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AIBU?

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Aibu to think the grandparents also have a responsibility?

43 replies

TravelBlues · 07/11/2018 18:31

When a man (let’s face it, it is generally a man) fucks off leaving a woman holding the baby, do the man’s parents have a responsibility towards the welfare of that child?

This is regardless of whether they ‘get to see the child or not’.

In my case, after a couple of years my ex decided that actually, he didn’t want to be a parent after all. He registered as self employed so as not to have to pay anything towards his child, then finally left the country altogether. He has a sister here and I have encouraged dc to have a relationship with those cousins and she’s nice enough. I generally communicate with her. His parents have never made direct contact with me. A couple of times dc has spent a half term with them having travelled with other cousins and either the grandparents or his sister have paid.

I know they are quite well off and they have bought dc an iPad and on another occasion some clothes for Christmas but that’s twice in a decade.

My aibu is am I being unreasonable to take a rather dim view of the whole family. If my son had a child and took no responsibility for it I would see that as a failure on my part to instil morals and I would pay for at least swimming lessons, tuition, SOMETHING on a regular basis, to ease the burden on the person doing the day to day care.

He has another sister who lives an hours drive away and has visited dc about 3 times in her life. I find that poor.

Am I being unfair?

I’ve given them al every opportunity to be involved but it appears to be too much effort for all of them apart from the one sister.

OP posts:
grasspigeons · 07/11/2018 18:36

i think responsibility is the wrong word - but I don't get not wanting to keep in touch with your own grandchildren and making sure they are ok.

Chocolatecoffeeaddict · 07/11/2018 18:43

Agree with grasspigeons, I don't think it is their responsibility, but I think any decent person would not walk away from a grandchild. My eldest child's father is not involved and his parents know about him but have never acknowledged or wanted to see him. I just don't understand how they could know their flesh and blood is out there and support their son in being an irresponsible absent father.

Singlenotsingle · 07/11/2018 18:43

They haven't got a responsibility as such. After all, they didn't decide to have the child, but it would be nice if they opened up their minds, hearts and wallets and include DC as a family member.

Can you not arrange a visit, and go and see them, maybe over Christmas?

MumW · 07/11/2018 18:44

but I don't get not wanting to keep in touch with your own grandchildren and making sure they are ok.

Surely no differrent to I don't get not wanting to keep in touch with your own child and making sure they are ok.

I'm not a big fan of the phrase "apple doesn't fall far from the tree" but it's not really surprising that men who desert their children often come from a family that hasn't instilled that responsibility in their child son so aren't likely to have a similar attitude towards grandchildren.

grtduff10 · 07/11/2018 18:45

No they didn't choose to have a grandchild at all, they have had their children and they didn't ask you to give them a grandchild. So no not in the slightest, are they abit Dickish for not wanting to see their grandchild. Yes

TurkeyBear · 07/11/2018 18:46

No. They don't. He was a grown adult. His mess is not theirs. YABU Op.

ZenNudist · 07/11/2018 18:49

I cant see why your reproduction choices are their responsibility.

Do they even get on with their son? Presumably not if he left the country.

ohreallyohreallyoh · 07/11/2018 18:53

I think my ex’s mum was dreadfully embarrassed by the whole sordid affair he had had and really didn’t know what to say to me. She didn’t Have the money to help us out. I never expected it really although if she had been well off, I think I would probably feel,differently.

SillySallySingsSongs · 07/11/2018 18:55

Sorry but no they don't have any responsibility. Do you know if they are even in contact with him?

Sparkingfizzing · 07/11/2018 18:57

Nope. It would be nice if they did want more to do with your child but it's his/yours, not theirs.

If they didn't want much to do with your child while your ex was about, it isn't a surprise that they don't when he's gone.

Jlynhope · 07/11/2018 18:57

If my son had a child and took no responsibility for it I would see that as a failure on my part to instil morals

My dad id a narcissistic asshole. He had lovely parents and lovely siblings. I never hold them responsible for his failures.
Have you tried to talk to them? What was your relationship with them like prior to him leaving?

