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Esther McVey’s response to Frank Field

48 replies

curious2 · 15/10/2018 20:57

Frank Field asks her to come and meet the women in his constituency who have been forced into prostition due to Universal Credit and the concurrent loss to their income.

She then tells him to let these women know about work coaches and the various charities and organisations that can help them.

Not only that - he should point them in the direction of all the new jobs which are now on offer.

Angry

Completely bypassing the fact that UC is forcing already working people into worse poverty, and that people don’t need work coaches, they need better paying jobs and cheaper housing. Failing that, they need their monthly support not to be slashed.

Angry

Additionally, why is the government abdicating its responsibility to charities - laudable as they are.

What a soulless, horrible woman.

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Bombardier25966 · 15/10/2018 21:04

She's known as McVile for good reason.

I can't find anything good to say about her. Her policies cause endless harm and she has the audacity to stand up in Parliament and telling outright lies.

If a UC claimant went to the Jobcentre and lied they'd be sanctioned, they'd be left without a penny. When she lies it's laughed off and she continues in her job.

I don't know what is happening to this country anymore.

Bombardier25966 · 15/10/2018 21:08

Additionally, why is the government abdicating its responsibility to charities - laudable as they are.

At the same time withdrawing funding from said charities.

Jack65 · 15/10/2018 21:14

Just a correction on the above. It is the Conservative party's ideology that thought up UC and EMcVey is carrying out their policy, rather than her own policy. I believe it was dreamt up by Iain Duncan Smith was it not? And it is vile.

lovelychops · 15/10/2018 21:17

She's a repulsive woman. I keep thinking the Tories can't sink any lower... then things like this keep happening

curious2 · 15/10/2018 21:20

EMcVey is carrying out their policy, rather than her own policy

I know, they all parrot the same awful policies.

She showed no compassion however, nothing. Not even a “that must be so hard”.

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BishyBarneyBee3 · 15/10/2018 21:21
Angry
Fuzzywig · 15/10/2018 21:22

I posted a lta petition a few days ago. I hope it’s ok to link it here.

Esther McVey has stated that Universal Credit will leave some families £200 worse off.

Please sign the petition.

There is also the option to send EMcV a tweet after signing.

Thank you

speakout.38degrees.org.uk/campaigns/4432?utm_source=email&utm_medium=blast&utm_campaign=12_10_2018_unviersalcredit_petition_flsend&bucket=email-blast-12_10_2018_unviersalcredit_petition_flsend

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 15/10/2018 21:23

Yes the Tories are vile. They keep getting voted back in though, don't they.
I thought that McVile cunt had crawled under a rock. Why is she back on the scene.

Truckit · 15/10/2018 21:23

FF is ace. Love him.

Truckit · 15/10/2018 21:39

FF is ace. Love him.

HelenaDove · 15/10/2018 21:43

i started a thread about this on the Feminism board.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3395546-Universal-Credit-driving-women-to-prostitution

ForalltheSaints · 15/10/2018 22:00

Frank Field has a long and distinguished record of highlighting and campaigning about poverty.

Esther McVey is a former downmarket breakfast tv presenter and apparently a friend of someone who went out to dinner leaving their pre-school age children unattended.

I know whose views I would sooner take note of.

curious2 · 15/10/2018 22:37

Here is McVey’s response.

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HelenaDove · 16/10/2018 00:15

Im sorry but when a woman is desperate and has the choice of a no security zero hours "job" or the chance to earn some money ACTUAL money quickly because she and her kids are being threatened with eviction and cant feed her kids because food has run out which do they think she is going to choose. In all honesty FFS!

ProudAunty2nine · 16/10/2018 02:33

Hate Iain D Smith with a passion, I am certain he would open work houses if he could

Mcvey just as bad can't bear the sight or sound of her

Frank Field complete opposite end of the scale a decent compassionate human being

AlmaGeddon · 16/10/2018 03:37

Perhaps cutting benefits will help subsidise the nhs. There must be a reason for doing this otherwise the conservatives have a death wish and will be voted out of office for it. Esther mcvey is implementing gov policy initiated by IDS but let's not let that get in the way of a hate evil bitches whinge. Let's not be grown up and ask why the gov is doing this ( probably money saving so it can be used elsewhere - housebuilding, nhs, etc etc etc) let's just bleat and hate the tories despite the fact that the Labour Party never rescind these type of policies when they get into power.

curious2 · 16/10/2018 05:04

Why do people always make the assumption that if you don’t vote Tory you must vote Labour.

Clearly the government is not putting the saved money towards the NHS Confused.

Who knows what they are doing with it - bribing the DUP, paying the security for Trump’s visit, things like that. “Balancing the books”.

The point is that if they want to move money around, they shouldn’t be taking it from the most vulnerable people.

Esther mcvey is implementing gov policy initiated by IDS but let's not let that get in the way of a hate evil bitches whinge

It’s not a hate evil bitches whinge - she came across as having little compassion, and I was shocked by her glib response. She could have said any number of other things in response to Frank Field. And saying that he should tell these women about all the new “jobs” that have been created is stupid, and a downright slap in the face.

I don’t see what the fact that she is a woman has to do with it. Plenty of male politicians are pretty awful, Jacob Rees-Mogg for one Angry, but Frank Field wasn’t asking them the question.

I will read your thread Helena, and sign the petition Fuzzywig.

It’s true what I read somewhere - lots of people in government probably have no notion what the predicted average loss of £52 a week by many families receiving UC might feel like, because for them it’s just spare change.

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AlmaGeddon · 16/10/2018 05:16

Who knows what they are doing with it

Whatever they are doing it all comes out of the one pot.

Rosehip10 · 16/10/2018 06:26

Anyone who votes Tory should hang their heads in shame.

Fuzzywig · 16/10/2018 06:35

Thank you curious2

Neshoma · 16/10/2018 08:12

But if there are job vacancies that need to be filled what good would coming to visit them do. She could give them an extra £50 a week but it wouldn't fill the jobs nor provide the women with a sense of achievement in working.

curious2 · 16/10/2018 09:04

If those vacancies were available where the women live, and if they weren’t already working full time, they would have taken them up.

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IAcceptCookies · 16/10/2018 09:14

Odius odius woman. And her partner, MP Philip Davies
Davies is known for opposing political correctness and feminism and is a campaigner for the men's rights movement. He played a lead role in securing the first International Men's Day debate in Parliament in 2015; the debate has since taken place annually

How could any educated, professional woman want to be with such a man?

IAcceptCookies · 16/10/2018 09:14

That was from Wikipedia, by the way.

LilMy33 · 16/10/2018 09:30

I don’t always agree with FF but he knows his area (as do I) so if he says this is happening it is.