TA salary

[ionising]

I live in a North Eastern market town. A few years ago I was a TA only level 3 so not a HLTA. I earnt 23k PA. level 2 salary was around 21k and Level 1 around 18k.

My friend down south says she earnt 12k as a TA. Really?

I thought it was meant to be grim up North.

Level 3 TA from Co Durham here. For the last 2 years of done 32 hours and got around 11k. Think I need to move to Darlo

I was a TA in 2005-2007, zone 2 London. Huge secondary. I was on 14K pa. I took home £988 a month. Given that I was only 20 at the time, it wasn’t that bad but no jeffing way could I live on that now. I have friends who do though and I don’t know how given that a flatshare is about 600-800pcm all in.

Looks like Darlo is the place to be!

It was voted 7th best place to live in 2015. Maybe this is why.😂

I have to name change now

NE here too - we pay approx £14k for a 30 hour week. I have heard of TAs being paid much more BUT they’ve all been made redundant/restructured.
We do not ask for any qualifications though or really any experience.

Manchester here. It’s about £13000 at our school for the entry level TA.

Where I live T As are only paid for 27 hours per week, not paid for lunch hour and only paid from 9am despite the kids starting earlier!!!!!

The pay is around £11,000 per year and they are expected to increase exam results the same as teachers are.
I have never heard of any TA being paid anywhere near the same amount as the op.

I'm down south and work in a special school as a HLTA for 30hrs a week, I earn just under £13,000 before pension and insurance. Before that I was a normal TA and earned around £8,000 for 22.5 hours a week.

I’m a TA in a juniors in Hampshire. 25 hours a week and take home about £900 a month.
Have HLTA status but not currently in a hlta post as school apparently didn’t have the budget to pay HLTA money. Which is not a huge amount more!

Literacy and maths support in the morning, a 15 minute paid break and then an unpaid lunch hour. In the afternoons I plan and deliver targeted interventions to various groups. Occasionally take the class when in dire need but generally when they ask I refuse - they either pay me the HLTA rate or they can pay supply to do it.

I love my job but it’s horrible that everything has become about trying to shave pennies off of everything.
Our yeargroup has had one LSA for the yeargroup (3 classes) since September - me - because the other 2 quit in July and no one has been employed to take their place.
And they will be surprised in July when children haven’t met ARE.

Well, hasn’t research shown ta intervention harms rather than helps children’s progress?

Not trying to upset anybody but if I was a head I wouldn’t be pumping money into support staff.

I was on about £13.5k as a secondary LSA working a 37 hour week.

I've never seen such a high salary for TAs.

Well, hasn’t research shown ta intervention harms rather than helps children’s progress?

I doubt my 1:1 physics intervention and my oh 1:1 maths interventions harmed anyone.

After all as a private tutor at least £25 p/h would be charged.
The school was quite lucky actually, nobody went backwards.

Would also like to say, I don’t think the pay is bad for what I do, I took the job fully understanding that I get paid for 39 weeks of the year etc, negotiated the hours that worked for me enabling me to drop off and collect my son at the next door school and don’t go in during the holidays. It’s easy
Money on the whole for me - because I really enjoy it. Look forward to going in to work in the mornings and enjoy working with the children and seeing the make progress.

Haven’t read anything suggesting interventions are actually harmful but our school interventions don’t largely achieve a substantial amount of progress. Mainly because we have lots of SEND children and not enough training (if any in some cases) has been delivered to support the staff and enable them to use appropriate methods for the individual.

Crikey If I could make that much as a TA I wouldn't be desperately trying to find another job! I'm also on a grand a month 'up north'.

@honeyskye - yes research has shown that the number of TAs in a school corresponds with poorer outcomes, however this is due to the ways TAs are deployed in schools - in the cases where TA support is done well it has a positive impact.
The main problems found were more or less over reliance on a TA from a pupil, TAs giving answers so no independent work being done, teachers 'parking' kids with TAs so they dont get subject specialist input, social isolation... other stuff i cant remember right now. In effect the fact that the people who were the least qualified (in theory) were being expected to meet the needs of the most vulnerable pupils.

You can actually change this practice quite easily to make TA use effective. On the other hand it makes it extra annoying that you get paid shit all to do what is in many respects a skilled job often having to work with kids who ought to be getting the most specialist help.

I could be wrong but I thought the research was that having a ta in class doesn't improve results nothing to do with harming anything? I think we lighten teachers work loads so that they can concentrate on the children, if there was no tas who would deal with the low level disruption, minor falling outs, photo copying, displays etc you know all the stuff we do so the teachers can get on with the actual teaching!

The research showed that removing children from the classroom whilst maths/English was being taught and teaching my them separately, did not improve results. Keeping the children altogether and having a TA helping the entire class is beneficial.
I would hazard a guess that this was down to the teacher sending the TA out with the low ability, badly behaved children who were far more likely to be disruptive and not interested/struggle with learning.

If the low ability children are being sent elsewhere with a TA they are not actually being taught by a teacher which of course will impact on their results.

We aren’t allowed to take them out during the mornings when maths and literacy are being taught. We take them out in the afternoons to recap what has been taught and pick up on common misconceptions.
The teacher does not have time to do this since they are teaching the class all day.
It does mean that children miss out on science/art/RE/PE sometimes, though we timetable them carefully to ensure they only miss one session of each so they can catch up.
Plus it’s only a handful of children, not all of them.
Tough decision but ultimately literacy maths must come first.

Literacy AND maths

Nearly all of my timetable is teaching this year including Maths & English.
I cover PPA and do interventions individual and group. I’m a HLTA not a teacher. I trained as an NNEB Dip. And carried on training. I have 3 Level 4’s. It is a lot of work at home but teachers are working in the evenings too.

Ionising thanks for starting the thread it has been very interesting.