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AIBU to follow through on police report?

59 replies

44v88x7p · 23/09/2018 01:46

Hi, my first post here - I love mumsnet but have never before felt the need to post.

I want to know if AIBU to follow through a report I made to the police and I’m hoping the collective wisdom of mumsnetters will help.

Tonight I had to call 111 for my DGM who has multiple serious health issues - think cardiac/respiratory. Her symptoms triggered an Ambulance call out (the paramedics told me off when they arrived as I should have called 999 directly).

The paramedics arrived and started medical tests (ECG, blood sugar, etc). They also have her oxygen and medication to try to make it easier for her to breath.

Whilst the paramedics are treating
DGM and trying to take medical history our NDN phones us - demanding we make the paramedics turn off the ambulance lights as they are keeping her awake, this was at about 11pm.

I tried to tell her calmly that now wasn’t a good time, she became increasingly louder and aggressive swearing and demanded to speak to the paramedics.

The paramedics were very professional and explained that they were attending an emergency and that the lights had to stay on. After some more verbal abuse from NDN one of the paramedics went outside to call for the police. NDN seems to hear this down the phone line and hangs up.

NDN then comes storming onto our property, and let’s herself in the closed front door and begins screaming and swearing at myself, DGP and the paramedics about how she’s being inconvenienced and that this happens all the time (Both my DGP have serious disabilities/health issues and about once a month an ambulance is required - often requested by GP/111). NDN refused to leave.

I admit I panicked and I dialled 999 for the police.

As this was going on the paramedic who went out came back in as the stress was causing DGM symptoms to worsen. Then went back out and moved the ambulance as the situation has escalated out of control - and are happy that I’m already on the phone to the police, who say they’re on the way as the operator could hear NDN.

NDN realises I was on the phone to the police and storms out of our house.

I let the police operator know this and as NDN has left and paramedics are in attendance the police will still need to come but at a lower priority (completely fine I understand it’s saturday night). Obviously if she comes back dial police emergency again.

DGM is now hysterical and symptoms have worsened. As suspected DGM needed to go to the hospital for further treatment. At first she refused further care as she felt guilty for all the trouble but paramedics calmed her down. Unfortunately DGM had to go alone as DGF needs 24 hour care and is wheelchair bound.

Police called to take more details and to give a crime reference number and to say someone would be out later tonight.

As DGMs condition is as yet unclear and I may have to get myself and DGF to hospital at short notice/ in the early hours of the morning we agreed that when the situation is clearer in the morning police will be coming to take statements.

We’ve previously got on okay with NDN so I’m very distressed and confused about the events tonight and me and DGF aren’t sure about police involvement.

However the police let us know that it’s almost certain that the Ambulance service will be making a report of their own due to zero tolerance policies for abuse of NHS staff. So it is out of our hands to an extent.

AIBU to have called the police? Should I make a statement that the police want?

AIBU to think that police or no police, NDN behaviour was BU?

Please let’s not argue about Ambulance call outs. 9/10 they are requested by GP/111. And my DGF is housebound he is often picked up in Ambulances to transport him to hospital appointments as it’s been agreed as the safest way to move him. Even our GP makes house calls and pharmacy delivers medication.

Both DGP have disabilities/conditions that are serious and can deteriorate and become life threatening very quickly and that normally need treatment and monitoring on route to hospital.

OP posts:
Aquamarine1029 · 23/09/2018 05:16

You MUST make a statement to the police and don't hold anything back. What your neighbours did is criminal and repugnant. How dare they!

klondike555 · 23/09/2018 05:44

YANBU

Your NDN is a despicable person. She needs to have the full weight of the law, as it applies in this case, bearing down on her.

For all the paramedics knew, NDN could have become violent at any moment. No one should have to deal with that.

Knitjob · 23/09/2018 05:48

Your NDN was wrong. I hope you DGM is feeling better this morning.

But why do ambulances have to keep their lights flashing? Is it just if they are parked somewhere a car might not see them? It would be annoying if flashing lights were going off outside your bedroom window for a long time. (But obviously not as annoying as needing an ambulance, and certainly not worth behaving like your neighbour did)

PhilomenaButterfly · 23/09/2018 05:53

What is wrong with your NDN? What a selfish prat.

NotNachoing · 23/09/2018 06:36

Definitely follow through. YANBU.

