To no longer support Can get research Uk

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Due to their obesity campaign.
Not helpful imo

Cancer Research's entire reason for existing is to research and discover cures for cancer. Prevention is the most effective weapon against it and obesity causes cancer. Not finger pointing, trying to save lives through education.

That’s what I mean. Prevention is better than a cure so are they doing anything practical to help obese people, or just highlighting the risks and letting “someone” (NHS) else deal with it?

The NHS does not deal with obesity well when Slimming World is their go to option.

Personally I'd rather the funds raised for cancer research went towards finding cures for the biggest killer disease our society faces, rather than treating the overweight. That's not their purpose.

The risk also is that if you get cancer you never know why. 30% of cancers are down to lifestyle, 60% we don’t know 10% genetic. So an overweight person will automatically think it was their weight when it could have been other factors. It’s lazy advertising in my opinion.

I don’t support cancer research as I hated one of their previous campaigns. I give to a fantastic cancer charity where the money goes directly in to research not advertising things we already know.

I’m slim and had breast cancer, every woman on my breast cancer course was slim and healthy. I spent hours in cancer waiting rooms, hardly anyone was overweight. Yes circumstantial evidence but in my experience cancer doesn’t discriminate and these factors only raise your risk slightly.

10 years ago I was a 20-a-day smoker.
The amount of campaigning about how it caused cancer meant I went from not caring that I smoked to feeling guilty, like I knew that I was almost certainly going to get seriously ill one way or another from it. So I made the decision to quit which was hard work but I did it.
Unfortunately I don't see obesity as being any different. They can't always protect everyone's feelings and if you know the risks and still choose to stay obese (Not saying everyone does but a lot do) then that's your own choice and you cannot be annoyed with the facts.
I'm currently 1.5st heavier than I used to be.. borderline overweight. But even so I am stressed about the impact this is having on me and am doing everything I can to get back to being healthy.
It's a huge strain on the nhs if you smoke, drink, take drugs or are obese. I don't think charities pointing this out is a terrible thing

I think with CRUK’s “clout” they could use their research to make wider implications in preventing cancer in the first place.

They don’t need to do solve it themselves, but they can pressure the NHS to offer a better service than SW or point people towards professionals who can help with obesity.

There are so many resources for weight loss. What's the point in cancer research diverting resources from research into regurgitating another diet? They weren't told to go out and invent e cigarettes because smoking caused cancer. The NHS can also recommend the Diabetes UK low carb programme so it's not all slimming world.

How very dare they campaign about a public health problem which is the second biggest cause of the disease they are raising funds to try and stamp out 🙄

It’s a good campaign. I had no idea obesity was such a big risk for cancer.

I think it's a fantastic campaign. I had NO idea that obesity caused cancer and the c word is enough to scare me into action. BMI currently 28.8 down from 35.1 last spring and I had a baby in that time. And thanks to this campaign I'm going to keep going to get into a healthy BMI.

I am not getting cancer and leaving my baby just because I like beer, takeaways and cake.

@LostInShoebiz excellent point

I hate what they're doing because it smacks of victim blaming and suggesting that getting cancer is your own fault.

Someone very close to me has been diagnosed with terminal cancer this year. They didn't smoke, weren't obese, didn't drink. It's one of the many cancers that doesn't have any known "cause" and has no risk factors. Just purely bad luck. Absolutely nothing could have been done to avoid it and there is no known cure - all they can do is extend life by a short time.

""But obesity IS the second biggest cause of cancer. ""

But it isn't 'obesity, it's the factors of it. Wrong food and inactivity.

That's the message that should be given out.

Inactivity is killing people, fat or thin.

Oh for goodness sakes OP!!

I know smokers who are frankly addicted and desperate to stop. They know it's bad for their health. They know it causes cancer. They don't get offended at these campaigns but by your logic, perhaps we should stop showing those kind of posters too!

Or if we stopped bloody pussy footing around and told people straight, perhaps people would do something about these things before it's too late!!

"And thanks to this campaign I'm going to keep going to get into a healthy BMI"

But a healthy BMI isn't enough. It's what you do to get/maintain that BMI.

@sittingonacornflake Congratulations! That's really impressive willpower you have there. I tried every diet under the sun when I was diagnosed with early stage cancer and gall bladder disease but it took hypnotherapy to break my bad habits.

it smacks of victim blaming and suggesting that getting cancer is your own fault.

Or, suggesting that, whilst sometimes we just don’t know why somebody gets cancer, there are definitely things you can do to significantly reduce your risk.

We don’t know what causes SIDS in all cases; but there is still medical advice given on how to reduce the risk to your baby. Is that also victim blaming?

But obesity does cause cancer. And there's an increase in younger people getting cancers which were typically restricted to those over 55 and not routinely checked for (from my personal experience and speaking to the chemo nurses on my visits). Not liking these things doesn't make them true and shock/in your face campaigns are the most effective.

YABU. I find the drink aware adverts prick my conscience and I have been known to turn the radio off but it would be disingenuous to pretend these campaigns aren't necessary purely because of our discomfort.

*doesn't make them NOT true

But it isn't 'obesity, it's the factors of it. Wrong food and inactivity.

No it literally is obesity. Extra body fat is hormonally active. It becomes an active endocrine organ. There are certain cancers which are then much more likely to occur. A slim person who is inactive and eats badly will have a lower risk of getting cancer in many cases.

I think many people still have no clue about the fact that obesity raises your risks of getting cancer. I read that people who lose a lot of weight after, say, gastric bypass then have an 80% lower risk of getting certain cancers. That's a huge amount.

We need to tackle obesity. It shouod be done sensitively but I hate to think of where we're heading as a society. Health problems are horrible things to have and it's a tragedy if people deal with something as serious as cancer when they could avoid it through altering their diet.

I've recently lost nearly 4 stone, from 19 stone to 15 stone. And yet every medical appointment I have, I get a lecture about my weight. For good reason. Obesity does cause cancer, and a whole host of other issues and it's high time we stopped tiptoeing around it. Overeating will kill you, as will taking drugs and smoking. Poor lifestyle choices are killing the NHS.

Agree with birds, pacer and delatron. Of course we should all do what we can to stay healthy, obesity also a factor in heart disease and lots of other conditions. BUT there is no single cause for anything. Lots of people being scared about diabetes when they have no genetic factor, which is a huge part of the picture.
Should look at marketing and factory farming, additives,poverty etc etc
Not just finger pointing, most people don't want to be fat, multiple causes for that too.

It's a good campaign. It needs saying. If we had pussyfooted around the link between smoking and cancer we would probably still have the sorts of smoking rates there were in the 60s and 70s.

In most cases, if you are obese you can do something about it. Eat less, exercise more.

I look back and sigh when I think that I bought a car parking season ticket for my local station. It was a 10 minute walk! It is an example of how my lifestyle has changed - I can't believe I was that lazy. It's not easy to change your lifestyle but it can be done. I wasn't obese, but I was certainly a bit overweight and am much leaner and fitter now.

I hate what they're doing because it smacks of victim blaming and suggesting that getting cancer is your own fault

It often is imo. Acknowledging that doesn’t mean that it’s ‘always’ your fault though...I don’t think anyone would suggest that.