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Screwed up... again

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User1756 · 03/10/2018 01:29

Not sure how to tackle this one...
I am a divorced man with two children at 18 and 21. Been remarried for two years now to a nice but very career driven lady with two 10 and 11 yr old children. They are from another country, as am I, (different to thiers, but i have a UK passport, they an ILR).
We have had a few issues come to light in our relationship and i do not know if i am seeing things as i should.

My wifes family speak another language as well as English and i have struggled to learn thiers. As a result i am often excluded from
converations on the basis that the ‘children must not loose thier language’ and so conversations go on without me. Visiting relatives coming to my home also insist that tbey speak thier language and it is for me to learn, not for them to engage me. If we are visiting them, i can often go for a few weeks speaking to very few people. My wife finds it annoying that i dont speak thier language and has pretty much ‘given up on me’ in that regard. Although we live in the uk, the home language is thiers, not english.

My wifes ex husband has only been very recently able to return back to the country after he had to leave for 3 years due to a visa issue. The children found it very hard. Now every effort is made to address his stability, including my wife arranging a job for him and paying for his housing for 6 months and receiving nothing from him in terms of mainatenance for many years. It often also happens that i will pay for many items for the children,as one would expect, when we are out and about. Because it is deemed important ‘that the children see thier father’ as much as possible after such a long time, my wife includes him in many of our family events, whether i am asked or not. Or she will simply go out with him and her children as a foursome with me staying home. For school issues etc, it is right that he goes with her but i do get irritated when he tags along for other things. In our discussions, she insisted that he is still ‘part of the family’ for the childrens sake. They are still quite close and she admits that she still cares deeply for him, because its good for the children. I find this hard.

My wife is paid very well for an executive level job and has a lot of family wealth and a considerable amount of money set aside. I work for myself but business is not doing well. We rent a house and pay half each. My children come to stay infrequently and thier is only me but my wife and stepchildren in the house. I am still expected to contribute 50:50. Our finances are seperate and our inly joint account is for the house. She has no wish to combine finds.That means at the end of the month i am in debt and she has a good amount left over. She often pays happily for the children's needs but is quite tight when we are out togeather. I end up paying for meals etc. I am very worried about my cash flow but am not comfident that i could rely on her if things started going south for me. I had a very bad situation last year where i needed help and ran out of cash. I had holes in my shoes and couldnt afford to replace them with a new pair for six months. She didnt notice ( i would not ask for a short term loan as that would be seen as a weakness in her eyes). she did however buy the children new clothes in addition to a new handbag whilst i walked around with wet feet. She often books expensive international yearly holidays which she will pay the ticket for with airmiles, but i am expected to pay the holiday expenses. The difficulty is that she can easily afford it whereas i cannot. She takes her children for a weeks holiday every year without me so that they get get some one on one time with her. I stay at home and look after the dog.

Although we are supposed to get every third weekend to ourselves where
The children see thier dad, she often ends up running around after the children on our one weekend a month (the ex doesnt have a car) so that in effect they are with us all the time still or she ends up driving them all to wherever they want to go. Despite my concerns, and requests that we have time to ourselves, i get the impression sometimes that she would rather be with them and so often ‘volunteers’ to assist in weekends which are not hers. The result is that she gets to see the girls almost every day despite them being with thier father, and we get little time alone. It feels a bit like she is trying to bring the family back togeather (again ‘for the childrens sake’) which of course the children absolutely love.

Our ‘intimate life’ is very mediocre and infrequent with her being ‘tired’ so she is glad to get to bed for an early night having worked all day (which i understand but am never the less frustrated by). When she isnt tired, she would rather cuddle up to her children than me and i often have to ask the children to leave the bedroom at night so i can get into my bed with her. All 3 look at me with an angry face as if i have broken up thier cuddle time despite it being 10pm. She then goes to sleep.

Life revolves around the children and every decision about our future seems to be based on them. The difficulty i have is that i am really worried about my future being so reliant on decisions which involve the comfort of others over mine. I have begun to feel that i have been used. Perhpas regarded as a bit of a ‘surrogate’ dad whilst the father was away. Now that he has returned i feel a bit side-lined. They all sit in my house speaking in thier own language with me not undefstnding the conversations, he is very involved in our life on a daily basis and any future decisions about where we live or how our live will look in the future will be based upon whether he can go too (for the childrens sake). I understand that happens when you marry someone with children but mine are not taken into account and it seems that the whole process is very one-sided and totally inflexible. If it means any disruption to her children or the reltionship with their dad who has been absent for a large prt of their life, its simply not for discussion.

