Fatshaming

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After a conversation with friends, and with obesity (especially in young people) becoming a bigger crisis than smoking in our society, am I unreasonable to think that as we villanise smoking and drinking, should we fat shame more to encourage people to change their lifestyles. It's certainly worked with reducing smoking rates. Don't attack me (I've lost 2 stone). Just wondering why we target smoking more than fast food?

Were you fat-shamed, OP?

Indeed bluntness. I have to steer clear of the diet threads sometimes, depending on my mood. I can’t imagine how bad they could be from someone with an eating disorder.

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I don't think fat shaming is the answer but nor do I think we should be accepting of people who are obese.

Being obese is unhealthy. It is impossible to be obese and healthy, that's an oxymoron if there ever was one. Tbh I think the idea that being fat is okay is dangerous and that certain models, and songs such as All About that Bass glamorise being fat, which is not at all the message we should be sending to children and young easily influenced people.

"nor do I think we should be accepting of people who are obese. "

So at which point does someone become "unacceptable" (and thus fair game for any judgement that might come their way)?"

Like I said in my first post on this thread, I have lost about 4 stone over the past few years but am still a size 16 - 18. Am I to be treated like shit because I'm still fat, or am I worthy of being treated like a human being because I'm trying to do something about my offensive weight?

Yes I agree. Also anorexics

BumDisease, I'm not saying people should hurl abuse at you but neither I am saying that it is okay for people to tell you it's okay to be how you are, or that you should be proud of yourself no matter what shape or size you are.

It's brilliant you've made such an effort and already lost so much weight. I think you should be commended and proud of that.

I weigh around 19st currently. I have been 12st 6lb which was my lightest weight as an adult. I am fat because I have a very disordered relationship with food for various complicated reasons which I could probably benefit from therapy to understand. Shaming me further is not going to change my relationship with food. In fact as overeating is an (albeit negative) coping skill it would probably only make things worse.

So what do you mean? If you passed me in the street you'd never know I'd worked my arse off to lose the weight that I have because I'm still fat. I know it's not ok, that's why I'm trying to fix it. That doesn't mean that someone who isn't quite there yet doesn"t deserve to be treated with respect and humanity.

Fat shaming is actually a huge part of the problem. People who feel ashamed of their bodies either end up hiding them away or engaging in unhealthy behaviours. They are less likely to seek medical advice, less likely to engage in physical activity and more likely to binge/purge or binge/starve or other similar. People who are enociuraged to nurture themselves are more likely to choose helsthy behaviours.focusing on health behaviours not weight is the answer.

I encourage everyone interested in this topic to read "Health at every size" and "Body Respect". Both are by Linda Bacon (can't remember the joint author sorry).

I'm a size 14/16. I'm also a plus size model. I'm aware of my weight, I have a mirror!
I don't need shaming, that would likely just make me self harm and some days I hate myself enough already without other people piling in on top thanks
I don't model to be someone to look up to, I do it for money, nice photos and because I'm good at it regardless of my size

But healthy weight, healthy eating, is something heavily focused on.

I don't think many folks are over weight simply because they lack that knowledge. It must be much more complex than that.

Sedentary lifestyles, ease of convenience food, the craving for fat and sugar, even booze, instant gratification, it all adds up.

For many people, being a healthy weight takes a daily effort, and not one many are able or willing to put in and sustain.

I'm overweight. I fat shame myself all the time. You don't need to do it for me.

As someone very obese, who’s in therapy over my low self esteem and guilt issues, I can assure you, that none of your shame will help me do anything but see myself as an even bigger failure/blight on society and lead me to completely give up because it’s all too hard, and think what’s the point because I’m awful anyway. It does not make me reach for a carrot.

I know I have problems. I’m working on them through therapy and my GP, how dare you think your judgement of me is going to “help” more than that.

Portion size can also play a part in making people overweight. It's not just what you eat but how much of it. Some healthy food is also very fattening, for example cheese, oily fish and avocados. You need to read the calorie and fat content when you do your food shopping.

Rule of thumb; 1500-2000 calories per day and 70 grams of fat per day maximum if you don't want to put on weight.

But if you're not active, then this amount is too much. You're supposed to burn the calories you consume per day. This is really why I struggle, because I have bad hips and I'm very tired constantly because of my MH issues (PTSD and depression). I've also been on anti-depressants for 3 years. It's not an excuse for being overweight, it's just a part of the reason why.

I also have a tendency to 'comfort eat'. Portion size has been a problem for me, hence my post here. I'm also a dieting expert, having lost weight numerous times, I'm just unable to maintain it.) But I'm at this stage a size 14-16, so I'm not unduly concerned, I've been a yo-yo dieter all my life. At the moment, despite what some people are saying on here, my weight is the least of my problems.

But I definitely don't need to be 'fat shamed', thank you very much. I know I'm overweight and having it pointed out to me really doesn't help. I was 'fat shamed' by my parents all through my childhood and it had a very negative impact on my self-esteem. My DM still does it now, which is one reason why I'm very low contact with her.

I should have said, 'fat shaming' won't help me at all.

There is actually research and evidence that demonstrates that fat shaming has no effect, or does not result in encouraging people to lose weight. I would have to search for it but it is there and "weighs" more than opinion.

(Think it is a study on children...will look)

So because I am far I can't be proud of myself. Nice.

Will look for the original paper and any new on this since then but here was a media article after the paper release www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/11/fat-shaming-lose-weight-study

Fat shaming doesn’t work, it just makes people unhappy, retreat in to themselves & eat more.

We need to stop drinking vast amounts of alcohol, cut out all those endlesss tv programs about how to cook chocolate cakes, teach nutrition to all pupils in school and do more PE - competitive and non competitive sport

Then at least more people could make informed choices.

Fat.

There is also evidence to show that fat shaming by medical personnel causes more of a financial burden due to overweight people avoiding treatment.

I think people should mind their own fucking business tbh. And jamieson90 that was incredibly patronising.

You're more than likely to put the weight you have lost back on again, statistically speaking.

Perhaps, it will teach you some humility.