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..... to think DS sch is being OTT on behaviour policy here....

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QueenieBae123 · 08/10/2018 10:07

During indoor play, a child is hiding in storage cupboard... and they have sent a letter home. I have had a few of these but this one....just that really.....

..... to think DS sch is being OTT on behaviour policy here....
OP posts:
AlexanderHamilton · 08/10/2018 12:01

*If there'd been a fire....

Not nice to think of. Someone could have risked their life to look for him.*

A secondary school where I used to run after school classes used to regurlaly hold fire drills where the member of staff in charge of fire safety would ask a child to hide in a cupboard or similar during the drill to see if they were found.

Quartz2208 · 08/10/2018 12:02

Im confused as to what you think they should have done. There was an incident and they told you about it. Its what they have to do

tillytrotter1 · 08/10/2018 12:05

Lots of people looking to excuse poor behaviour! Remember my mantra, Discipline is what other people's children need!
Had the child hidden there and dragged stuff over, hurting himself, guess who would be held responsible? Still, nice little earner.

WindDoesNotBreakTheBendyTree · 08/10/2018 13:27

On the contrary @sleepingstandingup @thisreallyisafarce

I would expect the teacher to talk to me if there were ongoing behaviour issues that we needed to work together to address; or if there were an isolated incident of such magnitude that it required out of school sanctions.

I also expect teachers to be able to deal with a bit of day to day messing about quite adequately in the moment.

Thisreallyisafarce · 08/10/2018 13:28

WindDoesNotBreakTheBendyTree

The OP says she has had a few of these.

starfishmummy · 08/10/2018 13:36

This sounds like something the school should deal with at the time, not requiring a note home!!

As this child also has additional needs they should also consider whether someone talking to him about it at home serves any useful purpose - for some additional needs children, things need to be dealt with immediately in order to be effective.

Thisreallyisafarce · 08/10/2018 13:39

This sounds like something the school should deal with at the time, not requiring a note home!!

Of course they dealt with it at school. They ALSO want to inform the parent.

WindDoesNotBreakTheBendyTree · 08/10/2018 14:19

@thisreallyisafarce

As a standalone event I would have thought any decent teacher could handle it. If its part of a bigger pattern I'd expect to talk to the teacher to work out consistent strategies - not an off the peg whingeynote home saying "your kid was naughty today" .

Thisreallyisafarce · 08/10/2018 14:23

WindDoesNotBreakTheBendyTree

To be honest, it sounds like you expect to call the shots. If the school wants to send home a note to inform about poor behaviour, they can do so. It is then the parent's decision whether to get in touch with school, and the school's decision what further strategies to put in place or what further conversations to have with home. I don't understand what you are objecting to.

WindDoesNotBreakTheBendyTree · 08/10/2018 15:25

I'd object to sending a note home that logs incidents of poor behaviour like an accident report.

Thankfully the schools my kids attend/ed have more effective communication than that.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 08/10/2018 16:15

I tend agree Wind, children do silly things and I expect schools to deal with it. I'm not sure I'd be very confident about a school sending notes home for every 9 year old that did something daft.

WinnieFosterTether · 08/10/2018 16:28

Yy it's an odd way to communicate because it's implying they don't actually want to 'talk' to parents about behaviour. It reads like a tick-box form.
I do think it's relevant that it happened during indoor play: were they playing? who was supposed to be supervising? That's my problem with using a form instead of speaking to the parent. There's not enough detail.

Thisreallyisafarce · 08/10/2018 17:28

WindDoesNotBreakTheBendyTree

Can you not see that they have their reasons? They need to be able to say they have informed the parent of the behaviour, and, frankly, given that many parents seem to be inclined to argue the toss, they need to have an efficient way of doing that. It's completely reasonable and I have no idea why you're moaning about it!

YouTheCat · 08/10/2018 17:41

I'd bet the reason for the note home is that he was asked to come out of the cupboard and refused. A cupboard is not a suitable place to play. Indoor play activities in class usually consist of colouring, reading and chatting.

So long as he wasn't experiencing a sensory issue, I'd say it's entirely fair to send a brief note home.

Thisreallyisafarce · 08/10/2018 17:50

The worst parents - from my perspective working in a school - are the ones who say, "Why on earth am I being informed about this? It's just silly behaviour! Deal with it!" And then when the school does "deal with it" (kid loses play, or gets detention) they moan like drains.

WindDoesNotBreakTheBendyTree · 08/10/2018 18:25

@farce I have no idea why you are so keen to change my (perfectly valid) opinion

exLtEveDallas · 08/10/2018 18:34

We record incident of poor behaviour (from low level disruption to Bullying/Racism etc) on SIMs. We also send notes home similar to the one above - because if we didn't, when behaviour comes up at parents evenings and/or in end of year reports, parents blow their stacks about not being informed. We learned this the hard way.

Cuckooitstrue · 08/10/2018 18:36

All the kids do naughty things at school. The teacher is hoping that you will work as a team to enable your child to succeed in school. Not only by working hard, but by staying safe too.

If you don't support the teacher, and laugh or moan at the note home, fine. But you will have taught your child that they are right to be disrespectful. And when the fire alarm goes off and your child gets left in a cupboard- what will you say?

Thisreallyisafarce · 08/10/2018 18:58

WindDoesNotBreakTheBendyTree

I wouldn't say I was keen. I just empathise with the teacher who has to deal with the moaning 😂

WindDoesNotBreakTheBendyTree · 08/10/2018 19:08

But I'm not moaning at anyone!

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Cat1nthehat · 08/10/2018 19:22

I’m a secondary teacher and recently set an after school detention for a pupil hiding in a cupboard. In my case it was absolute defiance of the rules and the pupil was trying to push boundaries to see what he could get away with. I was glad the parents knew straight away as I thought it was pretty poor behaviour.

TedAndLola · 08/10/2018 19:33

YoureAllABunchOfBastards

I'm so glad it's not just me who found the image of a child hiding in a cupboard quite funny Blush

Although I assumed he was doing it on a silly whim. Obviously it isn't funny if he's hiding from something that scares him...

OP, do you think he went in there for a quiet place to calm down or for "fun"? Your posts are a bit contradictory.

LJdorothy · 08/10/2018 20:27

Teachers deal with many, many low level disruptions every day without involving parents. To go to the effort of writing a note they must feel it's something you need to know about. Speak to your child, find out what was going on and if he admits to doing it to be naughty, tell him not to do it again. Support the school, unlike the people on this post who are insisting it should be solely up to the teacher to deal with their children's bad behaviour.

Thisreallyisafarce · 09/10/2018 09:26

WindDoesNotBreakTheBendyTree

Only because you're not in this position or saying what you think to a teacher. What you think does sound moany on here, though, to me anyway.

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