsiders opinion.

I have been with my boyfriend (will call him Kyle!) for around 2 and a half years. We met at work. I have one DS (don’t want to say exact age but over 5 under 10!). Kyle was well aware of this as had met him numerous times at work. When we got together I was hesitant to have Kyle around DS as I have never introduced him to any previous boyfriends. However, he was very keen and as they did already vaguely know each other, we started spending lots of time all together. Kyle was amazing with DS. They got on like a house on fire and pretty quickly (much quicker than I would have liked in hindsight) we unofficially lived with Kyle, at his request. I still kept my own place and DS spends 50% of the week with his dad. It all seemed to be going great, like I’d met the man of dreams. He was in the process of house hunting and involved us both in that process. He clearly stated that he wanted us to move in officially when this happened, not just to me but to/in front of family and friends.

His mother then came to visit and everything turned sour quite quickly. He has obviously not made his mum aware of how serious we were and she clearly did not expect us to be there. I’m not sure if she was even aware of DS. We decided to move back to our flat to give him and his mum some space to spend time together. When his mum went home, I went over as normal (alone) to find all our stuff had been packed up and his mum had binned birthday cards DS had made for Kyle. We had a massive fight which resulted in him deciding he had moved too quickly and didn’t want all of this yet. I was very upset as I felt this had been my view from the offset but he had ‘brought me round’ as such just to then throw it in my face. But I understood how he felt and we decided that I’d move back to my flat and visit two to three times a week and DS would only stay over the odd weekend.

This worked well for a while. DS didn’t massively understand and I felt like the worst mother in the world for putting him in a position I had always been adamant I wouldn’t put him in but he was still very happy and didn’t seem too fussed. Kyle continued to include us in house hunting ect until he actually moved in to the new house when it became clear he wanted to take another step back. It has almost been two years since he moved into this house and DS has not stepped foot in it once. Kyle and I spend time together when DS is at his dads.

Kyle has now not seen DS at all in almost one year. I have tried to have discussions about possibly spending an hour or two all together once a month but it was shot down. He has a very demanding job and is also studying for a post graduate degree so I can understand he is very busy and both physically and mentally taxed sometimes, but not to the extent he can’t manage a walk round the park once a month.

Since the issues with his mother, I have met and spent time with her on numerous occassions and I do like her and she appears to like me. Except she bins my toothbrush every time she visits. The last time she used it to clean the grout from the floor tiles and left it on the floor. She also bins Kyle’s and buys him a new one. Mine is bright pink, there are only two there so it is quite obvious it is mine. He is a mummy’s boy and it is quite evident she does not think I’m good enough for him. This doesn’t bother me as other family members have told me she has always been like that with everyone and can be a very spiteful, vindictive person (refuses to go to other sons wedding, called her daughter fat when she clearly has an eating disorder etc). Not sure if that’s even relevant or if I just wanted to rant about it a bit!

It is starting to become obvious than he won’t stay here forever. He has a job in quite a niche field and it’s likely he will move to further his career. When I try to talk him about this, he shuts me down. There is only so far I could go with him if he moved as I wouldn’t move DS away from his family and friends.

He is quite a sensitive person in the sense that he gets annoyed very easily - either how I speak, how I eat, the things I eat, how I sit, if I move too much, if I make a noise inadvertently ect. When he gets annoyed he can be very nasty without realising it. We don’t have sex anywhere near as often as I would like - maybe once a week at the most. If I try to initiate sex I get pushed away. We hardly ever kiss or cuddle, he’s not big on affection whereas I really crave it sometimes. He never comes to my place, it’s just completely out of the question, I always have to go to his.

Separately these issues don’t massively bother me but all together they just completely drain me. If our relationship isn’t going to go any further, if he can’t find it in himself to spend a tiny percentage of his time with the most important person in my life then I just don’t really see the point. I don’t expect a perfect relationship but I’ve always sort of felt that you push through the bullshit because you know the other person is who you want to be with for the long the run. If you don’t and it’s just for the here and now, shouldn’t it be easier and lighter and more fun than this?

If you have read this far you deserve a medal Blush. It’s probably all just a rambling, hormonal (time of the month!) mess but AIBU to think like this? Should I just let it be and see what it becomes naturally, am I over thinking it all? I just don’t really know my own head anymore. I should add, it’s not like I want a massive commitment - I have no interest in more children or marriage and I much prefer my flat to his so wouldn’t particularly want to move in with him now!

OP posts:
Babymamamama · 21/11/2018 17:56

Move on. Get rid. This is not a relationship.

Forgotmycoat · 21/11/2018 18:06

Where are you op? Please do put the posters on this thread out of their misery and let us know what you're thinking. We're all rooting for you to believe you and your son deserve better than this sort of shit treatment from this shit guy.

