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Ex paying more maintenance so no longer feeding/entertaining our child?!

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TheresAlwaysAnAskHole · 10/09/2018 21:54

You may remember my previous posts about issues with my ex and I've had a lot of stick so it may ring bells!!

Me and ex fell out recently, a minor argument that went too far. He didnt want to sort things out and wanted no communication so I contacted CMS to ensure financial support was not withdrawn following this sudden breakdown of friendship. As he is due his second child it's been a concern he may stop our private agreement and I couldn't speak to him about my concerns s as he cut communication. I believed £80 a month we had previously agreed was accurate from his wages.

Following our argument, he suddenly wanted to sort out differences but actually had discovered that CMS was now involved and he was to go from £80 p/m to £260 p/m. I never expected that. I didn't stop the claim as I felt he was manipulating me and low and behold he hates me again for going ahead as he will not be able to continue taking our son to kickboxing, keeps his Xbox games pass or go for pizzas/cinema etc with our son anymore!

Unbeknownst to me, they pulled out that larger figure because he has a company car. He wanted me to stop the CMS case as it was taking too much due to the company car but refused to share contact details again with me, my opinion was 'he no longer wants to be friends therefore his financial problems are none of my business' and he needs to take the issue up with CMS.

He didn't pay anything or have regular contact for 8 years so he got off lightly for a longtime, I didn't chase him because we got on and I didn't want to cause him stress. It's a major guilt for me because he is expecting a baby with his wife this month but I never expected I'd been 'under paid' so much for four years so I didn't intend for more money. I've had people on here call me jealous and vindictive but it's never been about those things and only 4 weeks ago I'd have laughed if anyone had told me how bad our relationship would be now! I applied for mediation to sort this, and agree a maintenance arrangement but he has refused to take part.

I stopped feeling so bad when I realised my household income is half of his and we support two adults, a teen and a toddler on it. Him and his wife had double our income for just themselves for many years and yet paid me only £80 maintenance whilst enjoying foreign holidays, taking out a mortgage and an expensive wedding - all fine but how much of the money spent was rightfully for me/DS?!

So, last week when he called DS to arrange picking him up he said 'you will have to have tea as I can't afford to buy any now your Mum's gone to CMS and we will just be going to sit at Nanas house'.

DS is 15 so it's not as easy as going to the park or soft play but he just enjoys his Dad's company he's even happy to just be with him, sit at his house or go food shopping for example.

AIBU in thinking he is just being spiteful? Previously they would have gone for food and done something like the arcades or driven back to his house but he claims he is getting a new car and "it won't be as easy to fiddle the mileage".

I offered to pay for him and DS to continue kickboxing and he said 'it doesn't work like that'.

He sees him once a week for 3 hours and the old fortnightly one night sleepover (Friday 5pm until Saturday 2pm) arrangement is replaced with a Saturday 10 - 5 twice a month until 'the baby is in a routine', so a total of 26 hours per month. I'd allow more but ex has never wanted it.

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Fuzzywig · 12/09/2018 19:50

You will have the last laugh.

I hope your son has a fab time and your ex feels crap x

Fuzzywig · 12/09/2018 19:51

Oooh meant to say it might be worth doing some dinner for when DS comes home

TwoBlueShoes · 12/09/2018 19:54

Look, you said yourself that he's a Disney dad. He most probably sneered at the packed lunch and threw it in the bin.

He sounds exactly like my Ex, selfish and manipulative, but likes to big-up what a great guy he is (even though he isn't).

Tell your son that the CMS is decided by the government based on his wages and that it's nothing to do with you, and leave it there.

You have to stop engaging with your Ex. It doesn't help anyone. Grey rock him. Don't tie yourself in knots trying to change him or guilt trip him or whatever.

RandomMess · 12/09/2018 20:00

Will be interesting for his wife when she discovers he is a waste of space as a Dad....

TwoBlueShoes · 12/09/2018 20:13

Also, I know it probably sounds like I'm talking shit, but Google dealing with a narcissist. There's a ton of information out there that can help you. I wish you and your son the best of luck x

TheresAlwaysAnAskHole · 12/09/2018 20:15

@RandomMess Im not 100% sure he will have the same issues. He was obviously a lot younger when we had DS and prioritised computer games over nappy changes, I think he has more self awareness now and she comes across as trying to have a perfect life so I think he may rise to it this time around.

The fact that she didn't see an issue with DS being compartmentalised into pre-arranged contact and didn't encourage contact outside of those hours (as though he didn't need to be a Dad if DS was naughty and we contacted him in a co-parenting approach) and also said "they need THEIR time", it may only be if they separated that she will see how ridiculous they have been - being a father isn't a shift work job!

I hope he is a good Dad to his new child but I hope he realises he has lacked with DS. I hope they realise how different being a parent every day is to being a part-timer and she rethinks some of her previous judging. I hope when she returns to work and has to leave that child in a nursery she realises how hard it is to hand over your child to someone else and worry while you are not with them.

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SimplyPut · 12/09/2018 20:18

What a piece of work!

TheresAlwaysAnAskHole · 12/09/2018 20:22

I never really thought of him as a narcissist but it's possible. He was very attentive as a boyfriend back when we were a couple and I definitely didn't treat him as well as I maybe should, I was moody and generally got my own way. It was me who left him though and I've never regretted it or wanted him back. I always wanted him to find what I have and I think he has but sadly that's now come at the cost of our friendship and worse - his relationship and commitment to his son.

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TheresAlwaysAnAskHole · 12/09/2018 20:29

Read about 'dealing with narcissist ex' and actually makes a lot of sense re: being a supply. Great tip.

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Graphista · 12/09/2018 21:46

Op my ex and initially the 2nd wife went along with this for a bit - tried to make out he was a better husband/father to their family than he was with us. I learned not too long into things that actually be really isn't. Friends and mainly family (older relatives with more life experience, seem family and friends go through similar) said to me at the time 'he won't have changed on that score, they don't' and I initially dismissed it as them trying to make me feel better. I now know 5 more kids later he still has left the probably 95% of the childcare and housework to her - even when he was out of work for a while the kids were still going to childcare cos he 'couldn't cope'!

"she comes across as trying to have a perfect life" more likely as trying to APPEAR as if they have a perfect life, so she'll cover for him. Even if he's shit!

You may find she's more supportive of your side of things once she has a child of her own, alternatively she could try to squeeze your ds out in favour of her child.

I was lucky to a degree in that dds stepmum is actually lovely to dd. But unfortunately ex being such a twat means dd hasn't seen that part of family for several years.

RandomMess · 12/09/2018 21:55

If he is a narcissist or has many narcissistic then he is never going to be a decent father to any child as it will always be about him and his needs.

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