IMPORTANT. To ask if MNers are aware of this re Universal credit&SAHP’s?

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So up til now on tax credits one parent can stay home while the other parent works.
And for almost 20 years it’s been seen as completely acceptable

An example is a family with 3 dc
The FT working parent earns approx £26,000. The SAHP receives approx £100 a week in tax credits

Not only on Universal credit will that amount be much less (approx 30% iirc) but the previously SAHP will be made to attend the job centre and job search as a condition to receive Universal credit

The aim is so NOBODY is on “benefits”

There seems to be an assumption from the general public that this will only affect people not in work. THAT IS NOT THE CASE

For the sake of your self-respect

Nice

If children are in school why shouldn't sahp be made to work instead of claiming benefits? There's no reason why sahp can't find a job to fit school hours to provide for their family instead of being on benefits. I'm a sahm to a 13 month old and a 5 year old and as soon as youngest is in school/nursery I will be applying for jobs. DH works 32.5 hours on minimum wage and I don't apply for any benefits other than child benefit and child tax credit. DH claims working tax credit. We pay for rent ourselves. We are entitled to housing benefit but would rather pay it ourselves.

If you claim benefits because your income is considered too low to pay your bills in full then it's reasonable to expect you to look for work once your youngest child is in school, I believe it's a 16 hour requirement for full tax credits. Seems fair to me. If you don't claim benefits then it's up to you how you organise your work/life balance.

Sounds fine to me! I'm a single mum with a disabled child yet I'm still expected to look for work despite being her carer. Why should sahp not look for work aswell. I agree with it.

@pbm28

That is so shitty and unfair!!

Green
You should have the choice to be a sahm though, this is the argument.
Not that one can and the other can't.

I think some people live in very one dimensional lives if they believe that just because your children are in school it's possible to find work, or to make it affordable with childcare.
Everybody's situation is different, it might be possible for some families to have both parents working, that doesn't mean it will work for somebody else.
I have friends who care for elderly relatives whilst their dc are in school, some who H.ed because their dc can't go to mainstream school.
Those who oh work away and have to cover all childcare, whether they work or not.
It's not just as simple as get a job.
Other friends look after their grandchildren, they will have to start charging their kids to babysit now. I know I will.

Is it controversial now to say that working to support your family gives self-respect? I know it gives me self-respect to think I’m independent. My mum was disabled and completely reliant on my dad’s wages, and she told me to do my best to always have my own income.

Abilouise

That's a fair amount of benefit for a household not claiming
Not saying you shouldn't claim but don't say you don't one minute then continue listing them

Abilouise you do realize those are classed as benefits now dont you? And they are the ones included in the UC changeover.

You have basically proved the point of this.................

This disability canpaign group summed it up for me.

Black Triangle
‏ @blacktriangle1
17h17 hours ago

"Sign and share finally middle England has woken to fact they will be affected and are scroungers too"

So if a woman is married to a man (or vice Versa) who earn say £30k and gets a small amount of tax credits. Government decide this is no longer possible. So she goes out to work say 35 hours a week as suggested, or she decides to go to uni to get a better job. But cos her husband earns his own money she gets NO help. No maintenance grant, no childcare vouchers, has to pay all prescriptions and dental care by her husbands meagre wage (in SE) 3 kids say, wraparound care for 2, full time care for the youngest, travel costs, work clothes etc- what do you reckon she comes out with per month? Very very little.
Too tired to even consider self respect. Family suffers. Relationships suffer. SOMETIMES BREAKDOWN Quality of life for the whole family suffers.
NONE OF IT IS FAIR.
I can see why only one parent works in some families.

Romany I don't agree with this change, But in fairness it is not an argument to argue that it means a GP will now have to work rather than provide care to a GC so their parent can go to work.

Middle England scroungers? Tax credits stop at what £32k whole family income. That's not a lot in some areas. No 'middle England' get housing benefit free prescriptions, free music, free dentist , free school meals etc. It is simply not true.

Kevin Bridges on self respect and self esteem

www.bing.com/videos/search?q=kevin+bridges++on+self+respect&view=detail&mid=E3A01F0ACDCBB187ABB7E3A01F0ACDCBB187ABB7&FORM=VIRE

As someone with no kids at home and an ill DP, I think £32k is a fair amount of money.

I'm expected to attend work focused interviews despite being called constantly by my d d's school to pick her up at the drop of a hat. And having no support. I have no sympathy that is all! Boohoo a sahp needs to look for work.

I should say I’m completely in favour of benefits for those who need them, especially the disabled and carers. I just don’t think they should be used for funding lifestyle choices, which is what I think being a SAHM is. It’s a perfectly valid choice, but one that you should pay for yourself.

Carers only get benefits if they are providing 35 hours a week care, the person they are caring for gets certain benefits, and they have a low income. Many people provide a few hours of care every day and do not meet this criteria.

I think that sounds fair. Being a SAHP is amazing but it is a lifestyle choice if you can afford it, if you can’t afford it and receive benefits you’re not a SAHP you’re unemployed.

@abacucat, I’d much prefer to see people who do a few hours care a day get benefits than continue funding SAHMs whose children are at school. It’s outrageous how this government treats carers and disabled people.

Early

Sorry but bollocks. You don't stop being a parent when they are at school whether you work or not.
Unemployed means job seeking.

Only if you want the money Romany - nobody cares how you describe yourself if you are happy not working!

Romany - I didn’t mention anything about kids being at school I don’t know what you’re talking about? If you don’t want the extra tax credits then of course crack on and do what you want, but services are being cut left right and centre and we should not be funding people who are perfectly capable of working because they want to stay at home. Simple. I’d love to be able to afford to stay home with my kids, it’s an important job but I will not take from tax payers pockets to do that when I’m capable of working.

Didn't realise tax was classed as benefits now, I apologise

@Earlywalker totally agree with you.

Didn't realise tax was classed as benefits now, I apologise

it is when its means tested,who would think otherwise