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To ask for help? Where in SE london can we hire Dove release?

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mumof2andsurviving · 22/09/2018 22:33

My MIL died recently. We are all devastated. In talking to one of her dearest friends, she told her "if anything happens to me can you let the family know that I want doves released at my funeral". We have no idea where to start.

Does anyone know of anywhere that releases doves on occasions like this? The need to be able to travel to SE london/Kent borders.

OP posts:
Aridane · 22/09/2018 22:37

www.funeraldovesinessex.co.uk

Aridane · 22/09/2018 22:38

(it sounds a lovely symbolic gesture)

Zintox · 22/09/2018 22:39

Don't. It's cruel to the birds. They're not toys. I'm sorry for your loss but please don't do a dove release.

Aridane · 22/09/2018 22:39

www.thewhitedovecompany.co.uk/funerals

PickAChew · 22/09/2018 22:41

Do people really still do this?

Aridane · 22/09/2018 22:41

dovesforfuneral.com

Wickerwillow · 22/09/2018 22:45

Don't do it. It's an incredibly cruel thing to do. Causing suffering to a living creature is not the way to pay tribute to a loved one.

Ellisandra · 22/09/2018 23:00

No idea where the start?
Google: funeral dove release Essex
Job done.
Though I would research the welfare issue first.
I’m sorry for your loss Flowers

Costacoffeeplease · 22/09/2018 23:05

Please don’t

Thomlin · 22/09/2018 23:09

Another one saying please don't. In the nicest possible way she's dead, she won't know.

mumof2andsurviving · 22/09/2018 23:20

Another one saying please don't. In the nicest possible way she's dead, she won't know

But we will know. And her friend will know. I will research it. Thank you for the replies and suggestions.

OP posts:
kmc1111 · 23/09/2018 00:17

Please don’t. It’s an incredibly cruel thing to do, and no one would think it was a nice symbol if they understood that the poor birds suffer and usually die, rather than fly away to freedom.

ambostraw · 23/09/2018 00:21

Yeah don't do this. Or at the very least, research what you are planning before going ahead.

catinboots9 · 23/09/2018 00:21

Naff and cruel. Please don't.

Is there another way you could celebrate your MIL?

ConsiderHerWaysAndOthers · 23/09/2018 00:29

Killing some birds is not a fit way to honour anyone. I’d be utterly disgusted to go a funeral that did this. I am very sorry about your MIL but if she’d asked you to murder some poor defensless animals in any other way surely you wouldn’t do it, please reconsider.

Gingersstuff · 23/09/2018 00:45

Another one saying please don't do this. I'm pretty sure anyone with any compassion would be horrified at the thought of creatures suffering at what was supposed to be their memorial occasion. I suspect your MIL thought it would be a nice idea but had no clue about the cruelty involved.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 23/09/2018 00:57

Another one saying please don't. It's disgusting and cruel.

SignOnTheWindow · 23/09/2018 01:09

I'm sure if your MIL and her friend had known about the animal welfare aspect, neither would have wanted it.

Balloons and lanterns are also very dangerous to wildlife.

How about giving those at the funeral some wild-flower seeds to sow in her memory instead?

SignOnTheWindow · 23/09/2018 01:10

And I'm very sorry for your loss Flowers

MaggieSimpsonsPacifier · 23/09/2018 01:34

Very sorry for your family’s loss Flowers

Another one saying please don’t because of the welfare aspect - the poor birds Sad. Gentle, loyal and usually poorly equipped with any sort of survival skills, they don’t just fly off and live happily ever after. Even white homing pigeons can have a sad end, and shouldn’t be used by humans in this way anyway.

Your MIL probably didn’t realise what it actually means for the birds - is there something else you could release in her name and memory?

dontgobaconmyheart · 23/09/2018 03:02

Sorry for you loss OP, truly.
However, it is incredibly cruel. Ultimately there is no 'release' symbolising freedom, they are white homing pigeons, who are caged and trained to return to a cage- the gesture is moot.
What is additionally sad is that they quite often don't make it back due to making easy prey, as domesticated bird, for larger birds of prey, getting lost injured or run over etc.
I've seen a couple in real life at weddings ( would not have gone if i had knows) and it was horribly sad to be honest, most of the birds didn't want to leave the cage and had to be grappled out to try and get the intended effect of them flying peacefully off into the sunset. It was a vulgar and cruel sight.

Perhaps you could honour your MIL, who was presumably a lover of birds, by donating the money to a sanctuary or having a plaque put up by sponsoring a rescued bird or similar.

user764329056 · 23/09/2018 03:04

Please don’t do it OP, the poor birds really suffer which I’m sure your mum would never have wanted

TuMeke · 23/09/2018 06:20

Sorry for your loss OP Flowers

The dove release thing really is a pretty cruel practice; I’m sure, like most people, your MIL didn’t realise that. Can you maybe think of a gesture involving doves that’s more symbolic? For example, giving all the mourners a tiny dove figurine in your mum’s memory? Something like this perhaps? That could let you meet the spirit of what your MIL asked for, and also give something for people to remember her by, but without any animal suffering.

speakout · 23/09/2018 06:28

Another one that thinks it's a cruel thing to do.

Doves are not toys, playthings or commodities to be released like balloons.

They are animals with feelings, feel fear and stress and many deaths occur at these releases. I don't see how killing a few animals is a nice way to honour your MIL. I wouldn't attend a funeral if there was going to be a dove release

www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-25910398

www.pigeonrescue.org/faqs-2/why-dove-releases-are-cruel/

FurryDice · 23/09/2018 06:29

It’s cruel. Please take on board all the people saying don’t do it

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