Why are millenials geting a lot of flak

[MenaMecca]

Just that really. Surely every generation has its pros and cons?

Biologifemini, sometimes “spots” are cancer. My late uncle’s GP gave him ointment for an infected insect bite which was skin cancer which killed him. I don’t think it’s silly to get things like that checked out by anyone at any age, otherwise people die needlessly from cysts and coughs that are “nothing”.

@LuvSmallDogs think you've got the wrong thread

I think there's a vast difference between older and younger millennials so you can't really use the term millennial as a blanket term.

People born in the early to mid 80s had a very different time to those born in the mid to late 90s.

Divide and conquer, it's a simple distraction to stop us looking at the goings on by those with real power.

No, LISA, one of the problems with millenials is apparently going to the GP with spots that might be cancer. GPs aren’t A&E, figuring out who to refer to specialists and who to give ointments to is what they are actually for.

It might be the case that the differences between generations are used to divide us, but they don't originate from above.

Those with real power are not just in government either, anyone with property and wealth has more power than people who don't have those things.

The most annoying thing about the boomers is how, via Brexit, they seem happy to damage young people’s economic future over their nationalist identity policies, with a majority of boomer voters polled saying (a) damaging the economy is worth it for Brexit and (b) a significant proportion even saying that their own family members losing jobs is worth it for Brexit. Because fuck you, got mine.

Thanks for that guys.

@LuvSmallDogs sorry, must have missed your previous post which is weird as I read through!

I am a millennial but my dad is also a GP and I am a GP avoider (and will usually ask him). Most of my friends will go to the doctors for anything. It does my head in. It does my dad's head in even more. He said that older people (over 70) don't go to the doctors for serious things because they can't get an appointment and don't want to be a bother.

He said the worst people for going to doctors for unnecessary visits however are women in their 40s/50s. His words not mine!

I think maybe millennials get a lot of flak because they don't respect their elders in the way that previous generations did. But in previous generations the "elders" were people who fought in wars and lived through real hardship, whereas today's elders (as a group) haven't really done much which is worthy of respect IMO. Obviously individuals have.
Speak for yourself. I am 60 and grew up in a poverty stricken family (and there were an awful lot of them about) in the days before everyone seemed to think that the state should pay for everything. I've worked in two war zones with refugee agencies. And I know many others who have worked hard to make the world a better place or lived through hardship. However.... since when was there a requirement to prove yourself before you got any respect? Do we need special badges to show we are worthy of respect?

I think age has little to do with anything, but there are definitely too many entitled people around now who think that everything should be handed to them on a platter, and that they should make little or no effort to get it.

Hertha I think you're just perpetuating the problem! Boomers have a completely different lived experience, their views, their opinions are valid, they just don't value the same things as you do, have a different focus, a different timescale and a different set of beliefs.

It is fuck all to do with "Got mine" as many posters keep on saying, many Boomers got nothing!

I am a 'baby boomer', mother of a 'millennial' son.
We both left home at 18, we're both fiercely independent, we both lived (live) in rented properties in our 20s, we both like a drink, we both work and play hard, we both enjoy our friends, we're both law-abiding and trustworthy ...
I could go on - but we're not so different!

Social and political change is always going to affect people in different ways, so why should a 'generation' (neatly labelled by the media) be blamed?

they don't respect their elders in the way that previous generations did

My dad is in his 50s. Also grew up in severe poverty. Worked his way in to medical school and is now a doctor. It's an amazing story his is. I have so, so much respect for him and am already planning on where to put him when he can no longer look after himself.

This thread is annoying. People are people. We are all individuals. I have friends of all ages and I simply cannot put them all in to little groups like so many people are doing on this thread.

However.... since when was there a requirement to prove yourself before you got any respect? Do we need special badges to show we are worthy of respect?

Everybody is worthy of a minimum level of respect, regardless of their age.

But some older people seem to think that younger people should "respect their elders" simply because they are older and whether or not they have done anything special to merit extra respect. Based perhaps on the well-known fallacy that age is supposed to bring wisdom. (Spoiler: it doesn't necessarily.)

I don't buy this business of respecting one's elders, and I don't think most millennials do. But a lot of boomers feel they ought to be entitled to it.

I think you're just perpetuating the problem! Boomers have a completely different lived experience, their views, their opinions are valid, they just don't value the same things as you do, have a different focus, a different timescale and a different set of beliefs.
And unfortunately younger people will be carrying the financial burden for those beliefs. One of those beliefs being that economically damaging younger people is a price worth paying for Boomers’ beliefs.

Obviously #notallboomers.

'alot of boomers feel they ought to be entitled to it' (respect)

Everyone deserves respect, however old they are!!!! So yes, boomers are 'entitled' to it, in the same way as any other human being on the planet.
Even my dog deserves respect!

And what are the economically damaging beliefs of baby boomers, pray?

as a Gen X I remember getting no end of criticism from older generations when we were young for being, spoilt, entitled, lazy, that we spent too much time watching tv, listening to our inferior music on our Walkmans which was never as good as the 1960's (how many 80's/90's compilations and radio stations are there now?), we swore too much, drunk too much and were apparently the only generation to take dangerously drugs, we wanted everything now and had no idea about the "real world".

I'm afraid to say I now see people of my own generation and older generation levelling the same kind of crap at millenials and gen z only on passive aggressive Facebook posts. It's so bloody depressing!

I think there are a large amount of people who have taken the term millenial from the media and don't actually know the age group to which it refers.

Lisa, on GP use, I have seen my GP once in 12 years and am 56 so supposedly prime age to use the GP. I am in the 1% who pay the most income tax too. I feel I am due a massive tax refund for lack of claims on the NHS but I don't expect it will come any time soon.......

Perhaps when I go once every 12 years they should be giving me priority treatment with years of kind of priority credits saved up for wasting so little of their time.

I think age has little to do with anything, but there are definitely too many entitled people around now who think that everything should be handed to them on a platter, and that they should make little or no effort to get it. Are you referring to millennials or older people?

"I think maybe millennials get a lot of flak because they don't respect their elders in the way that previous generations did. But in previous generations the "elders" were people who fought in wars and lived through real hardship, whereas today's elders (as a group) haven't really done much which is worthy of respect IMO. Obviously individuals have."

Yes to this! My mother, who is in her 60s, worked in rest homes most of her life. She commented not so long ago about the elderly people she looked after who were so interesting, humble and lived through and fought through wars.

I asked her about this generation of elderly people (born either just before or during WW2) so in their 70s and 80s and she said they are moaners and bitter. They didn't have to fight a war like the previous generation and although had tough childhoods/early adulthood's , they've had it relatively easy in comparison to their parents and are the last generation who could realistically retire at 60.

Obviously there are exceptions to the rule here but there does seem to be a vast difference between the generations who were adults living through wars and the current generation of elderly people who had it much easier compared to their parents yet are the biggest moaners out there and far far less interesting to talk to.

People soon forget what it was like to be young and not know stuff.

@gutroweins she means respect beyond the ordinary respect fir others that common decency entails. Like the kind of respect where you are expected or to question/disagree with, give things (whether it is pensions or bus seats) and the like. Not general, I respect that you are a human being of equal worth type of respect.

*not question/disagree

Oh and socialism in answer to damaging economic beliefs. Mist grew up before neoliberalism really took off and the evils of the USSR were unveiled. Obviously my parents aren't like that (from the USSR) but western baby boomers often don't seem to understand that the NHS is shit and unworkable or that 90% attendance of state schools is massively concerning.