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A woman rammed me with her trolly today

75 replies

mayaknew · 28/10/2018 13:18

I had the dcs to the supermarket this morning doing the food shopping. They were acting up a bit and I was stressed and harassed with them.

I was trying to get 2yo dd into the trolly and must have been blocking the trolly bay. I happened to glance at my side and saw a woman trying to get her trolly back. I said oh sorry and turned to dd to keep trying to get her in the trolly and the woman made a noise I can't even describe as a tut it was more of a growl, then proceeded to walk into the trolly bay regardless of the space she had to do so. It knocked my forwards into dd who was knocked into the trolly.

WIBU to put dd into the trolly whilst still inside the bay? I know i was in her way and I was trying to get dd into the trolly as fast as I could.

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corythatwas · 28/10/2018 14:03

So how would you define assault Year if it isn't ramming heavy metal object into somebody with enough force to send them flying (as per the OP)? This sounds to me like about the same level of force as punching them one- so presumably that isn't assault either?

SchadenfreudeUndeadified · 28/10/2018 14:03

Doesn't matter if what you did was unreasonable or not really. Her reaction was fucking disgraceful.

THIS ^

You may have been a bit thoughtless, but that doesn't excuse what was a deliberate and vindictive assault - made even worse by the fact that you had a small child with you who could also have been hurt or frightened.

BrendasUmbrella · 28/10/2018 14:03

I hope your dd is okay. Yes, you were slightly U, but she was very U. Beyond unreasonable actually to ram a mother and child with her trolley, she's a nasty piece of work.

Slumberparty · 28/10/2018 14:04

Did you say anything to her? Yes slightly annoying for her but she would hardly have to wait long. She's a bitch and assaulted you. I probably would have asked her what the fuck she thought she was doing??

Maelstrop · 28/10/2018 14:08

Yes, it is assault. Common assault, an arrestable offence, is even laying a finger on someone else, literally. Ramming a trolley into someone is definitely assault. I think you’re confusing it with GBH, maybe? DH is police.

Definition of common assault:

‘This is the least serious assault. It is not at all uncommon for more serious assault charges to be reduced to common assault in "plea-bargaining" by prosecutors to avoid the additional expense of a Crown Court trial should the defendant elect for same. In real terms, the degree of fear or the level of injury required for a conviction can be unproven. No injury is required to prove battery‘

WorraLiberty · 28/10/2018 14:09

She was rude

You were in an awkward place

Unless your DD was actually hurt (and you haven't said she was), I'd pay it no more thought.

mayaknew · 28/10/2018 14:09

Yeah she's fine she bumped against the side of the trolley but she didn't get hurt thankfully.

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WorraLiberty · 28/10/2018 14:09

Loving the typical OTT Mumsnet reactions though Grin

passivesmoking · 28/10/2018 14:12

I always wait until I'm in the shop with space around me to put dc in trolley, specifically so I don't block the trolley bay or entrance. However, she was being far more unreasonable to do that.

Pinkblanket · 28/10/2018 14:12

What she did was totally unaware, but it does drive me potty when people stand around faffing about Infront of the trolley bay when they could just move a couple of metres. It's particularly bad at Aldi as that's the only place to get a trolley.

PawPawNoodle · 28/10/2018 14:22

Not the point of the thread but I don't get how there wasn't enough space for her to put her trolley away? Aren't trolley correls usually 2 wide?

YearOfYouRemember · 28/10/2018 14:32

Cory - what you have written brings up a different tale than what the OP said.

Just think one should be wary of making someone a victim when it's something they will - or should - have shaken off very quickly. Not agonise over for ages. Life's hard enough.

Rudgie47 · 28/10/2018 14:40

In future put your daughter in the main bit of the trolley then move to the side and then sort her out.
Yes she was wrong to barge you out of the way, but you were faffing about and making people wait. If she was in a rush she should have asked you to move please. It was very rude what she did, that's how fights start.

