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To no longer support Can get research Uk

68 replies

Badhairday77 · 11/10/2018 22:49

Due to their obesity campaign.
Not helpful imo

OP posts:
MsLexic · 12/10/2018 09:34

Well I am obese. You probably would not think so looking at me, but I know I am because the Gp told me. I don't mind being reminded because it is high time I did something about it. Trouble is, I have a chronic painful underlying health condition, suffer from depression, am on steroids and am about to be made homeless.
But I still aim to make some sort of stab at it.

I have to laugh looking at my list. Life ain't fair but we can make it fairer by losing weight.

Loonoon · 12/10/2018 09:43

I knew to be obese was unhealthy and could cause heart problems, diabetes etc but I didn’t know obesity was a cause of cancer until this campaign. It hasn’t impacted on my life as I’m not obese but it might make me more careful in future so from that POV the campaign has succeeded.

I don’t think it’s any worse to warn people that being obese puts them at greater risk of cancer than it is to warn them that smoking does the same or that excess alcohol contributes to the likelihood of liver damage. Once people have the information they can make their own choices for good or ill.

Incidentally I have just come back from two weeks in Morocco at a 90% French resort and there were many, many obese French people all knocking back the inclusive alcohol and many of them smoking. It’s a myth that all French women are skinny and fashion conscious. It’s also a myth that all French children are well behaved!

partyanime · 12/10/2018 09:45

There's another reason I used to avoid cancer research UK but I've forgotten what it is now... a friend who'd had childhood cancer posted about it once on Facebook (I will have to go ask what the reason was again, read the post about four years ago!)

But this isn't a reason, this OP. I'm obese, and currently I smoke too.

I see the warnings on the packets I smoke. Seeing the warnings about being obese... I expect will have as much impact on me as the packets... I uncomfortably think "ok tomorrow I will quit" and carry on each day

But my unhealthy choices don't have to be avoided talking about by professionals to avoid hurting my feelings. No campaign is going to make me more depressed than I already feel about being a smoker or overweight. And it's non direct they're not pointing at "partyanime" saying your fat, you'll have cancer. Sure, if a relative or friend did that I'd probably burst into tears and hate them for it

But a billboard or advertisement who doesn't even know the person "partyanime" exists being in my face to walk past... it's just facts about the risks. Not personal fat shaming!

caroloro · 12/10/2018 09:51

Yes. YABU.

Thehop · 12/10/2018 09:53

Yanbu to not support cancer research h U.K. because they’re a corrupt disgusting organisation (google it) but I actually think the obesity campaign is great!

LoniceraJaponica · 12/10/2018 10:03

“The risk also is that if you get cancer you never know why. 30% of cancers are down to lifestyle, 60% we don’t know 10% genetic. So an overweight person will automatically think it was their weight when it could have been other factors. It’s lazy advertising in my opinion.”

No it isn’t. Anything that increases the risk of cancer should be made well known IMO. Even reducing the 30% is better than nothing Hmm

“I hate what they're doing because it smacks of victim blaming and suggesting that getting cancer is your own fault.”

No it doesn’t. I think we spend far too much time tiptoeing around people these days for fear of “victim blaming”, which IMO is an over-used expression. Sometimes you just have to spell out the risks to people who are in denial about their lifestyle and the risks it poses to their health.

I don’t get why so many people don’t understand the statistics of risk factors. Any intelligent person will know that you can get cancer/have a heart attack or stroke/develop diabetes through no fault of your own or genetic predisposition, BUT will at the same time understand that some lifestyle factors do significantly increase the risks. It isn’t rocket science. These statistics have been scientifically researched and are proper scientific data as opposed to anecdotal “data”.

There was a publicity campaign earlier this year about obesity increasing the risk of cancer. Clearly it wasn’t very successful judging from some of the responses on this thread.

cheesefield · 12/10/2018 10:07

What a bloody daft post.

LoniceraJaponica · 12/10/2018 10:09

Mine or the OP's?

Schuyler · 12/10/2018 10:14

YABVU. I knew there were lots of risks of being obese (high blood pressure, diabetes and heart disease etc) and I knew there was a higher cancer risk but the stats were not known to me. I was a bit shocked actually. I consider myself fairly well informed and I am educated and literate.

I am overweight/borderline obese and I have started to address it. I am not offended in the least. We shouldn’t sugarcoat these things. It’s important for us to know.

JellyBears · 12/10/2018 10:17

It’s not healthy to be obese just like it’s not healthy to smoke! Do you think I someone who watched their parent die of lung cancer like seeing the horrible pictures on cigarette packs? Not really it’s a painful reminder but if it stops ppl smoking I’ll happily see it every day!

It’s a painful truth but obesity causes cancer! Amongst other things. Maybe use it as an insentive to loose weight instead of a negative thing.

Delatron · 12/10/2018 10:48

Everyone is talking about cancer like it is one disease. There are so many types and not all linked to obesity.

I had breast cancer 8 years ago, every year CRUK churn out a campaign like this. It is lazy as it’s nothing new or nothing I haven’t heard before. I have to wonder where the money is going (corrupt). There are far better cancer charities to support.

easyandy101 · 12/10/2018 10:54

It is just too in your face. Those who are obese know that it isn't healthy.

So do smokers, so do drinkers

SpoonBlender · 12/10/2018 10:57

As a fattie, I'm totally in favour of the campaign.

Delatron · 12/10/2018 11:02

Plus it would be great if it had the impact of reducing obesity but it doesn’t, rates are continuing to rise. This campaign has been around a long time as have other weight based campaigns.

pacer142 · 12/10/2018 11:12

There are far better cancer charities to support.

Yes, indeed. CR have lost my donations. I've found a different charity that isn't political and is concentrating on cures/support for a particular form of cancer that has NO risk factors/reasons. I came across them because someone very close has just been diagnosed with a terminal cancer at a young age having not "enjoyed" any of the unhealthy lifestyle choices and it's bloody unfair!

Mia1415 · 12/10/2018 11:13

YABU I'm currently overweight and have a family history of cancer. Anything that pushes me to try and loose weight is a good thing.

Cancer and obesity are linked whether you like it or not.

Anything that can be done to try and prevent and cure cancer is also a good thing.

londonmummy1966 · 12/10/2018 11:23

YABU to disagree with their highlighting the risks from obesity. However YANBU for not supporting CRC - for all PPs saying up-thread that they didn't realise obesity was a cancer risk - CRC have known obesity was a risk for more than 20 years and have only just started talking about it. It suited them better to present almost all cancer (other than booze or smoking related) as an unfortunate illness rather than one in which in many cases lifestyle choices might have a bearing. In cynical terms - ie looking at what will help with fundraising, they are probably right - pulmonary diseases in their various forms are a bigger killer than cancer but find it harder to fund raise as people often see heart disease as self-inflicted.

LoniceraJaponica · 12/10/2018 11:30

"I came across them because someone very close has just been diagnosed with a terminal cancer at a young age having not "enjoyed" any of the unhealthy lifestyle choices and it's bloody unfair!"

Yes, it's unfair. OH had major gastro surgery 3 years ago to remove a cancer. His is a genetic condition that he has no control over. However, if more people are prepared to take responsibility over their own health by having a healthier lifestyle instead of bleating on about victim blaming perhaps there will be more money in the pot to research cancers like your friend's and my husband's.

"This campaign has been around a long time as have other weight based campaigns."

Yes they have. I'm struggling to believe that some posters on here don't know this.

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