To think life shouldn’t be easier for those on benefits than those who work?

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obviously not including the disabled, elderly etc in this

I am so fed up of being poor so I looked into doing an access course to increase my earning potential. My sister is doing one and is currently on benefits, she gets it for free with her childcare paid.

Having spoken to them, we earn too much to be considered for help. Having looked into mine and my sisters finances I think this is frankly bloody ridiculous. We are worse off than her ffs.

We make around £2,500 NET p/m, £1000 rent, £900 childcare -2 adults, 2 kids. So £600 ‘disposable’ pm with a lot of debts to pay.

She gets £670pm plus her full rent paid and a council tax reduction for her and one child.

AIBU to think life shouldn’t be ‘easier’ for those on benefits than those who work?

DP hasn’t been to the dentist despite needing to for years as he can’t afford treatment, I’m really down today. Seriously considering moving out so that I can claim benefits and get out of this horrible rut.

What is a ponce? The urban dictionary thinks it is a pimp or effeminate man, which makes no sense in the context you used it. Also, how do you know your neighbour have 'never' worked? It seems an odd thing to come up in conversation and I can't imagine someone rocking up to their neighbours and saying, "Hey, have you ever worked?"

You don't know what a ponce is? I find that hard to believe. Look in the dictionary and you will find this........Seek to obtain (something) without paying for it or doing anything in return.

"Iponceda ciggieoffher"

Secondly........ My boy is friends with their twins, and we are friendly with their parents, and the grandmother. Lovely people, but we know they have never worked.

My friend's DD got pregnant at 15 and gave birth just after her 16th birthday. The pregnancy wasn't accidental. For a year she remained living in the family home with her baby, in her bedroom. But when she turned 17 she applied for her own house which she got, a 2 bedroom new build. Why? Why was this granted when she already had accomodation in the family home? Relationship between her and her parents was very good. Her rent was paid for and so was her childcare while she faffed about doing some vague childcare course at college. Because she lumped on nearly 5 stone in weight she suffered with joint and walking issues so got help with a mobility funded car She got pregnant again at 18 so she applied for a larger house, back in the same 'nice' suburb her parents lived in for 'their support'. Before she moved in both kitchen and bathroom were replaced and new carpets and freshly decorated. Still getting housing paid for etc. She's now in her early twenties and pregnant again for the third time and has never worked a day in her life. It's sickening.

The benefits family i know have just decided to throw a suprise party in a pub with food provided by outside caterers in 3 weeks time. I'd have to plan something like that for months to be able to afford it. And the reason for the party on an adults normal birthday think age 23 - they deserve a treat as they have done so well following weight loss surgery on the nhs.

Cue someone coming on to talk about how they are on disability benefits. Which doesn’t just allow for a reasonable living standard but for a standard far and above what anyone who works for a living can afford

I can't believe that mc sounding people are so bitter and jealous towards those on benefits, it's quite weird really. I bet they'd swap their opportunities in life for yours. We are a low income family and I wouldn't swop for a life on benefit, although we do get tc/cb

Opportunity requires effort. The people I know who fester on benefits have no intention of implimenting any of that

Plenty of people on disability benefits work for a living.

And the ones I know, don’t. They simply exist on huge sums of money per week.

People on here protesting that this isn't a benefits bashing thread, but there are plenty of posts here bashing people on benefits.

I'm on benefits and it is not easy. I manage my budget well only to be left with pennies for the last week of the month. Ended up in an council maisonette I hate unable to find any other house that will take me simply because I am on benefits because clearly I'm going to trash the place and also not pay my rent on time. I'm desperately trying to find a job to increase my income and move house. Life on benefits is not easy at all

Whether they work or not the disability benefit they get will be the same.

OP, the OU need to advise pre-entry access courses for basic study skills now as all students need to apply and pay tuition fee loans now, degree courses have to follow a more structured curriculum pathway and regional centres have closed down all over the country limiting the face-to-face and phone support students used to have. When I did my last module & needed guidance from my tutor we met up at the regional centre, we had access to study rooms, study groups and a library. That closed down a few years ago and that was the regional HQ for the West Midlands.

Benefit bashing is certainly in this post by numerous people and actually it's very discriminating. The funny thing is these certain people actually think life is easy on benefits... Well it's not its hard and depressing but for some people have no choice eg disabled, carers like myself and others. Stop listening to tory propaganda. Remember no job is safe and those people bashing people on benefits could very well end up on it themselves.

I don’t ‘listen to propaganda’ I WATCH people fuck the system and HEAR them bark about how fucking awesome it is to ‘earn’ £500 a week and do fuck all for it. The system is broken. That’s why some people struggle and others do not.

They dont decorate or carpet your council house for you and they only put in new bathrooms and kitchens when they need doing and you dont just get a new house just becsuse you have another baby , same sex siblings can share up tp 15 boys and girls untill, and i do agree with the op but lets not make things up

Oh and neither do you get a mobility car for being five stone over weight , if so where can i apply ?my son has severe autism hes 8 and cant talk and has no sense of danger he doesnt qualify for a mobilitu car so i very much doubt an overweight person doez

Boys and girls can share up till10.

Soooo, just for a laugh and before I get kicked out. We have joint income of 70k. However, so take home after tax, NI and pension is use over 4 k. Childcare 1.4 k, mortgage 1k, bills .5k, cars 0.5 k, debts (student & other) 0.8k.oh and oh pays ex £350 per month.so just where is money meant to be saved?

The whole system in this country Is a joke. We pay far too much for properties that are worth bugger all. That is the problem. If there was descent properties for decent prices then people would be able to pay for childcare etc. Although in most of the EU that is subsidised as they have realised that they are the future of their lives and econonmy.

amd my neighbour gets a mobility car for her bad knee that she can walk 2 miles on easily. Shall I ask for advice?

Propaganda, ffs! I sleep on my living room floor for two years as my daughter needs her own bedroom and I'm not entitled to apply for social housing as there is none. I spent over six months with no income waiting to sort benefits when I had to leave my job care FT for my DD.

CantankerousCamel Mon 24-Sep-18 18:15:51

"Cue someone coming on to talk about how they are on disability benefits. Which doesn’t just allow for a reasonable living standard but for a standard far and above what anyone who works for a living can afford" Owen Jones tackled this well in his book Chavs. He said that some are happy to assume that claimants are all the same just because of a few cases Yet no one assumes that all doctors are serial killers just because Harold Shipman was one.

sorry cant do paragrapths thanks to MN glitch The sentence in the commas is what Camel wrote. I can add this now though Also no one assumes all surgeons are butchers just because Ian Paterson was.