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TA salary

171 replies

ionising · 13/10/2018 14:11

I live in a North Eastern market town. A few years ago I was a TA only level 3 so not a HLTA. I earnt 23k PA. level 2 salary was around 21k and Level 1 around 18k.

My friend down south says she earnt 12k as a TA. Really?

I thought it was meant to be grim up North.

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Aragog · 13/10/2018 16:59

TAs training SLT? Very unusual.

Not here.

I am a subject lead (although a HLTA I was a teacher and have a specific subject specialism) and regularly train teachers, including slt, in that subject area.

All of our TAs undergo a lot of specific training in key interventions. As part of our staff meetings each week it is not uncommon for one of the TAs to be feeding back from these. It's also not uncommon for one of these TAs to be teaching another member of staff, including teachers, this intervention specialism.

EllenJanesthickerknickers · 13/10/2018 17:00

www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/media/1519657/support-staff-njc-green-book-pay-scales-grading-structure-2018-grades-b-l-april18.pdf

Different letter grades, maybe? Full time 37 hours a week term time only is still only 0.85 of salary.

Everyoneiswingingit · 13/10/2018 17:01

Been a TA for 10 years and never done planning, that's a qualified teacher's role. I deliver a teacher planned lesson on phonics and maths and English to groups on my own or in the classroom while the teacher teaches another group.
If I have to attend training outside of my hours, I claim the extra time. If I was expected to do work at home I think I'd retrain as a teacher because the pay is not enough.

Everyoneiswingingit · 13/10/2018 17:04

OP is this a Cover Supervisor role in a secondary school? That isn't what I am referring to as a TA .

wildbhoysmama · 13/10/2018 17:05

whichever pp said that she/he was paid to teach (as a TA) can you please clarify? I'm in Scotland and they are called PSAs here ( pupil support assistants) and whilst they do a phenomenal job and, I agree, are paid far too little ( which is why they are taking industrial action here as part of Unison on 23/24th Oct) they are not teachers and their job spec is nothing like a teacher.

mamapants · 13/10/2018 17:05

Nothing like that where I live either.
Level 1 is £16,500
Level 2: £17000-17900
Level 3: £18000-19500
Level 4: £20000-23000
These would all be pro rated for 39 weeks a year and most posts are 25-30 hrs
SEN schools get paid about £3k higher a year, pro rated.

EllenJanesthickerknickers · 13/10/2018 17:05

Your level 2 job advert is equivalent to a grade G here, which would be for special schools only. Primary schools maximum weekly hours is 25 and secondary it could be 37, if they did after school clubs and lunch time clubs etc. Your advert state term time only so that does mean the salary would be pro-rata and for 37 hours a week that's 85% of salary.

HellenaHandbasket · 13/10/2018 17:07

I took home around £750 p/m as a TA.

But it was a dead easy job tbh. 🙈

HellenaHandbasket · 13/10/2018 17:08

Grrr, that's meant to read £850

ionising · 13/10/2018 17:17

OP is this a Cover Supervisor role in a secondary school? That isn't what I am referring to as a TA .

No there were two covers in school though . I am not sure of their salary actually.

I don't have experience of primary TA jobs here. I just know the salaries are different.

We had 8 TAS in my school. All with different roles. Hours 8-4.

Again it's definitely not pro rata.

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ionising · 13/10/2018 17:18

Salaries are not different!

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MichonnesBBF · 13/10/2018 17:19

I live very close to the OP but not the same LA.
genuinely confused as to why some think 37 hours is a lot in primary?
I am a TA in a primary school working 8:30-4:30 every day and It is still possible to take some home occasionally.
I am the only first aid trained member of staff in my class
I run 2 intervention groups involving specialist training (my teacher would not have the first clue how to implement these)

I really do believe there is a lot of misunderstanding in the specific job roles of a TA, as there are so many variations grades/level's and expectations.

It is commonly misunderstood that we are 'Teacher's Assistants' when in fact we are 'Teaching Assistants', we do teach and take whole classes and sometimes are trained in areas that the teachers are not.

BuggerOffAndGoodDayToYou · 13/10/2018 17:19

I’m in a London borough and here a TA is grade 4. I’m in admin and at the top of grade 5, my hourly pay is less than £10.50. With my particular hours I don’t even earn enough to pay tax! Many of our TAs are also on benefits because the salary is so low but a neighbouring borough pays more, grade 5 there is nearly £12 per hour.

youarenotkiddingme · 13/10/2018 17:20

Round here cover supervisors in secondary schools are advertised as level 2 TA (grade C pay) which is take home C 12-14k a year before tax etc.

It's a crime imo. These roles used to be done by supply and children would be taught FT. I'm a ta and have nothing against TA but they are teaching assistants not cheap teachers to save the government cash!

It scares me that education is becoming a privilege and not a right on this country.

IceRebel · 13/10/2018 17:22

genuinely confused as to why some think 37 hours is a lot in primary?

37 hours in primary is very unusual these days in many LAs, as there just isn't the funding to have a TA for those sort of hours. Sad

Everyoneiswingingit · 13/10/2018 17:24

genuinely confused as to why some think 37 hours is a lot in primary?

School is open for 27.5 hrs of teaching(1 hr lunch break here) so couldn't work longer.

Everyoneiswingingit · 13/10/2018 17:25

So it's a secondary school? We don't have secondary TAs here.

ShawshanksRedemption · 13/10/2018 17:26

I do 30hrs a week, take home £780 pcm. Pro rata it is advertised at £15,627.

This is Kent's teaching pay scale:
www.kent-teach.com/Documents/Content/Kent%20Scheme%20Newsletter%202018-19.pdf

PurpleFlower1983 · 13/10/2018 17:27

At our school TAs work from 8.40am until 3pm with either 1 hour or 45 mins lunch, so around 27 hours.

JillianHoltzmann · 13/10/2018 17:29

When I did my l3 I was on £2.75 an hour I think, and after that I was on £7.05 which was the legal minimum wage for my age group. I live NW so it's probably more school-by-school

Donthugmeimscared · 13/10/2018 17:30

After taking out the holidays I get 10k a year.

MichonnesBBF · 13/10/2018 17:32

@IceRebel
yeah sorry I get that, I wrongly by the sounds of it, understood that statement meaning 'There is not enough for a primary TA to do, but plenty for a secondary'.

jmh740 · 13/10/2018 17:35

I'm in the north 30hrs a week 1:1 salary is just over 11k 25hrs as level 2 5 hrs as level 1.

MichonnesBBF · 13/10/2018 17:37

@everyoneiswingingit

TA's only get 1/2 hour dinners here un paid whilst the teachers get 1 hour but we still have to complete paper work and re-set up for following day.

Really beginning to think every LA has different job descriptions and expectations in what a TA's role actually is

Everyoneiswingingit · 13/10/2018 17:41

I don't have to set up for following day. Teacher gives me a week's planning. I prepare for each lesson in the morning (start 8.45 pay wise but get there at 8.30) so not sure what you need to 're-set up'.

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