Iizzyb · 21/11/2018 18:19

Dump him now. Just gather up anything you want back from his place leave the toothbrushes and don't look back.

If you have bought him a Christmas present return it, get a refund and spend the money on a treat for you/ds or both of you. If you have budgeted but not bought a present yet ditto.

8 years ago I did the dumping. I had budgeted to buy gifts for his dc. Instead I bought the loveliest poshest sheepskin mittens ever and some expensive (at the time) jeans. Those mittens reminded me every winter day for several years what a wise choice I had made.

Just do it op you and ds deserve much better than this Cake for courage xx

Forgotmycoat · 21/11/2018 18:37

@Lizzyb I love the idea of you buying posh sheepskin mittens for yourself after dumping your ex. What a fine example of self-care.
Op please dump this man who treats you and your ds with such contempt and treat yourself to some expensive mittens. They will bring more more warmth into your life than this man ever will.

Fozzia · 21/11/2018 18:42

Thanks for all the replies, I really didn’t expect there to be so many - sorry, I don’t know how to reply individually!

I should have probably made some things a bit clearer in my OP but I already felt like I was waffling on! He didn’t pack up our stuff - his mum did. I did end things with him when I realised - we talked, he basically said he had made a mistake and rushed into everything and he just wanted to take things slower. It was very hurtful but I could understand - as I said we moved that quickly against my better judgment.

I take full responsibility for any upset caused to DS for this. I made a very stupid mistake which I had tried so very carefully to avoid making - my previous boyfriend didn’t meet DS and we were also together for 2 years. I just felt this time was different - clearly I was very wrong and I most definitely won’t make the same mistake again. Thankfully, DS hasn’t actually shown any signs of caring. We got some cats when we moved back, they were much more exciting! I’m not naive enough to believe it didn’t affect him on some level though, which is entirely my fault.

He does treat me as a ‘girlfriend’ on a day to day basis. He calls and texts all the time, if I need to talk to him or need help from him he’s there, he cooks for me, buys presents he knows I’ll love, we go on holidays together (even to stay at his parents house twice), ect ect.

In regards to sex/affection, I only mentioned that as an example. I would be willing to accept he has a low sex drive/isn’t an affectionate person if that was the only problem but clearly its not. It’s not that he doesn’t want to have sex with me or is sleeping around - he just has a low sex drive, confirmed by two of his three ex’s. Not that I went asking them 🙈 we have some mutual friends.

I have no intention of blaming his mum. As I said, I actually get on pretty well with her - she is very nice to my face. Other than binning the cards DS made him nothing she does really bothers me. I can buy a new toothbrush, I just buy multipacks now!

Not that any of this matters really. I more just want to say that I’m not quite as sad and desperate following someone around who has said they don’t want me there. He treats me very well a lot of the time and on the two occassions I have spoken about ending things before he has been completely distraught.

I just can’t communicate with him anymore. I can’t talk about him seeing DS because a) I don’t want him to see him, I feel he had his chance and completely blew it and b) I shouldn’t have to try and convince someone who loves me and apparently cared about my son to spend anytime with him.

The poster(s) who suggested I am waiting for him to go back to the man he was when we first met are probably right. I’ve never felt that way before. But he has shown me that man is not who he is.

Thank you for all your advice and support. I know I have to end it, I have known it for a long time but instead have just played along living two separate lives. We work together in a very small, very close team and it will absolutely kill me to watch him move on with his life. When I think about it properly and honestly, he doesn’t want to be with me as the person I am and with the life I have. It’s just been such a long, emotional, head fuck of a rollercoaster and I just really wanted it to end up somewhere much better than this.

Sorry to be writing so much nonsense, it’s really difficult to properly explain how I feel - I’ve never said any of this out loud, never mind written it down. Everyone thinks we have something really good going on and eventually we will end up living happily ever after. In reality, they couldn’t be more wrong!

OP posts:
CottonTailRabbit · 21/11/2018 18:44

He's a drain. The sex is shit. Fuck that. Get rid today.

ENormaSnob · 21/11/2018 18:47

Ffs.

Put your kid first.

Gather any shreds of self respect you may have.

fc301 · 21/11/2018 18:51

Hmm. So you came back on to minimise?

MorningsEleven · 21/11/2018 18:53

Bin him. He's a wanker.

Lifeisabeach09 · 21/11/2018 19:02

There is no future with this man.
His behaviour towards you and your son has been horrendous. It's clear he doesn't like you-you irritate him but he wants you around on his terms. You will be walking on eggshells constantly with this man. Added to which, his mother will always cause problems between you.
Agree with PPs. Get rid.

