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Screwed up... again

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User1756 · 03/10/2018 01:29

Not sure how to tackle this one...
I am a divorced man with two children at 18 and 21. Been remarried for two years now to a nice but very career driven lady with two 10 and 11 yr old children. They are from another country, as am I, (different to thiers, but i have a UK passport, they an ILR).
We have had a few issues come to light in our relationship and i do not know if i am seeing things as i should.

My wifes family speak another language as well as English and i have struggled to learn thiers. As a result i am often excluded from
converations on the basis that the ‘children must not loose thier language’ and so conversations go on without me. Visiting relatives coming to my home also insist that tbey speak thier language and it is for me to learn, not for them to engage me. If we are visiting them, i can often go for a few weeks speaking to very few people. My wife finds it annoying that i dont speak thier language and has pretty much ‘given up on me’ in that regard. Although we live in the uk, the home language is thiers, not english.

My wifes ex husband has only been very recently able to return back to the country after he had to leave for 3 years due to a visa issue. The children found it very hard. Now every effort is made to address his stability, including my wife arranging a job for him and paying for his housing for 6 months and receiving nothing from him in terms of mainatenance for many years. It often also happens that i will pay for many items for the children,as one would expect, when we are out and about. Because it is deemed important ‘that the children see thier father’ as much as possible after such a long time, my wife includes him in many of our family events, whether i am asked or not. Or she will simply go out with him and her children as a foursome with me staying home. For school issues etc, it is right that he goes with her but i do get irritated when he tags along for other things. In our discussions, she insisted that he is still ‘part of the family’ for the childrens sake. They are still quite close and she admits that she still cares deeply for him, because its good for the children. I find this hard.

My wife is paid very well for an executive level job and has a lot of family wealth and a considerable amount of money set aside. I work for myself but business is not doing well. We rent a house and pay half each. My children come to stay infrequently and thier is only me but my wife and stepchildren in the house. I am still expected to contribute 50:50. Our finances are seperate and our inly joint account is for the house. She has no wish to combine finds.That means at the end of the month i am in debt and she has a good amount left over. She often pays happily for the children's needs but is quite tight when we are out togeather. I end up paying for meals etc. I am very worried about my cash flow but am not comfident that i could rely on her if things started going south for me. I had a very bad situation last year where i needed help and ran out of cash. I had holes in my shoes and couldnt afford to replace them with a new pair for six months. She didnt notice ( i would not ask for a short term loan as that would be seen as a weakness in her eyes). she did however buy the children new clothes in addition to a new handbag whilst i walked around with wet feet. She often books expensive international yearly holidays which she will pay the ticket for with airmiles, but i am expected to pay the holiday expenses. The difficulty is that she can easily afford it whereas i cannot. She takes her children for a weeks holiday every year without me so that they get get some one on one time with her. I stay at home and look after the dog.

Although we are supposed to get every third weekend to ourselves where
The children see thier dad, she often ends up running around after the children on our one weekend a month (the ex doesnt have a car) so that in effect they are with us all the time still or she ends up driving them all to wherever they want to go. Despite my concerns, and requests that we have time to ourselves, i get the impression sometimes that she would rather be with them and so often ‘volunteers’ to assist in weekends which are not hers. The result is that she gets to see the girls almost every day despite them being with thier father, and we get little time alone. It feels a bit like she is trying to bring the family back togeather (again ‘for the childrens sake’) which of course the children absolutely love.

Our ‘intimate life’ is very mediocre and infrequent with her being ‘tired’ so she is glad to get to bed for an early night having worked all day (which i understand but am never the less frustrated by). When she isnt tired, she would rather cuddle up to her children than me and i often have to ask the children to leave the bedroom at night so i can get into my bed with her. All 3 look at me with an angry face as if i have broken up thier cuddle time despite it being 10pm. She then goes to sleep.

