To not give my neighbour my WiFi password?

[SneakyGremlins]

Neighbour has since he's lived in his flat been using BT WiFi (free) FOn? - with a username and password left by previous tenants. This has now stopped working, and he's been moaning about it - and is now starting to badger me about me giving him the password to mine - not offering to pay towards it or anything.

AIBU to say no? It's not the fastest as it is, and someone else streaming films/downloading films (which he says is "all he wants it for" will slow it down even more.

Our NDNs wifi wasn't working one night a few months ago and they had something they had to submit online by a certain time, so she came over to our house, used her laptop to submit the piece of work (i was sat beside), thanked us profusely and then left. I changed the password so it wouldn't be possible to be accessed anymore, and next day she brought us a little box of chocolates for thanks. That in my opinion is a normal level of helping each other out!
Is NDN older? Perhaps point him in the right direction towards his own internet package

I'm not sure he knows someone has to pay!

OK, so ask him. Assume an innocent expression and say 'How are we managing the cost between us?' Then watch him backtrack.

BT fon is free if you have BT broadband yourself. All bt modems have a "separate" channel which can be accessed by others. So if you're with BT and yours goes down - you can piggy back on someone else's router using your own login/password. Nothing you download will affect the speed of the "giver" nor will it come back on them

This is why when you're out and about your phone might tell you that BT fon is available. It's just the WiFi signal from someone's house.

But, given he is using someone elses password he is still piggybacking their provision!

Never do this.

I'll make up something technical about limits and my account not allowing it to be shared

I'll make up something technical about limits and my account not allowing it to be shared

Why make things up? Just 'No.' is enough.

"I'm ever so sorry but no, you cheeky twat"

Then throw the router at him.

Why not just say no?! Man up-don’t be a door mat.

Why do you care what some random neighbour thinks lol?

Tell him no and suggest he gets his own broadband contract.

No need to make anything up about your account Gremlins.
Why do you feel you have to protect him from the simple truth?

It's not your responsibility to protect the feelings of someone who is attempting to take advantage of you!

Making up an excuse just means you end up getting involved in a whole load of convoluted lies which are completely unnecessary and make you look bad when it unravels. Just say no.

Okay, I'll just say no

Change your WiFi name to "fuck off you cheap bastard" 🙈 or just say no

@thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter, That killed me. I had to download it.

@AdaColeman and @NRPDad are right OP. It's not ok that he's asked you this and you don't owe him nor anyone else this at all. Nor to soften your answer of No , I won't do that don't ask again.

Look, it's not even just about the cost and ruining of your internet speeds.

If he (a single man living alone that you don't know well) downloads or looks at illegal content it can be traced to your external IP address /broadand provider.

When PPs were saying earlier that they can find out it wasn't you after all, let me tell you how that works in practice... Police execute a warrant at your address in your name after getting details from your provider. They seize all your electronics (mobiles, laptops, game consoles, hard drives with all your family photos) so you are without them all that time. It can take 6-12 months for their technical team to download it all and for police officers in case you search it. It's very labour intensive and intrusive. ( I know local police safeguarding teams that do it! )

I know you're going to say No to him anyway, but for the abjce reason, you can see it's beyond risky that anyone would be sensible to agree with someone they don't know nor trust explicitly, even for sharing costs.
Don't apologize for saying no to such a CF request, you do not owe anyone this, even if he had entirely redecorated your blipping flat!

Sorry @SneakyGremlins cross posted! Good xxx
Never let anyone guilt you into something you are uncomfortable with. Pack of beer is reasonable for DIY help, not access to your life & WiFi!!

I'll happily point him towards how to get his own but mine is staying mine.

Wow some people appear to not read updates!!!

@SneakyGremlins

sorry to side track, but thank you thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter , I had to steal that diagram for dd who is studying for a psych midterm and just had me discussing self actualization/self transcendence.

So true - Wifi has become the new base need. The look on everyone's face when we walk into a hotel room and they can't see the Wifi pw posted anywhere...

My CF sil borrowed her ndn password to use just the one........ She sat laughing to me saying we've been using it for the past three years

Good god, no. I know someone who spent the night in police cells because his name was on a house share wifi and someone else used it to harass and stalk someone else.

'I think it'd just be too complicated to work out the costs and the payment between us so I'll leave it thanks' [big über-friendly smile] Then quickly change the subject.

Ann Dixon, a woman in your own right. Brilliant book on assertiveness