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Whorebag posse thread 3

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Thenewdoctor · 19/10/2018 14:00

So what think we of overlap?

I think emotional affair and that to me is far worse than a quick physical shag, even if it wasn’t on a concrete garage floor.

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lornar123 · 19/10/2018 14:18

Lol. I wouldn't call it an emotional affair I had my head turned and I ended my current relationship to pursue the next one. Luckily it worked out but I took time to know I was sure before is slept with him.

But actually a good example, since there was no breach of trust, just a dumping none of you would bother about getting dumped ? You would not experience longing or envy etc.

Someone asked I clarify what I meant about saying I do not trust people who do not physically distinguish between people they love and people they do not love ? It's because you can't read anything into their behaviour or actions, as simple as that.

Thenewdoctor · 19/10/2018 14:20

Head turned = emotional affair.

That’s minimising. Again.

Your sentence made no sense and still doesn’t.

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Thenewdoctor · 19/10/2018 14:21

I physically distinguish people I love and people I don’t when I look at them. I can tell them apart by their faces.

My kids, mr FTF, my wider friends and family. I physically distinguish them by how they look.

You are literally making no sense.

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lornar123 · 19/10/2018 14:38

If you kiss, caress, fondle, have all kinds of sex with people you don't love, as well as people you do love, then how can the recipient read any meaning into your actions or behaviour ? They obviously can't.

It was not an emotional affair, I saw the possibility of one and the desire to get to know someone better, I agonised for a week or two and took the decision to end my current relationship. I then actively pursued a relationship with someone else I liked. Whats the big deal ?

Thenewdoctor · 19/10/2018 14:40

Overlap is how you described it not anyone else.

Meaning is read once you become monogamous. Until that point there is none.

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Thenewdoctor · 19/10/2018 14:41

How did you kno your potential new sex partner was going to be better than your current and you the best he had ever had at the point you ended it?

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lornar123 · 19/10/2018 14:44

I felt an intense connection towards him, so I had good reason to believe it. He also told me he had never get this way about anyone else etc.

Did my clarification make sense to you ?

lornar123 · 19/10/2018 14:45

*never felt.

Thenewdoctor · 19/10/2018 14:46

No.

And it clearly isn’t working out for you or you wouldn’t have overlap and he wouldn’t have cheated.

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lornar123 · 19/10/2018 14:47

I would still like to know why you would think someone incapable of longing for something they no longer have and missing that is emotionally unhealthy compared to someone who has never experienced longing in their life ? (That was Jacques btw, but I feel you agreed with her)

Thenewdoctor · 19/10/2018 14:48

I never said that.

You will have to take that up with Jacques.

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lornar123 · 19/10/2018 14:48

What do you not understand about the physical expression bit ?

Thenewdoctor · 19/10/2018 14:49

It makes no sense. The sentence you wrote makes no grammatical sense in the English language.

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Thenewdoctor · 19/10/2018 14:50

I don't trust people who do not distinguish physically between people they to love not to love.

That’s what you actually said.

Please can you explain how that sentence makes any kind of sense. Is English your first language?

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lornar123 · 19/10/2018 14:55

It does so, but let me try again.

If there is no difference in your physical interaction with a man whom you do not love, and a man you do love, how can either man read anything about how you feel ?

This is again misty aimed at Jacques, but she can have frequent sexual interaction involving all the usual kissing etc with men she doesn't care about at all and men she does.

You can't know anything about how such a person feels about you from the things they like to or want to do with you.

I cant explain it anymore clearly so if that doesn't clarify we'll have to leave it.

Thenewdoctor · 19/10/2018 14:55

They to love not to love

Is nonsense.

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lornar123 · 19/10/2018 14:57

Yes it's a typo. Hopefully it makes more sense above.

Thenewdoctor · 19/10/2018 14:58

Also to distinguish people physically is what you do when you look at them.

If you mean you don’t trust people who don’t distinguish between the physical act of sex with those they love and those they don’t - that’s not what you said.

The physical act of sex is a physical act. I distinguish what I do with the people I love differently, with things some of which are sexual, some of which are non-sexual and none, really, are about the physical act of sex in and of itself.

I explained that to you already.

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Thenewdoctor · 19/10/2018 15:00

Also by “people you love” I assume you don’t mean your kids, family?

Because that’s where you don’t get it, I think. Not everyone has to be “in love” to do the physical act of sex.

I certainly didn’t the first time I shagged Mr FTF because we hadn’t dated that long and love, true deep and meaningful love, takes time.

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lornar123 · 19/10/2018 15:04

Well as long as you and Mr FTF are happy that is fine. The trouble I had understanding your statement is that you clearly do think the physical act of sex, is at least at times a way to express love. Presumably you would want your partner to feel that. My point is simply that I would have a hard time trusting there was any expression in the act at all, given its changeful meaning to you.

Thenewdoctor · 19/10/2018 15:05

But I’ve told you.
The meaning comes for me after we have decided to be monogamous.

What part of that aren’t you getting?

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lornar123 · 19/10/2018 15:06

I don't understand that at all, genuinely. Sorry.

Thenewdoctor · 19/10/2018 15:09

Then you’re never going to get it and the whole threads and threads have been pointless.

If I imbued sex as the physical act of love with the importance you do, I wouldn’t be with Mr FTF because he can’t always get it up.

To me love is about much much more than the physical act of sex.

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lornar123 · 19/10/2018 15:11

It makes no sense because you don't start liking someone more when they say let's be exclusive. I mean the day before and the day after that conversation can't have seen a massive emotional shift.

Thenewdoctor · 19/10/2018 15:14

What?

What does liking them more have to do with shagging them.
You shag them because you think they’re hot and might be a good fuck. And you figure it out when you do the shagging. And thence whether they’re getting a second shag.

The shagging is just to give them a trial on the sex front. It’s all the rest that adds up to make a relationship. As I explained. Before. More than once.

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