Life revolves around the children and every decision about our future seems to be based on them. The difficulty i have is that i am really worried about my future being so reliant on decisions which involve the comfort of others over mine. I have begun to feel that i have been used. Perhpas regarded as a bit of a ‘surrogate’ dad whilst the father was away. Now that he has returned i feel a bit side-lined. They all sit in my house speaking in thier own language with me not undefstnding the conversations, he is very involved in our life on a daily basis and any future decisions about where we live or how our live will look in the future will be based upon whether he can go too (for the childrens sake). I understand that happens when you marry someone with children but mine are not taken into account and it seems that the whole process is very one-sided and totally inflexible. If it means any disruption to her children or the reltionship with their dad who has been absent for a large prt of their life, its simply not for discussion.

There is a possibility in time that my wife will have to commute for work into the EU from mon-thursday which means seeing her even less. That would mean that i would end up looking after her children day to day whilst she was away working and thier dad was also working. As it is, my ‘work from home’ schedule means that i am often acting as the ‘manny’, picking children up from school and running errands for the family. I have only recently been able to put a stop to that as a daily expectation, as i now work a few days away from my local area and so have to work in the city for 3 days per week.

To cut a very long story short, i see my children about once a month as they are growing up ( i text or phone daily). I have not much money after my own divorce and no great income.
I have been offered a job in another country. We originally discussed moving to my home country for a few years when we first met. Now with the childrens father here after a protracted visa process, my wife says we will not be going anywhere unless he can come too and realistically she says that its unlikely she would follow me and move the children. That means i would have to go by myself. The job will mean me coming back every 8 weeks or so but i am not sure if things will ever work out. She is happy for me to go and realises that it would be good for me and my career ( i am 20 years from returement and am really treading water at the moment, thier being very few opirtunites in my sector at present). I do feel that if i took the job, it would put me back on a career track, it would pay very well and felieve my money worries and i would be overall happier. But in essence, i am not sure i would be missed that much and almost feel that it would be saying ‘goodbye’.

I am trying to second guess things a bit but do wonder whether she has a ‘this is the situation here, put up or shut up’ and is suggesting that i take the job knowing that it is an easy way of bringing a close to things amicably?

OP posts:
Clutterbugsmum · 03/10/2018 06:49

I'd take the job, and I would talk to a lawyer about starting divorce proceeding.

Being lonely in a marriage is far worse then being lonely and single.

AuntBeastie · 03/10/2018 07:00

It doesn’t sound like a relationship built on respect or equality, and your needs aren’t remotely being considered. It sounds like your partner is happy to take when it suits her and not give back in return. There will always be some conflicting priorities to manage in a blended family, but your situation goes beyond that because your partner is unwilling to ever prioritise you and in fact is putting her ex above you.

I think you should seriously question whether this relationship is worth fighting for, and whatever you decide in that regard you must definitely take this job. It’s too good an opportunity to lose for the sake of a relationship which isn’t working out.

PorridgeIsYummy · 03/10/2018 07:01

Oh, OP. You sound like such a reasonable and kind man. You have been very accommodating to your wife but ask yourself - would she have done the same with you if you were in her situation? No. Why then sacrifice this potential job - perhaps your only tangible chance at this stage to put your career back on track - for someone who simply doesn't care enough.

I wouldn't go as far as other posters who say you're a mug. You have been caring towards your wife and her children and that speaks volumes about the kind of person you are - it's just that she hasn't reciprocated by being caring about you. It's not you - it's her. This situation is simply not sustainable long term and I think you've come to accept that. If that's the case, then take control of your life. Make the decision that will help you put a stop to this life and go for that job. Don't make any more sacrifices for a family that doesn't feel like it's your own.

This job might or might not work the way you want, but what is certain is that the alternative is woese.

Good luck, OP x

Busyworkingbee · 03/10/2018 07:07

LTB!

AmIRightOrAMeringue · 03/10/2018 07:15

I'd leave

Absolutely she should put her children first but that can be done without treating you like she is

Its good she can still see her ex but you do need time alone as a couple which doesn't seem to be happening

The language thing - they do need to speak their own language or at that age they will lose it but that doesn't mean they shouldn't include you. There could be a rule such as English at the dinner table otherwise she should translate

The money for me is a major thing. You are meant to be a partnership but she is watching you struggle and pay half of everything that you can't afford while she pays 6 months accommodation for her ex. To me this isn't right and I think most people split living costs based on what they can afford if they have unequal earnings otherwise one of you has loads to spend while the other ends up in debt.