Groovee · 23/09/2018 06:48

NDN needs to understand that their behaviour caused more distress at a time that was distressing enough.

Follow through!

DailyMailWankers · 23/09/2018 07:18

Another one for follow through. Without consequences the vile NDN will just do this again next time.

Hope your DGM is feeling better today Flowers

Jessbow · 23/09/2018 07:19

knitjob- I wondered the same.

Why does an ambulance need to leave it blue light flashing , when the paramedics and in the house with a patient?

If the paramedic had the time to go outside and call the police, why didn't they just turn the blue flashing light off, which would have diffused the situation?

AnotherExWife · 23/09/2018 07:28

YANBU!! The next door neighbour was completely out of order. It sounds like the ambulance call outs will continue (as they should as the paramedics were obviously needed) so your next door neighbour needs to learn that her behaviour is unacceptable or else she'll carry on.

I hope your dgm is doing ok in hospital and getting the treatment she needs Flowers

tootstastic · 23/09/2018 07:31

I assume the blue lights are left on to show drivers/pedestrians/further emergency vehicles where the emergency is happening and keep area clear so that the ambulance can pull out quickly when ready to fly off to hospital.

bastardkitty · 23/09/2018 07:36

Please do make the statement. WTF is actually wrong with people.

LadyGAgain · 23/09/2018 07:39

How's your DGM this morning OP?
You did everything right and your NDN is despicable. File your complaint and statements and let the police deal with anti social behaviour.
We can only function as a society if everyone plays their part. Compassion and understanding are fundamental to this and your NDN failed on every level.

KitandPup · 23/09/2018 07:52

Hope your DGM is ok.

Absolutely follow it through. What a twunt.

I used to live in a litle cul de sac where all our neighbours were very elderly. Frequent ambulance visits. It never, ever crossed my mind to complain! What is wrong with people.

I've heard a lot of these stories recently. Hopefully if more people call the police the message will get through that it is not OK. It could be them needing that ambulance one day

BeautifulPossibilities · 23/09/2018 08:01

She wasn't just abusing the elderly she was abusing ambulance staff. I'd be upholding the complaint. How dare she let herself in to the house?

Elderflower14 · 23/09/2018 08:11

Another vote for making the report. The emergency services get so much undeserved flack for doing their jobs.

Isleepinahedgefund · 23/09/2018 08:49

Totally agree you should follow through with it. Even if you were ok with your NDN before, how can you be now? Disgraceful behaviour and they need to be called out on it by the authorities. The paramedics don’t deserve to be subjected to this any more than you or your GPs do, and the fact their job was made so much harder by this woman to me means she needs to be told by the police.

Hope your Grandma is on the mend.

SoupDragon · 23/09/2018 08:53

Your neighbour is an arse.

Absolutely follow it up.

SlowDown76mph · 23/09/2018 09:02

Yes, you must follow through. At a very basic level, it is your duty to do so.

HolidayModeMum · 23/09/2018 09:05

You would be unreasonable if you didn't make a full statement!!! Your NDN is a selfish idiot who put lives at risk and hampered paramedics trying to work.
Report. Report. Report.

Notmyideamovingon · 23/09/2018 09:16

I think you would be unreasonable not to make a statement.I hope your dgm is feeling better this morning.

Celebelly · 23/09/2018 09:17

The NDN is a disgusting specimen of humanity. Christ almighty. They deserve everything they get.

beanaseireann · 23/09/2018 09:35

Your ndn is a coward.
Didn't they disappear when they heard the police were involved ?

whiteroseredrose · 23/09/2018 09:52

Please do follow through. What is wrong with some people. Its appalling that people are so selfish that they think that their inconvenience is more important than someone else's life. A blue flashing light means an emergency which tops anything else.

comedycentral · 23/09/2018 10:12

What an awful night. I hope you are all ok. I would follow up the report, they need to know how appauling they are!

On a side note I would ask for this post to be removed now that you have advice or at least ask for the majority of the detail to be removed from your first post as the daily mail might publish it as a story. If that happens it could jeopardise this case and prevent a prosecution.

pointythings · 23/09/2018 10:32

Absolutely follow through. Your NDN needs to learn that she cannot behave like that. The NHS takes a very dim view of people abusing its staff, so back them up and let the law do its thing - she deserves all of it.

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