There is a possibility in time that my wife will have to commute for work into the EU from mon-thursday which means seeing her even less. That would mean that i would end up looking after her children day to day whilst she was away working and thier dad was also working. As it is, my ‘work from home’ schedule means that i am often acting as the ‘manny’, picking children up from school and running errands for the family. I have only recently been able to put a stop to that as a daily expectation, as i now work a few days away from my local area and so have to work in the city for 3 days per week.

To cut a very long story short, i see my children about once a month as they are growing up ( i text or phone daily). I have not much money after my own divorce and no great income.
I have been offered a job in another country. We originally discussed moving to my home country for a few years when we first met. Now with the childrens father here after a protracted visa process, my wife says we will not be going anywhere unless he can come too and realistically she says that its unlikely she would follow me and move the children. That means i would have to go by myself. The job will mean me coming back every 8 weeks or so but i am not sure if things will ever work out. She is happy for me to go and realises that it would be good for me and my career ( i am 20 years from returement and am really treading water at the moment, thier being very few opirtunites in my sector at present). I do feel that if i took the job, it would put me back on a career track, it would pay very well and felieve my money worries and i would be overall happier. But in essence, i am not sure i would be missed that much and almost feel that it would be saying ‘goodbye’.

I am trying to second guess things a bit but do wonder whether she has a ‘this is the situation here, put up or shut up’ and is suggesting that i take the job knowing that it is an easy way of bringing a close to things amicably?

OP posts:
User1756 · 04/10/2018 11:56

I think you all have hit the nail on the head. I do feel rather ‘convenient’ and mostly affection and interest in me comes on her terms.

I have tried to address the issues in the past but tbh she always manages to turn the conversation into her being a victim of circumstances and my lack of understanding. She is ‘in short fairly manipulative’ in terms of argument and i often end up conceding. She cannot see my point of view and looks upon the issue of the language as me being racist, which is certainly not true given that the majority of my family are a multitude of races themselves. I do find it difficult to face reality and still do beleive that she loves me, but its love with limits provided i agree with her and it feels that she is unwilling to flex on her view. We tend not to see eye to eye on some major things now.

Its just a bit crap really.

OP posts:
Doingreat · 04/10/2018 12:40

Op she doesn't love you. Once you accept that fact it will be so much easier to end this relationship. Otherwise you will live on in hope that things will improve. Shes made it clear where her priorities lie. They're not with you. It's one thing to put your kids first. But not one's ex husband. That's unacceptable.

Two things you need to realise. She has emotionally checked out of the relationship. Her ex is important to her not you.

She doesn't love you. She loves her ex and wants her family again with him.

I'm sorry to be harsh. You're being used. Don't settle for this selfish woman. You are worthy of love and respect. I really hope you leave her and find happiness.

User1756 · 05/10/2018 18:22

Thank you all.
I have another question about this. Everyone says (and i understand why), that ‘mum’ should always put her children ahead of all others priorities; however, how does that translate to looking after the interest of the Ex ‘because if he is disadvantaged or upset, or cannot pay rent, the children will have to see thier father suffer’ and that cannot wver be good for the children. Therefore in looking after the children as a priority, she justififes that she also must look after his interests so that the children are not impacted. Hence, we cannot move anywhere if he cannot come too.

Is that looking after the kids? Or an excuse to look after him, even if it disadvantages my choices?

OP posts:
Happygummibear · 05/10/2018 19:34

Personally I think it's an excuse.

The children need to learn that they have to stand on their own 2 feet..all she is doing is teaching them that mum will bail out those in trouble.

It should be his responsibility to look after and fend for himself.

However moving so far away that the children will struggle to see their dad I can understand.

JayDot500 · 05/10/2018 19:40

If she wants to help him out, that's fine. But what is not okay is her inserting her ex into every family situation possible, as far as the kids are concerned. There needs to be a line. If a line were there, she's overstepped it a long time about imo. How would she feel if you're ex wife came along for ice creams and day trips? And she'd have to pay for the privilege!!

How are you supposed to have a relationship with her kids if their real father is present the majority of the time. Does he spend time alone with his kids? It's very evident that they are all her priority and you are just 'along for the ride' as you say.

