that it's getting harder for girls to stand up to men like this?

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So, a person with the appearance of 30/40-something man, joined a beauty forum for girls and young women and chatted to them about their periods.

This person asked, persistently, for advice on what to do, should a 10-12 year old girl speak to him about her period eg should he give her advice on inserting it.

This person didn't even bother to hide their appearance, they used their male-looking profile but they said they were trans. It took a while for the girls to challenge him, as they were scared to challenge a transwoman for fear of being seen as bigoted. So they patiently explained periods with this person, who invited them to private message him.

When I was a girl, I would have known to tell an adult about a grown man trying to hang out with us and get us to talk about intimate stuff.

AIBU that the push to be accepting of trans ideology is making life more dangerous for girls as it's blurring the lines over who they should accept in their spaces?

twitter.com/alex_mac/status/993600347838058497

He's a pervert. The moderators should have stepped in and banned him.

All this fear of being labelled as a bigot is annoying. The more women who stand up and call these people out, the better. Would men tolerate this nonsense? No, they'd be shouting from the rooftops about how ridiculous it all is. We need to be bolder. We can't be forced into believing another person's delusion. We need to be able to protect ourselves and our kids. Mass delusions are dangerous.

He was a pervert and a predator. His preferred pronouns have fuck all to do with it. And I say that as a gc rad fem.

He was on here last week, wasn't he?

Keep sounding the alarms, someone in that filthy misogynistic cess pit they call a law and justice system has got to start listening eventually.

Does anyone else notice how all he goes on about are pads, tampons and periods and wanting to know how to change/use these? Correct me if I'm wrong but surely even after gender reassignment he would have no need to know this as he doesn't have the organs for this to be necessary

It's not a bad thing to suss out your enemy a while before challenging.

He's clearly fishing for advice on how he can assault young girls and get away with it.

I understand that part, I just think he was making it way to obvious. I check my children's online activity every night and this would be a huge red flag and I'm wondering why it wasnt picked up sooner. Some of the comments on the original post look like he has been on other pages and posts yet know one has cottoned on. I was also under the assumption that it was for reasons like this that sex education was being taught from the age of 5, did none of the 12/14 year old girls not say anything to a parent when it first came up. Especially since his profile picture doesn't even look female, surely if he was transgender his profile picture wouldn't be male

His preferred pronouns have fuck all to do with it

They have everything to do with it. They made it acceptable for a grown man to ask questions of young women and girls about periods. Or if not acceptable, put the girls and women in a position where they felt unsure about whether they could challenge him.

surely if he was transgender his profile picture wouldn't be male

He says he's trans, so he is in Canadian law. (And soon to be UK law if the GRA changes go through). What he looks like is irrelevant.

I see what you mean @everybody but I have a couple of trans friends and one of the issues with being born the wrong sex is the way they look and the way they feel about their body. It was the first thing they wanted to change and to help them start the transition to being the person they wanted to be. So all I meant was if he is saying he is trans would he not have started making some sort of transition to being female?

He's a pervert. The moderators should have stepped in and banned him.

The internet is full of self moderating groups.

If we tell young girls they must be accepting of transwomen in their spaces, aren't we giving them pretty mixed messages about the kind of person in the OP?

If TW really ARE women, then you'd treat them like a woman. And women don't usually fetishise periods. If we're asking about periods, it's in good faith. So how do we guide young girls?

Serious question. I know how to tell my DD to be wary of strange men.

Am I now supposed to tell her that transwomen are women, and that we mustn't treat them any differently from other women. But that some people sometimes say dodgy things and we need to be on guard for that? Do I pretend men and women are an equal threat while knowing that's not true really?

How on earth do you give a young girl a coherent message on staying safe if you pretend sex (rather than gender) and male violence don't exist?

Exhaustedmummy1811 I have trans friends like that also.
Thing is they're not just trans, they're transexuals, they have gender dysphoria.

The definition of trans being written into law around the world, and being pushed on our public servants and on children in schools through training from Mermaids and Stonewall is that anyone who says they're trans is trans. This includes transvestites and fetishists. They're just as much a woman as me or you, apparently. This is what they're saying we're meant to believe now.

Sounds like a fetishist wanking over tampons and periods. Is he actually trans or just someone that gets off on dressing in women’s clothes and going into women’s spaces? The umbrella (term) is getting wider by the day and i don’t like it and suspicious as to what’s pushing it.

Has no one considered that this person might not be trans at all, in fact they could be trying to push an anti trans agenda and using this to support their cause? Wouldn't be the first time.

The difficulty here isn't how someone identifies, it's that we're all anonymous on the internet. No one knows what another person's motivations are.

There is (hold onto your dinner) a subset of autogynephilic males who are turned on by used sanitary ware. These men have message boards where they talk about going through san bins and taking out used stuff and wanking into it. And so on.

Autogynephilia (AGP) is one of the new trans identities which stonewall have put under their umbrella. To be absolutely clear - this is NOT a behaviour associated with what most people consider old school transsexuals. That group, who have diagnosed gender dysphoria, are not the issue. The issue is all the men with various paraphilias who are now included under that umbrella.

So yes, their pronouns are relevant because they are part of the armour that stops them being challenged because people are afraid of being called bigoted.

If the government pushes self ID through, and GRA (gender recognition act) reform, any man like this will be able to say they are female and access any female only space with no right of challenge. That includes things like being a girl guide volunteer on residential (and parents will actively not be told.) it include women’s gyms, pools, refuges, toilets, hospital wards etc.

Again, this is not a behaviour associated with people with gender dysphoria. It is however a male predatory sexual behaviour being legitimised under the stonewall umbrella.

This is why self ID is dangerous. This is why men need to be kept out of female spaces.

Is he actually trans or just someone that gets off on dressing in women’s clothes and going into women’s spaces?

Legally he's trans if he says he is, in Canada.

He's also the person who's been finding women who provide waxing, demanding they give him a Brazillian and threatening to take them to the human rights tribunal if not. (Or he'll drop it if they pay him off).

www.thepostmillennial.com/carpay-16-vancouver-women-facing-human-rights-complaints-for-refusing-to-wax-transgender-womans-male-genitalia/

There's a thread on that in the Feminist section discussing that in detail.

I was wondering about in the more general safeguarding aspect though - i.e. how can we give our girls safeguarding advice if we go along with accepting transwomen are women?

Has no one considered that this person might not be trans at all, in fact they could be trying to push an anti trans agenda and using this to support their cause?

Have you looked at the screenshots? (See link in OP). This isn't someone trying to discredit the trans movement, FFS , this is an age old pervert, same as they ever were, getting off on fetishising girls.

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