I'm not sure you are getting anything at all out of this relationship

It doesn't sound like there is much chance of it changing

If you want to give one last chance and think it's salvagable then I'd set some rules - you will pay x amount to live, as it's all you can afford. If she still needs it to be 50:50 then you move somewhere cheaper and cut back on expenses and holidays. English at the dinner table or they take it in turns to translate so you can be included in family talk. You spend x amount of time together as a couple with no kids. Or do you think she would go to counselling?

To be honest it sounds like there are a lot of separate issues. She doesn't sound like she wants to treat you as part of the family but charges you a lot of money to live in her house!

JupiterBelle · 03/10/2018 07:52

It sounds like she’s used you as a stopgap while her ex was away and now they’re playing happy families again.

Also thI language thing is a very rude!

Are you actually happy in your marriage? If not then take the job and separate.

JupiterBelle · 03/10/2018 07:53

*the language thing

Doyoumind · 03/10/2018 08:06

I don't think you should hesitate to take the job. Separate from her completely financially so that you don't have to pay for half of everything for her family and start divorce proceedings. Come back when you can to see your children and stay in a hotel. It will be cheaper than pouring money down the drain to stay in this relationship with someone who shows you no respect whatsoever. Get your career back on track and start enjoying life again.

User1756 · 03/10/2018 08:57

Thank you people,

I think our priorities are very different, or more that she has priorities that mean i cannot rely on her if needed. Its a bit like ‘come along for the ride if you want, but i cant help you with anything’. She says she has not lost the respect for me, but misses the confident and happy me.

I miss that ‘me’ too but cant help be upset that i have allowed the situation to develop. Cannot blame her, she is just looking after her and her children i guess

OP posts:
PorridgeIsYummy · 03/10/2018 08:58

Hi again OP,

For me the thing about your shoes is really telling. You felt you weren't able to tell your wife that yiu desperarely needed new shoes. You chose to have wet feet whilst seeing your wife spendcher money on herself and others. You felt you couldn't ask for something as badic as that.

That tells you all you need to know xx

User1756 · 03/10/2018 11:51

Thaanks all

Really appreciate the honest approach from everyone

OP posts:
Mxyzptlk · 03/10/2018 17:26

How can you be confident and happy while being sidelined by your wife?
Go for the job and see how you feel once you're out of the home situation.

HeebieJeebies456 · 03/10/2018 18:37

Been remarried for two years....My wifes ex husband has only been very recently able to return back to the country after he had to leave for 3 years due to a visa issue

Given that she is still clearly emotionally invested in her ex beyond a 'normal/acceptable' level, the timeline between his forced 'exile' and your marriage, i'd be very suspicious about why she chose to marry you.

also, it's one thing to safeguard your finances but quite another to be so selfish and self-serving that you'd let your partner walk around with holes in their shoes, and expect them to pay beyond their means even if it leaves them in financial poverty.

i would suggest paying in proportion to your incomes....and let her and their father pay for her dc expenses and fripperies.

she's using you and walking all over you, get rid.

WhereYouLeftIt · 03/10/2018 19:29

"She says she has not lost the respect for me, but misses the confident and happy me."
I wonder if she sees how she destroyed the confident and happy you. Sad

"I miss that ‘me’ too but cant help be upset that i have allowed the situation to develop. Cannot blame her, she is just looking after her and her children i guess"
Try to see it less as 'letting it happen' and more as 'your good nature was exploited'. She may not have set out to exploit you, but it does sound to me as if that is the end result.

And it's more than just her children that she has prioritised over you (which would have been acceptable to you and everyone else). She prioritises her wider family, her ex, her language, her career, her money - her claim to respect you rings hollowly indeed.

worstmotherintheworld · 03/10/2018 19:39

She's using you. You sound lovely but she does not respect you at all. If you are good enough to be involved in her childcare then you are good enough to be included in family conversations. Did she already have the right to reside in this country before she met you? It sounds as if she is doing an awful lot to ensure her ex's security in this country, I wonder if she has used you for this purpose. Move on and concentrate on yourself and your children.