One thing is real, as soon as you tell her you're strongly considering the job and reconsidering the future of your marriage, she'll soon sit up and show her true self. She could still declares she loves you etc etc, but the bottom line is if ex hubby 'must' come, then marriage is over. Sorry OP, but you're an idiot if you don't change your current situation!! I work with men like you, so can well believe some men do not find it easy to 'firm Up' against a woman they love. But you don't even seem to have a basic relationship to salvage, so go and adventure!

Bobbybear10 · 05/10/2018 19:50

I’m really sorry op, she is using you.

It doesn’t sound like she loves you at all.

It sounds like she used you for a home, visa and stability then used you again as the ‘anchor’ for her supposed ‘ex’

I believe she is still very much in a relationship with the ‘ex’

You need to put yourself, your future and your kids first now.

I would sell the house split the assets however is fair (don’t be a complete push over, she has used you completely you owe her nothing) and take the job abroad. With your better wage would you be able to subsidise your children visiting you?

LJFM2B · 08/10/2018 13:43

@User1756 Is that looking after the kids? Or an excuse to look after him, even if it disadvantages my choices?

I think your right there, sorry i was more pointing to her having the kids in bed till late etc ... BUT like the rest say how ever you look at it and the how whats, and whys - this relationship isnt 2 way and your wife is really not being who you need her to be. As i said previously you only have one life and i hope you choose to leave this toxic situation and enjoy your life and pursue your goals else where ... wishing you all the best

User1756 · 22/10/2018 00:02

A bit of an update....
As the reality of the job gets closer a few things have predictably happened.
Intamacy has reduced except on her terms only (I guess to be expected).
We discussed finances. We rent at present and she asked whether if i took the job overseas, would i still be paying her the rent here too?
I did point out that if i was only staying here for perhaps a total of 8 weeks in a year, it would seem a bit unfair to have to pay galf the rent as well. As we have seperate finances, its a bit of a ‘user pays’ scenario. If i am not using the house, i shouldnt be paying for it.
She was bot happy with that at all. Additionally she was also having to consider the logistics of someone having to come to look after her kids if i wasnt there, such as a nanny.
It all seemed a bit like i was causing her some ‘inconvenience’...

OP posts:
19lottie82 · 22/10/2018 00:14

I hope this has opened your eyes a bit wider OP. She’s a user. Divorce her and take the job!

CupMug · 22/10/2018 00:19

Sounds like it’s time to call it a day. She sounds awful and selfish.

I’d completely cut ties and not look back.

Don’t let her take advantage of you anymore.

Good luck.

1MillionSelfiesTakenByMyKids · 22/10/2018 00:40

Exactly - you've been providing free childcare, and possibly housework services yet she's still expecting you to pay half and sub her lifestyle? There's a thread currently running where a young woman is in thos situation (minus the kids) and every poster is advising she LTB ASAP as he's taking advantage at best. This is the same with you. Her priorities take priority. She's using you to make her life easier, fit in around her and then making you pay for the privilege? DTB (ditch the bitch)

MarilynsDressOnAVent · 22/10/2018 01:39

Take the job OP and leave your rotten wife. She really is taking the piss out of you.
Tell her that if she needs someone to cover half the rent then she should move her ex in. After all, she's already playing happy families with him in every other respect. She might as well go the whole way.

She wanted a visa and an anchor and she took advantage of you.

Go. Enjoy your new life and new freedom.

HouseOnTheLake · 22/10/2018 01:44

It doesn't even sound like she'll miss you, it's all about how inconvenienced she'll be by you leaving! I'm another one who wouldn't be surprised if she moved the ex in.

You'll never meet people and feel less lonely if you continue in this 'relationship'. You deserve better.

HamiltonCork · 22/10/2018 01:53

Take the job and don't look back. She's using you.

good luck.

Tattybear16 · 22/10/2018 02:27

This is the saddest thing I’ve read on here for ages. You sound a lovely man who is being used. Move on with your life, you are not happy, it’s not getting any better and it’s still all about her. I wouldn’t treat a dog like that, letting you walk round with holes in your shoes fgs.

She doesn’t care enough about you, to consider your needs, she’s just using you. You are a lodger in your own home, there is no respect from her for you. You deserve better. Being lonely in a marriage is much worse than being lonely when you’re on your own. Enjoy you’re new job, see it as a new door opening and embrace it.

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