NDN’s Strange Behaviour

[Bronxer]

Apologies it’s another boring neighbour dispute thread but I’m really at this behaviour.

My NDNs have their bedroom on the same floor as me (loft conversion). Our stairs are quite squeaky so can hear when each other goes up and down the stairs. I got up at 6 to get ready for work which is a reasonable time to me. I collected things from my bedroom and sat on my bed for a while. They got up around 7am. I heard them go down the stairs, stop halfway and repeatedly knock on our adjoining wall. The walls are very thin so was easily distinguishable as them knocking and not anything else making a noise. They did it around 10 times and stopped. Now 10 minutes later I can still hear them hovering on the stairs and they have knocked again a few times. It’s definitely not a hammer or anything like that so they are purposefully doing it to be PA because I woke them up or something? Or they think I’ve gone back to sleep and they’re trying to wake me up. Not on good terms with them due to other weird and instrusive behaviours. Have made a few threads under a NC before. I’m the only person living here, no pets, no friends over or any music. My house is pretty empty most of the time so minimal normal noise levels.

AIBU to think this is really strange behaviour? 6am is the time most people will be up for work and not really something I can avoid. It’s very PA and just downright immature. Not something I expect from a couple 40 years my senior They’re early retired and rarely ever leave the house so I don’t see why they can’t just go back to bed if it bothers them. I will speak to them if they do it. Really at the end of my tether, don’t want to drip feed what else they’ve done. They wouldn’t be able to cope if I had a baby!

It was definitely on the wall where the stairs join so couldn’t have been a bed. Walking down stairs is not anti social noise before 7am. They creak but not the worst I’ve walked on. It’s completely necessary and like I said earlier if I needed the toilet am I just meant to wet myself because I might wake them up anyway will link recordings of their noise in a few hours, thank you for any advice! Sorry for sparadic responses it’s hetic at my work today

Next time they do it I'd shout back, "Morning Jean, Morning Robert!"

Insert relevant names, obvs.

They could be decorating?
I've recently decorated and the NDN asked me about it, so they must have been able to hear all the scraping and banging of the rollers.

I get up a 6 every morning, have a shower in the ensuite, get dressed and go to work. My husband and children manage to sleep through it all. Normal living sounds are perfectly ok and can not be helped.

Have you thought about fixing the squeaky stairs? Perhaps that should be your next port of all.

And yes, as a pp pointed out, some people can’t go back to sleep once they’ve been woken up.

You seem very angry about this considering it doesn’t affect you in the slightest but it’s waking them up everyday.

Sorry forgot to add it’s private rent and LL won’t do anything about the stairs or soundproofing! It’s the LL they should be mad at if anything if it’s the stairs that wake them up. I don’t make any other noise in the mornings as I have a shower in the evening and just have a quick wash the next day. Sorry for derailing, this is a thread about my neighbours and not my hygiene habits😂

You’ll understand why I’m so angry when I can post the recordings of their noise. It’s really horrendous and they don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to complaining about me waking them up. They’re prone to having shouty conversations outside my front door with the other neighbours for hours on end as well as their large dog barking constantly well past 1am when I’m trying to sleep for work! They don’t go to bed til after then. Maybe they should go to bed earlier if my waking them up is an issue. Didn’t want to drip feed all of this in my OP but it seems appropriate

Remember sometimes elderly people don't sleep well so waking them when they are sleeping can be distressing.

Squeaky stairs does not need expensive soundproofing or the landlord to sort it out; you can do it yourself cheaply and within a couple of hours with a quick google.

It's perfectly normal and acceptable to wake up at whatever time necessary to go to work.
It's even perfectly normal and acceptable to do so with the assistance of an alarm clock.
Or should people with attached neighbours not work in case it disturbs someone?

Ah OP - I once posted about my DPs nightmare of a fucking noisy neighbour (TV on LOUD until 3am, shouting and screaming and throwing things at his gf, cans of drink chucked over the fence...) and one poster suggested that NDN was being disturbed by DP getting up at 6am and going to work at 7.

NightmareNDN was an alcoholic waste of skin and had never worked a day in his empty pathetic life. He barely knew what day it was, let alone what time it was (hence the 3am TV) but of course it was somehow DPs fault.

sometimes elderly people don't sleep well

Elderly?? They’re only “early retired”!

Or should people with attached neighbours not work in case it disturbs someone?

Again, nobody is even remotely close to saying that. There’s no need to be so disingenuous.

However, there is something OP can do to alleviate this problem, and that’s fixing the squeaky stairs.

I think we've become intolerant & anti-social on a sliding scale with each other. We've lost the ability in many areas to rub along together. Everyday "life" noises are becoming harder to tolerate. In the main, community is dead.

PP^^ at 7:43 gave the best advice. Ask them if they're ok. Disarm them with kindness.

dont start me on neighbours. i will pop bck on my morning break to tellyou stories about mine.

Quit work and get a bucket to urinate in. Problem solved.

I’m not fixing the stairs because that costs money and they were that squeaky when I moved in so it’s LL’s issue. I shouldn’t have to accommodate to them if they don’t to me. I’ve uploaded this to YouTube I hope the links works okay. Excuse my partners washing from when he stayed over! It is like a kennel 24/7, from when they get up til when they go to bed well after 1am. I have many recordings this is just one of them, it stopped abruptly as I was talking to my partner. It had been going on for 5 minutes. They’ve been sent to the council but they won’t do anything so my next port of call is the RSPCA but I don’t really want to have to do that, poor dog must be so distressed all the time. It’s not a happy bark

An hour before you wanted to wake up really isn’t that bad

You keep saying this but I can assure it is a big deal to some people. My neighbours wake me at 5.30am every day going up and down their stairs and slamming every door in the house. I work but I don't have to be up until 7.30am so that's 2 hours sleep a night I'm losing, they also bang around until 11.30pm some nights so I'm getting 6 hours sleep a night instead of the 8 I need and this impacts upon my ability to concentrate at work and my health in general. My previous neighbours of 8 years got up at 6am and managed not to wake me so yes it is possible to get up early without waking your neighbours. Like a pp said you could fix the squeaky floorboards yourself. Disturbing your neighbours between the hours of 11pm and 7am is considered antisocial.

Great idea Littlechocola!😂 I might as well go shack up in the woods somewhere whilst I’m at it and get away from all these crazy neighbours

Posters that are disagreeing with me please watch the link and rethink how you feel about my neighbours behaviour!

WhatToDoAboutWailmerGoneRogue - have you found a new word? Disingenuous? You're using it in the wrong context and your input is ridiculous. Stop making useless suggestions that aren't helping the OP. If you have nothing constructive to say then say nothing.

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Your not trapped with a mortgage so I'd just move OP. They are not going to change, that dog barking would be enough for me.
We've had that with a whining dog and it was appalling.

Christ almighty that would drive me insane ☹️ That poor dog. I assume they’re out when it’s barking like that?

@Bronxer - def speak to them and act very concerned. Say you were just about to call the police as you were worried someone might have collapsed and be trying to attract help. Tell them you're genuinely worried ....do they have relatives nearby etc? Have they sought any help from social services .....offer to make a call on their behalf. Tell them not to worry, cos your nearby and keeping a close eye on them. Smother them OP.