User1756 · 03/10/2018 22:36

She was on a visa when we met but applied for an ILR after we married. She probably would have been eligable for that in time anyway. Marrying me just sped up the process. The childrens right to stay is based on her visa and the ex visa is based on the childrens with me being the ‘anchor’ to the uk as they are my step children, so it strengthens his application to get a visa

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YeahILoveSummer · 03/10/2018 22:55

Sorry you are in this horrible situation. To be honest it does sound like she has little respect for you. The language issue is also very rude! Think about yourself and take the job as your wife is not thinking about you. You deserve better. Good luck

HeebieJeebies456 · 04/10/2018 00:05

cut the anchor - asap.
she's used you to get her 'ex' back here and so they can play happy families at your expense.
she could well be having an affair with him.

bowdownbeforelokitty · 04/10/2018 04:33

Yeah seems like your marriage was one of convenience that has run its course, and your usefulness is diminishing in her eyes. Usually it's a women OP with a DP holding purse strings, but really the advice is the same man or woman as your in a dead end relationship, and best to jump ship on your own terms before your pushed.

FaithHopeAndSkulduggery · 04/10/2018 04:48

Ltb

Devilishpyjamas · 04/10/2018 05:10

Leave, this isn’t a good marriage.

Are you being used for visa reasons?

KC225 · 04/10/2018 06:29

Have you spoken to your wife about how you feel? How do you think she would take it if you wanted a fairer split of the finances and the one weekend you spend together to mean she didn't run off the her ex? Do you even want it to work?

I totally get how isolating the language barrier is. I too am married to a European and living in his country, I have struggled to learn to language but his family insist it is my refusal that stops me. Sometimes I am sat on the edge of the table whilst conversation goes in around me, and then someone throws the odd - its about the neighbour. Its very frustrating. Have you explained this to her?

I agree with the others, I think you went into this marriage with good intentions but your wife went into it for security for her and the children, perhaps even a way of securing the ex's visa. Without your help financially and looking after her children she would not have been able to further her career but where is the benefit for you, holes in your shoes whilst you pay for the ex husbands accommodation. Come on OP.

I don't think she has fully disengaged from the ex. Of course it's good to have an amicable relationship with an ex especially when children are involved but she actively chooses to spend with him over you. She gives up her time to be alone with you, to be with them. I agree with the poster above, who said take the job abroad and she will move her ex into your house.

Your updates on here seem to imply a slow realisation of what you already knew. You have to ask yourself what do you want? Do you think it can change? If not, please protect yourself. If you do take the job abroad, please sort out your home life first or you will be paying more for a hell of a lot less.

Doingreat · 04/10/2018 08:25

She's using you op. I really feel for you. She is a cold calculating person who has played the long game by using you to get her ex back to this country. Start divorce proceedings, refuse to be used, she will dump you soon. Save your money. Stop paying for her and her children. Move out and sto contributing a penny.

ShartGoblin · 04/10/2018 09:19

It's so easy to find yourself trapped in a relationship because you're used to it or it's easier than leaving. You find yourself remembering the good times and waiting for them to come back and you don't see that you're slowly breaking.

I think you need to take a deep breath and imagine feeling this way for the rest of your life. I suspect the feeling is not a good one.

Now imagine going alone to a completely different opportunity. You will have financial security, you will meet new people and there's a good chance of you meeting someone that you can actually share your life with.

It's terrifying, it's a massive change and it will hurt. Once the fog of grief clears however, I suspect you will feel like someone has unlocked the shackles that seem to be slowly killing your spirit.

Please leave and go on this adventure, it will change your life for the better Flowers

LJFM2B · 04/10/2018 10:08

Im really sorry your going through this, sounds awful. I think all mothers put there children first and thats great but you sound well and truly her lowest priority.

You only get one life, as much as you may hate the fact of splitting from a second wife i think for your own sanity you should take the job, do a few things you want to do and enjoy your life... see your kids when your home from being away and be a dad to them and almost forget about the family you are very much separated from ... you deserve your own happiness

Sorry OP

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