Apple cider vinegar

[MrTrebus]

I've recently spent 2 hours chatting with a stranger.

Totally normal everyday middle aged man and he said he's started having 2 tablespoons morning and evening of Apple cider vinegar with "mother (thats an ingredient I don't mean drinking it with his mum) in a glass of water morning and evening and he's lost 5kg in a short time.

No change of diet otherwise and no added exercise. So I've ordered a bottle of the right stuff on Amazon for £6 to give it a go. AIBU? was he BU? does it work? Am I grasping at straws with my 4 stone to lose?!

Its a really good bread improver.

It’s an ingredient I like to have in the cupboard for all sorts of things.

And my henna supplier advises adding a few drops to the mixture.

But for the last few weeks I’ve been feeding it to the fruit flies that arrived with a bag of apples and have taken over my house. Have drowned millions. Not sure I’ll be able to stand the smell ever again now.

If its marketing then they've been around for 40 years as my mum and granny swore by it.

I went to a food festival where there were THREE apple cider vinegar stalls. All with the ‘mother’. All saying it was good for the gut.
None of them could explain how the mother got to the gut alive. Surely it just gets destroyed by stomach acid. You would have to drink a shit load of it for it to change you alkalinity. Your body is designed to regulate that itself! It’s crap

It’s a diuretic, so if you tend to be carry a lot of water weight it can result in weight loss. Not fat loss though, just the water weight.

Personally I love it for chest colds. Helps me breathe easier than anything I can get over the counter.

I like it in a pint of water. It's good for your joints.

How is it good for joints? There are no crystals to dissolve in most joint issues, except gout. Are there any actual, peer reviewed, journal papers on this? No anecdotal stuff from faux health websites.

I took it with hot water and lemon every morning for about 2 months and it made no difference to my IBS and I also didn’t lose any extra weight. It can taste nice in tiny quantities as a salad dressing though

I drink it mixed into plenty of water and through a straw. I have it every morning and have noticed that I don’t get heartburn anymore, and it helps me not feel as hungry so I go longer until lunch.

I think it prevents heartburn because when you add acid into your stomach, the stomach acid level goes up (obviously) so your stomach doesn’t produce excess acid in response to low acid level. That’s what heartburn is. I’ve also read that your stomach opening closes a little in response to the acid, preventing reflux. Don’t know if that’s true.

I think it works as an appetite suppressant just because the taste of vinegar in water isn’t particular nice! And you’re having a good amount of water with it which fills you up

Think it might also contain probiotics which are good for the gut? Have also read that it helps the way you digest carbohydrate, decreasing the amount that gets stores as fat. No idea if that’s true. I’d want to understand how that works scientifically to believe that.

That was a long way of saying basically I like it for the heartburn prevention and appetite suppressant effects.

look.on science driven nutrition, one of the first non sell-you-crap links that comes up if you search apple cider vinegar evidence.c

no evidence for any of the miracles. some teeth damage and skin burns, possible increase in cancer as well as decrease, possible appetite reduction of about 200 calories as the stuff is so revolting.it makes you feel sick.

sucker bait at £6 a bottle. Easy money.

Tky for warning as I have Gastroparesis!

It can apparently boost your gut biome, which according to some new research can actually have effects such as decreasing appetite (because certain gut bacteria give out signals to eat more sugar for example)- but it’s the biome that has the effect, not the ACV. Other foods to try are fermented things like saurkraut (sorry, sp!) and kimchi, kefir, live yogurt etc, and reducing artificial sweeteners which new research claims will destroy good bacteria in the gut.

This book :
www.amazon.co.uk/Clever-Guts-Diet-revolutionise-inside/dp/1780723040

Is very readable and is a good starting point if you are looking to find out more.

I drink ACV in a pint of water every morning, it’s not so vinegary then. It’s one of those ‘million uses for X’ kind of things though isn’t it? I started using it because I get lots of coughs and colds, so this year I attempted to boost my immunity after reading the book above.

you cannot boost immunity if you are in normal health. Wash hands frequently,.keep clear of stuffy offices, crowded transport and small children.

not easy for most on here!

my dad uses it for eczema he hasn't mentioned weight loss but he feels it's really helped his skin a lot

All this stuff about gut health and bacteria is so poorly understood at the moment. The medical community know next to nothing about it. The alternative hippy crowd know less.

The difference is that:

• a lot of medical people take the absence of knowledge about something as proof that it cannot possibly have any benefit for anyone,
• a lot of the hippy lot go the other way an assume it must be some sort of wonder cure-all.

It probably helps some people. It probably does sod all for most.
And the underlying reasons for that probably depend on a whole bunch of stuff no one understands very well at all.

I find the gut biome research absolutely fascinating though, and it just shows that no matter how much we think we know, there is so much about our bodies that is undiscovered.

so your stomach doesn’t produce excess acid in response to low acid level.
What? Either you've got heartburn due to excess acid, or you haven't.

I take it daily but mix with fruit juice because on it's own or mixed with water it is really gross. I go gym and eat decent so I cant say if it's the apple cider vinegar but it helps with spots and also worms which you can catch from pets

mrsbethel sums it up well. The shameless lot are those selling it at high prices, although fleecing the gullible is legal and a good way to make cash.

@Furrycushion

In a lot of cases the feeling of heartburn isn't actually excess acid. Is your stomach trying to increase acid and churning it around your stomach to aid digestion.

By adding some acid your stomach stops churning.

(Or something to that effect. It certainly helps me anyway.)

I drink it every day. I like the warming feeling. My digestion is much better than when I don't drink it.

worms which you can catch from pets
You can't catch worms from pets.
Sigh

MrsBethel Yes - there's loads of interest though, gut and skin biomes are a current hot topic in human biomedical research (and agri as well, trying to reduce cow farts and antibiotic use). Give it ten years for the academics to get a handle on it, and then another fifteen for the medical types...

@Sommelierrrr

I think you are all missing the point somewhat.

If you drink some (diluted through a straw) when you are really hungry and about to eat a jumbo pack of crisps / chocolate... Your appetite disappears.

Voila.

Precisely!

Although has anyone found it gives them bloating? Why would that be?

This is a zombie thread. There may ne discussions on this in the weight loss chat. if you Google it, there's articles explaining why it can cause bloating. People on my fb weight loss group say it helps.