Bestseller · 07/11/2018 19:01

I don't think they bear any financial responsibilty, beyond being absolutely furious with their son and doing what they can to make him see the error of his ways.

It would be nice if they made an effort to keep in touch and offer practical support but I think most people in their shoes would take the lead from the mother.

RomanyRoots · 07/11/2018 19:02

I wouldn't have encouraged a relationship with these people, I'm sorry but they are gps.
I think they have a moral financial obligation tbh, but doesn't look like they are interested.
I'd have cut contact a long time ago, but think you have been amazing to do this for your ds.
But, he isn't going to get anything from this family, the apple doesn't fall far in this situation.
Your ds is getting nothing out of it, except for an ipad. I'm sure he'd prefer cuddles, love, and interest from them.

NailsNeedDoing · 07/11/2018 19:03

No, I don't think thy have a responsibility, especially not a responsibility to pay for things like extra tuition or swimming lessons Confused

Leeds2 · 07/11/2018 19:09

They could, possibly, think that you are prejudiced against them/don't want to see them. Although personally, this wouldn't stop me making contact/sending birthday and Christmas presents which I would assume was acceptable (provided you/DC had sent a thank you for the first one, so that a I would know it was ok to continue).
Also bear in mind that your Ex may have told all sorts of lies about what you have said about them, and they will probably believe him.
I am surprised though that the sister with whom you are in contact doesn't ask them round when you are visiting her. Could you maybe ask her to ask them next time you go to her house?

choli · 07/11/2018 19:11

Nope. The responsibility belongs to the badly chosen father and to you.

I see there is one sister an hour's drive away who has come to see the child 3 times. Have you ever taken the child to see her, or is it a one way street?

Jlynhope · 07/11/2018 19:16

When the grandparents took the kids for a half term, or bought them an ipad did you contact them?

RiverTam · 07/11/2018 19:16

I see what you’re saying - you’d think that the parents of the man who’s fucked off leaving you and their GDC high and dry would feel like they should help out however they can. I can’t imagine not helping out my GDC if they were struggling financially for whatever reason, but especially if it was my offspring who’d been so feckless.

But perhaps they’re as crap as their son. Which is a shame for their GDC.

Number12 · 07/11/2018 19:20

Yes I do think they have some responsibility. My brother had an affair and my family immediately took to help and support his partner. If my son did this I would definitely offer help and support. They are after all family, they didn't ask to have a shit of a father. I would want to be in my grandchilds life. My other thought is perhaps they are embarrassed but that doesn't explain their behavior really.

No they didn't ask to be grandparents but lets be honest when we have our our children we know there is a bloody good chance that there will be grandkids!! You don't just cut off all responsibility there. How many people here would cut all ties with grandchildren and mother just because you didn't ask for the responsibility...

Dollymixture22 · 07/11/2018 19:22

I think morally they should treat all their grandchildren the same. Christmas, birthdays etc should all be equal.

I think they should be ashamed of their son - even if they think he is paying child support they know he is totally absent physically in his child’s life.

But people are strange, we epxect them to behave as we would - step up and do the right thing - and it’s hard to understand why they wouldn’t

madmum5811 · 07/11/2018 19:22

I adore my grandchildren they are a part of the family no matter what happens between their parents, so I would continue to be there for them

TravelBlues · 07/11/2018 19:28

I’m not sure how I would even approach them after all this time.

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Missingstreetlife · 07/11/2018 19:29

My friend disowned her son and keeps in touch with ex and grandkids, that may be a bit extreme

Missingstreetlife · 07/11/2018 19:32

Write to them, go thru the sister, visit with her, or just with dc. I think it's up to you to have some minimal relationship with family members and facilitate contact if they are interested

sue51 · 07/11/2018 19:39

I can't understand the mentality and lack of morality of any grandparent who would walk away from a child in the circumstances you describe. I am a grandparent and see it as my duty and pleasure to support my grandchild emotionally and if required, financially.