Am I clutching pearls unnecessarily?

[anotherNCmn]

Appear to be watching women's wrestling (not on purpose, telly left on while I was working)

There are children, maybe 8-11 ish being shown in the audience

Viper??? Plus size woman in fishnets and leotard has just bodyslammed Ayesha who is also in fishnets and leather

I'm thinking a) incredibly sexualised clothing to take your kids to go watch

And b) wtf if a serious injury happens? I know these things can be staged but how do you stage a plus size woman jumping and landing on stomach of a much slimmer woman?

It's not exactly martial arts where people are respectful is it? (Id happily take my primary school child to judo match etc)

For me watching it - I couldn't care less. 8-11 year old boys though I'm rather shocked

Just the boys

Oh fgs pass the thread on

I've said it seems sexualised costume with young boys in the audience and expressed I wasn't sure how you stage a heavy woman landing on another woman's stomach

I've also said I am plus size so I certainly have nothing against plus size women!

So it’s only sexualised if there are young boys in the audience?

Yes, we know what you said. We are asking why?

I am still waiting for you to explain what 'sexualised clothing' is.

But I find the specifics of 8 - 11 year old boys a bit interesting too, perhaps you could explain what will happen to 8 year old boys who see a pair of fishnets. Like I said earlier DD's younger sibling saw her in fishnets earlier, but younger sibling is a girl so presumably that why we didn't get any the same effect!

No it's the parents taking young boys to go watch that shocked me more

I haven't watched wrestling before but it's shown on telly late at night and when they panned to the boys it has shocked me

What has shocked you OP? What?

You think the parents are sexualising the clothing and then taking their children to see it? TBH it sounds like you’re the only one sexualising the clothing.

Why is that any more sexual than what male wrestlers wear??

I actually watched this. I grew up with wwf and it was all men. Was so pleased.to see women take part.

Frankly you have invented the sexualised part, the male wrestlers are naked apart from their briefs!! Also of course its staged ffs!!!

Iv not read the thread yet but this is hulk hogan in his tiny yellow pants ripping his tshirt off, which became a his standard act!
He was a massive star in wrestling when I was young no one has ever said anything like what you have said about him or any other male wrestler in their tiny tiny pants

I took my DC to see some sort of wrestling thing locally (no idea what it’s called but they tour) and two of the men were wearing the tiniest gold and silver hot pants. Kylie Minogue would have been proud.

expressed I wasn't sure how you stage a heavy woman landing on another woman's stomach

Then why not phrase it as a question, rather than as a heavily-weighted judgement?

As I am not a wrestler (but I know a lot of women who are), I'll do my best to answer: the moves are highly choreographed and rehearsed, by athletes/performers who put a huge amount of time into doing what they do.

My sport of rugby is considerably less rehearsed and potentially considerably more dangerous, but I have somehow survived having my head stood on by people who weigh twice what I do, by training, practising, and maintaining my fitness, because that's how sport, of any kind, works.

I'd recommend watching the recent BBC documentary 'Fight Like a Girl', which I think is on iPlayer, for more insight.

It’s pretty standard for women’s wrestling. The men are in tiny little pants, chests oiled up with their genitalia line visible, are they sexualised too?

Surely a leotard is just sensible.

You need something thats not likely to catch on anything and that your opponent can't easily grab hold of.
There's not much else that would do that.

Also Yabvvvvvu to slag off her weight and dress it up as fear of hurting other wrestlers - every single movement is choreographed, they don’t land on them properly, you obviously don’t know much about it.

Are you concerned when the big bulky men jump on men smaller then? Or is that ok? If so, why do they get pass?

Considering I am plus size how am I slagging off her weight? I've said myself jumping on someone would bloody hurt. Irrespective of what I look like - being heavier I will cause more injury than someone lighter

Only on MN you'll find people appalled at violence in video games and cartoons but happily taking their children to go watch staged violence as being empowering to women

They're not exactly acting like they don't hurt each other - even if they don't!

You’re still being nasty about her weight regardless of what size you are, you’re implying she will hurt the smaller woman because she’s plus size. That’s a nasty thing to say.

You asked if you were being unreasonable, people answered. Don’t watch it if you don’t like it, don’t take your kids to see it. Sorted!

happily taking their children to go watch staged violence as being empowering to women

So no more superhero movies or comics for kids then?

You should watch GLOW OP. Shows you how it’s all choreographed and rehearsed.

Irrespective of what I look like - being heavier I will cause more injury than someone lighter

And everybody who knows anything about wrestling has come back to tell you that no, that's not actually the case: yes, wrestlers do get hurt, but it's rarely because of weight discrepancies.

So, basically, you now look like somebody who has started a thread to sneer at a 'plus-sized' woman pursuing her life goal on the basis that she is plus-sized but wears fish nets, all the while knowing nothing about the sport, and making yourself look like a bit of a d*ck in the process (although I must applaud you for trying the 'but won't anybody think about the CHILDREN!' line).

As others have said OP, these women are incredibly well trained and choreographed so that they don't hurt each other. In exactly the same way that a fight in a film will be planned second by second so both parties know what will happen and how to react, they do the same on stage. But it's even more clever because they can't use camera trickery as much, so the women have to use similar skills to magicians, sleight of hand and distracting the attention, as well as pre-planning. For something like you described, it is usually that the bigger woman will have caught her weight on the floor but made it look like she was landing on the smaller woman. The smaller woman reacts like it hurts, so you're busy worrying about her, so you don't notice the other woman never actually landed on her properly. It's all clever acting for entertainment.

The costumes don't bother me. She's wearing essentially a swimming costume, which boys would see women in at the beach. Plus some tights, which yes are a bit sexy, but don't reveal anything inappropriate.

Only on MN you'll find people appalled at violence in video games and cartoons but happily taking their children to go watch staged violence as being empowering to women

No haven't seen anyone actually.say it's empowering. Just that its.not offensive.

Wrestling isn't empowering to men or women.

Back in the day, (70's childhood, wrestling on TV every Saturday) Big Daddy & Giant Haystacks body slammed smaller opponents all time. I don't think those outfits are sexualised, they're sportswear/costume to fit character they portray. The ones who portray a character get more fans & followers from what I can gather.

Forgot: recent documentary on the return of wrestling to TV & it's increase in popularity stated that audience demographic at matches was 60% working class women and children being there was rare. When I was younger all my classmates watched it at home. It's choreographed theatre, just like US WWF.

I wear fishnets with a leotard to an exercise class. The fishnets give you a better grip on the studio floor than socks or shoes do.

I wouldn't say this was sexualised clothes just because you saw them in Ann Summers. Fishnets are widely available in places like primark to wear on a day to day basis.

So your actual issue with the wrestling is parents taking their pre adolescent sons to watch it!