Flying on Holiday to Around Brexit Date. Would you?

[KennDodd]

I haven't booked yet. I have contacted my insurance company and travel agent (haven't asked airline) and asked if I would be covered if my holiday was disrupted/cancelled due to planes not flying or other chaos. They have both basically said they don't know. I assume EU consumer law would also no longer apply?

AIBU to write to fucking twat Dominic Raab and ask him to personally guarantee (with financial compensation from his own pocket) that I will not lose money and my holiday won't be disrupted?

I'm off to Greece on Apr11th - I have every faith in the abilities of the International Aviation Industry to ensure that this will still be doable - I might need a Visa or some other 'hoop' I need to jump through post-Brexit, but the ability to fly from the UK to Greece should be fine.

It went on for years pre-EASA (founded 2002) and will continue to do so. If I'm wrong, I'll alter my plans and travel via the EU.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/flights-to-and-from-the-uk-if-theres-no-brexit-deal/flights-to-and-from-the-uk-if-theres-no-brexit-deal

Thanks gender looks like all scenarios are being planned for;

Very good link.

I planned to but then decided UK was a safer option. Cornwall for me too. It's only a holiday, it isn't worth risking getting into a stressful situation for.

Tbh, brexit never crossed my mind when I booked easyjet flights to Italy for Easter last week.

looks like all scenarios are being planned for
I see little or no evidence of true planning.
Identifying the pothole in the road ahead does not patch it.

I normally go abroad in April.
NO WAY am I booking anything until I see hard evidence that my bookings will be honoured.

The UK Government has still not clarified what it wants from Brexit
making it a tad hard for the EU to sort out the details

I get your drift FaFo - but I live so close to Cornwall - I like a break in scenery. I will also admit that I do find sudden changes to travel plans, once en route, part of the travel 'challenge' - and fully appreciate the ease with which we can travel - to all points, not just the EU.

DS will be 17 and travelled enough to not be too concerned by travel changes, maybe not so 10 years ago.

Pre-1992, it wasn't always so easy to hop on a flight to Greece without the possibility of hassle at the 'border'.

I also admit to being a bit blase about it.

I had assumed that the document linked to was the reason for the OP's question in the first place, because it doesn't really answer the problem. It basically says that the UK's preference would be to retain a multilateral agreement - so what we have now - but we already know that the EU is not letting us retain such agreements under any of the scenarios we propose. So we're down to the alternative option, which is bilateral agreements with individual countries. As each EU country currently works with us under the existing multilateral EU agreement, we'd be starting from scratch with each one. Like I said above, we can't just snap our fingers and magic each one up in seconds. It's lovely that people "have faith", but it's graft and time that drafts contracts, not faith.

Talking Peace you see no evidence because you don't want to. It is very clearly written. Try and see it as a separate issue without your Brexit Goggles on.

And Brexit Goggles do that flippy thing where only the Red lenses can see certain pictures and the Green ones can only see the other ones.

I don't wear Brexit Goggles myself so I can still read black/white texts.

We’re booked to go to Spain 23rd to 30th March because I totally forgot (still can’t believe this thing is happening, really). Hmm.

Er - it says that each Airline needs to enter into an Agreement - totally normal and no biggie.

It’s in the EU member states’ interests to allow flights to carry on uninteruppted, plus ferries, channel tunnel etc. How many EU airlines fly into / out of Britain every day?

Does anyone seriously believe that the governments of 28 states will allow a situation to arise where there would be thousands of Brits trapped in 27 countries, and thousands of Europeans trapped in the UK, all because we are leaving a club?

Yes I do, the UK is going to get hammered as a warning to the others.

Hateis
I do not have "Brexit Goggles" on
I have "contract law" goggles on
Even if all of the airlines throw all of their resources at it with each and every government,
replacing one multilateral agreement with hundreds of bilateral ones will not happen overnight.
Heathrow are budgeting a month at least
I suspect they know which forms need filling out .....

We are planning to go to Italy for a big family celebration in July but my dad especially is worried about he affects of leaving the EU and the trip actually taking place.

I really don't know much about this at all and have been trying to get up to speed on it all but am a bit confused. Are my family being a bit silly by not even booking for July? My dad has a tendency to be negative and panic so not sure if that's the case here or not.

From the government paper:

In order to ensure permissions were granted and flights continued, the UK’s preference would be to agree a basic arrangement or understanding on a multilateral basis between the UK and the EU

So if the UK leaves the EU without a deal, the preference is to ask for a deal for flights.

And a deal for aircraft and pilot certifications. And a deal for medicines. And a deal for food. And for car parts. And for financial services. And chemicals...

Anyone else see a flaw in this strategy?

Hey no prb Taldapees - I'm off on holiday then, maybe you won't be. Probably you'll be too busy reading UK or EU Contract Law into every Contract Law that ever existed or even doesn't.

Your choice and my choice. Night for Now. - I'm Leaving...On a Jet Plane ....Don't know when I'll be back again......

No-one flew before the Treaty of Maastricht was ratified in 1994. And the 167 countries that have not signed it are unable to function at all.

Ha ha ha

A New deal SUPERCEDES an old one - it ceases to be valid

and non EU countries have deals that do not rely on their EU membership

I wouldn’t. We decided not to risk the family ski trip organised by DS’s school and departing 30 March.

Gosh there’s a lot of Timothy timid’s on here

we were going to go away May half term but have shelved it I foresee carnage at airports and the pound being so devalued everything will cost a fortune.
If By some miracle it isn't a massive fuck up will look to go later in the year

I'm not timid.
I just CBA to bock holidays at stressful times
same as I do not go to known stressful locations.

I just got home from two weeks long haul to south Asia - I love travel
but do not trust politicians

Martin Lewis has just said on live tv (re easyjet flights + brexit) that people should book if they want to, that he would.
Our of curiosity I checked the price of my flights to Venice 13/19 April and they have more than doubled since I booked them on release day. It’s obviously not putting people off.

DS flies to France on 30th March for his school ski trip - I’m not the slightest bit concerned.