BrokenWing · 28/10/2018 14:48

When you saw someone was waiting, yes, you should have just taken your dd and trolley and moved out of the way instead of just saying sorry and then turning your back to them and messing about with your dd again knowing they were still waiting with you blocking their way.

But she should not have been rude either and she especially should not have been aggressive.

Either way, its done, no one is hurt so no need to worry about it now.

DontdoitDoris · 28/10/2018 14:50

Nasty behaviour
Does no one remember the elderly man who died after being rammed with a trolley in M&S ?
Shes lucky she didnt injure you or your DD .

jarhead123 · 28/10/2018 14:52

You'd have annoyed me too tbh but her reaction was U

Racecardriver · 28/10/2018 14:55

For future here is a tip. Pick up your dad and rest her bottom on the trolley handle whilst you wheel your he trolley out of the way.

Re the growling lady. I have never heard someone do this in really life but this is at least the fourth time I’ve heard about a growning woman on mn. I can’t but yelp imagine there us some strange woman somewhere going around growling at people.

Andro · 28/10/2018 14:56

I'd rather a parent toddler-wrangled in the most effective way possible, as opposed to their child taking off and getting hurt/causing an accident. OP, you did what you thought was best and safest at the time, the other woman was beyond unreasonable.

Racecardriver · 28/10/2018 14:57

@year @cory assault is unlawful touching (including touching with an object). This was definitely assault. Battery I would say.

ConfusedMum82 · 28/10/2018 14:59

Sorry but it is common assault and yes the Police would listen. What's next, someone not getting their shopping in their car fast enough and this unhinged violent woman runs them over as they were faffing?
Someone hitting someone else hard with a metal trolley is assault. It was unprovoked.
And yes, the Police would indeed look into it, it involved a child, who despite not being hurt, could've fallen out of the trolley instead of inside it.

MyKingdomForBrie · 28/10/2018 15:03

Seriously on what planet is it unreasonable to take a minute in a trolley bay. How have we come to a position where we think it's unacceptable having to wait one minute for the person before us to finish their business before it's our turn?

ree348 · 28/10/2018 15:11

Disgusting behaviour on her part!

MeteorMedow · 28/10/2018 15:15

You saw her waiting and muttered ‘sorry’ then turned back and continued trying to get DD into the trolley- whilst continuing to block the woman!

If you were sorry for blocking her you’d have grabbed DD and the trolley and moved but you didn’t. I’d interpret that as you not really giving a monkeys and being very rude.

I see parents doing shit like this ALL the time, just because you’re tired and they’re challenging does not make it anyone else’s problem or give you the right to be a selfish arse!

Today DP and I nipped into ASDA it was rammed and woman behind us at the tills had 3 kids all acting up! Turned her back to deal with one and immediately the eldest (5-6) rammed their trolley (very hard and without warning) straight into my stomach (what if I were pregnant?) and then totally blocked DP from getting anywhere near the chip and pin payment. (Narrow isle so couldn’t intervene - if I’d moved the trolley would have knocked the kid on his butt- then probably been blamed!)

We tried to get womans attention but nothing- too busy with screaming child. Ended in the cashier having to shout at her! She then got all offended and upset with the cashier! I quickly told her exactly what her eldest had just done to me, at which point the woman just looked upset and mumbled an apology.

Your children are nobody else’s problem and if they act up in a way that causes insult or (god forbid) injury to others - that’s firmly on you! If you cannot handle them don’t inflict that on everyone else!

itsbritneybiatches · 28/10/2018 15:29

What did you say to her after she rammed you?

I'd of rammed it straight back at her and asked her if she was fucking messing.

howabout · 28/10/2018 15:42

YANBU

I'd of rammed it straight back at her and asked her if she was fucking messing.

Absolutely this

Really really not going to get out of anyone's way quicker by wrangling an uncooperative toddler plus trolley in any direction through the impatient people barging behind rather than just getting on with strapping them in the trolley.

(May be less tolerant than normal of "busy" people today having encountered a shed load of them self-importantly slumming it in Lidl today)