BlaaBlaaBlaa · 21/11/2018 19:06

I'm sorry but a person doesn't throw out a person's toothbrush if they like them .... That's bizarre and manipulative behaviour.

WestBerlin · 21/11/2018 19:07

‘I have no intention of blaming his mum. As I said, I actually get on pretty well with her - she is very nice to my face. Other than binning the cards DS made him nothing she does really bothers me. I can buy a new toothbrush, I just buy multipacks now!’

But why doesn’t it bother you!? It’s so disrespectful to you and he’s standing by and letting it happen! Get some self respect and throw the whole man out.

ThunderInMyHeart · 21/11/2018 19:07

I stopped reading at ‘Kyle hasn’t seen DS in over a year’

Ditto what Aquamarine said

Motoko · 21/11/2018 19:08

Even abusers are nice sometimes, it's how they keep you hooked.

But, even if he wasn't abusive, this relationship is going nowhere. He doesn't want anything to do with your son, so unless you want to carry on like this until your son leaves home, what's the point?

I'm glad to hear you're going to end it, and I recommend you do the Freedom Programme a pp linked to earlier, because your minimising leads me to believe you don't understand the nature of abuse.

Crunchymum · 21/11/2018 19:14

So for basically your whole relationship, your DS hasn't been allowed to your boyfriends house (which makes me wonder why he has a toothbrush there but hey ho)

Lookatyourwatchnow · 21/11/2018 19:25

I read your first post and wanted to headbutt Kyle.

CaliHummers · 21/11/2018 19:27

I was thinking "bin him", then I got to this bit:

He is quite a sensitive person in the sense that he gets annoyed very easily - either how I speak, how I eat, the things I eat, how I sit, if I move too much, if I make a noise inadvertently ect. When he gets annoyed he can be very nasty without realising it. We don’t have sex anywhere near as often as I would like - maybe once a week at the most

And I changed it to "run like the fucking wind".

His mother does not like you. She used your toothbrush to clean the grouting and then left it where you could find it. It's about as animalistic and territorial as it gets. There's some very, very weird Oedipal stuff going on. Run away. You'll find once you've split and re-adjusted your mindset that you'll become more fully aware of how awful "Kyle" is.

Fozzia · 21/11/2018 19:28

I don’t understand the toothbrush thing at all. I’m not just being deluded when I say she is lovely to my face, she really is. She’s very charming, as is he. He said she has always binned his toothbrush - the difference is she replaces his. I find it such a strange, twisted thing to do but as I said in my OP, other family members have told me that she can be a nasty, twisted person. I think it doesn’t really bother me because it’s so bizarre.

I’m not really sure what constitutes as abuse, I wouldn’t have thought our relationship was abusive so I will have a look at that programme, thanks.

@crunchymum - DS doesn’t have a toothbrush at his house, it’s my toothbrush that gets put in the bin.

OP posts:
BumbleBeee69 · 21/11/2018 19:30

He didn’t pack up our stuff - his mum did

He LET her Hmm

you've chosen this DICK over your own Child, you sound desperate to be wanted, I feel heart sorry for your Son, christ almighty Shock

Rosielily · 21/11/2018 19:30

Except she bins my toothbrush every time she visits. The last time she used it to clean the grout from the floor tiles and left it on the floor. She also bins Kyle’s and buys him a new one. Mine is bright pink, there are only two there so it is quite obvious it is mine.

Really? And what does Kyle say about this?

gimmeadoughnut123 · 21/11/2018 19:32

I think you have answered your own question, OP. It sounds like you are moving in opposite directions despite your efforts.

gimmeadoughnut123 · 21/11/2018 19:33

I second everything CaliHummers has said.

MulticolourMophead · 21/11/2018 19:35

I have no intention of blaming his mum. As I said, I actually get on pretty well with her - she is very nice to my face. Other than binning the cards DS made him nothing she does really bothers me. I can buy a new toothbrush, I just buy multipacks now!

She doesn't like you, just being nice to your face. Clearly doesn't think you're good enough, and it may be because you already ahve a child.

We work together in a very small, very close team and it will absolutely kill me to watch him move on with his life.

Hopefully you'll be moving on with your own life. Find ways of getting out that don't involve couple-y stuff. After all, the old saying is "revenge is a life lived well". Dump him and find someone else, who isn't a mummy's boy.

BlaaBlaaBlaa · 21/11/2018 19:35

I was in an emotionally abusive relationship for years which I didn't fully understand until I left. Yours is much worse

CaliHummers · 21/11/2018 19:38

what does Kyle say about this?

Kyle seems to think it's normal. But then Kyle's sense of normality has been surgically removed by his mother so I wouldn't listen.