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Aibu to ask if social anxiety disorder 'makes you break the law'

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Konoha · 27/10/2018 18:01

Relative has Social Anxiety and Depression. Lot's going on with her, won't bore w ith details.
She's always had minor scrapes with authority and whatnot, some would say it was a bit o f rebellion, HOWEVER, a month or so ago she was put in a cell overnight for beating a police officer up, biting another, and smashing another policemans head off his car bonnet whe n he tried to restrain her.
Heard her laughing about it the other day saying ' My social anxiety makes me behave like this'. Im not an expert, but I smell a bit of bs. Aibu for calling her out on this?

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WorraLiberty · 27/10/2018 18:07

Of course you're not Confused

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Thisreallyisafarce · 27/10/2018 18:08

I wouldn't 'call her out', I would cut her out.

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Aprilsinparis · 27/10/2018 18:08

No, it does not! She is using it as an excuse to behave in a socially unacceptable manner! She needs a prison sentence, she'll soon calm down.

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SnuggyBuggy · 27/10/2018 18:10

It sounds like a bit more than just social anxiety disorder.

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Dodie66 · 27/10/2018 18:10

I think if you had social anxiety you would be totally different to that. In fact it would stop some people goi g out at all

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CherryPavlova · 27/10/2018 18:10

It’s not anxiety, it’s assault. It’s not depression, it’s delinquency.

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Bumbledop · 27/10/2018 18:11

I’m just wondering if she’s using alcohol in order to cope with her social anxiety? This could then cause her to behave so badly? Just wondering ......

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Konoha · 27/10/2018 18:12

I seem to be the only one in my family that sees this as an issue. I'd use the word 'extort' (maybe con) in what she's doing to elderly relatives. She gets a lot of financial help from family members for things like cosmetic surgery, cars, holidays etc, as she says ' (she) does these things because she's low in herself... If only I had X I'd be ok'.
she also said she 'didn't have a normal teenage lifestyle, so she's doing this now to get it out of her system'. She's thirty.

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Konoha · 27/10/2018 18:13

Bumbledop the last time I seen her she was drinking A LOT. She also uses a tonne of prescribed/non prescribed drugs.

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Bombardier25966 · 27/10/2018 18:15

I was wondering if alcohol is a factor, perhaps as self medication.

Anxiety can make some people act out, but there's generally an underlying issue there that causes extremes of moods.

Or she might just be a thoroughly unpleasant person.

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LIZS · 27/10/2018 18:15

Poor impulse control might cause violent reactions but not a sustained level of poor behaviour. Does she seek help and support? Any alcohol or substance abuse perhaps? She sounds manipulative and in self denial.

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MacosieAsunter · 27/10/2018 18:15

All you'll get here is armchair psychiatrists. However lashing out may be common

www.nhs.uk/Conditions/social-anxiety/

Support groups
There are several charities, support groups and online forums for people with social anxiety and other anxiety disorders, including:
Anxiety UK
a HealthUnlocked anxiety forum run by Anxiety Support
Mind and YoungMinds
Social Anxiety UK, who also have an online forum
Anxiety Alliance
Triumph Over Phobia (TOP UK)

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Pickwickpapers · 27/10/2018 18:16

Maybe she was joking but anyways she can't use it as an excuse for anti-social and abusive behaviour and not really something to be made light of. She probably needs help with anger management more than anything else. Definitely say something to her if she says anything directly to you.

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sadeyedladyofthelowlands63 · 27/10/2018 18:16

I have a (diagnosed) anxiety disorder. It has never once made me break the law or assault anyone.

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Konoha · 27/10/2018 18:17

bombardier I do believe she's depressed, I agree that she has something diagnosed going on, what I can't stand is that she seems to use it as a literal get out of jail free card. I feel like she uses it to manipulate people. I really don't have a good understanding on mental health, so I could be just an arsehole lol.

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Redglitter · 27/10/2018 18:20

Anxiety or not I hope they throw the book at her for her disgusting behaviour

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Weezol · 27/10/2018 18:24

If medically diagnosed it could possibly be used as mitigation at trial/sentencing.
Has she got a proper clinical diagnosis?

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Angelf1sh · 27/10/2018 18:26

No.

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Konoha · 27/10/2018 18:29

weezol she says she does. She's been on anti-depressants since her teens, and she started seeing drs then for anxiety, and suicidal thoughts that kind of thing. I've never asked for proof lol.

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Bombardier25966 · 27/10/2018 18:31

Those with borderline personality disorder can be seen by others as manipulative, as well as having mood dysregulation. It's very difficult to get appropriate support for it on the NHS.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/borderline-personality-disorder/

I'm not sure this kind of thread is helpful. No one here can say what condition she has (if she has one at all), or if her condition is contributing to her behaviour. Equally no one can say that her condition is not having a negative effect on her behaviour.

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Howhot · 27/10/2018 18:32

Was she drunk?

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Konoha · 27/10/2018 18:38

She weren't drunk when she attacked the police officers. They were called out on her because she was fighting with her next door neighbour.

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tillytrotter1 · 27/10/2018 21:24

Sounds like another 'get out of jail card free' to me. The number of people who commit crimes but have 'mental issues' so are dealt with leniently is ridiculous.

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AiryFairyUnicornRainbow · 27/10/2018 22:40

she was put in a cell overnight for beating a police officer up, biting another, and smashing another policemans head off his car bonnet whe n he tried to restrain her

If this happened, she will be going to jail soon

You are describing someone who has a mental health issue. Typical behaviours are bad budgeting, self medicating with alcohol, drugs, buying themselves things to 'make themselves feel better'...these are all typical signs of a serious mental health issue

However if what you say happened, she will be in prison in the near future

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AiryFairyUnicornRainbow · 27/10/2018 22:42

The number of people who negatively judge mental health conditions, because they do not understand them (not their fault) is HUGE.

It is easier to walk away and call someone an arsehole, than it is to get involved, help, and realise their is an issue

Easier for us all to take the simple route, justify it to ourselves tht the other person is in fact, a 'wrong un' rather than actually ILL...and walk away.

You can see why a lot of mentally ill people end up taking their own life or end up very lonely

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