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AIBU to of left this friend go ?

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Hastalavista67 · 08/09/2018 11:04

Hello !

I’ve taken the plunge to join this site. I don’t have any kids but I actively read things off this site. However, I’m in a bit of turmoil over what I’ve done but feel it was the best decision.

This friend, let’s call her K, we’ve known each other since very early teens, we grew up together, when to the same schools etc. Even when we went to university, we still remained close, she was there for me when my sister died and there for other events.

Recently, something bad happened to K, her dad suddenly died and she was really in distressed. She invited, just the two of us, we were basically in a group, with my other friend ‘g’, to attend her dad’s memorial. They weren’t able to hold a funeral service as, because of religious reasons, her dad had to be buried ASAP but the memorial service was kind of like, well in her case, a funeral service but also celebrating her dad’s life.

When invited, I initially, I admit, told her that I would come but later on told her that I got the dates mixed up because I originally promised a friend I would attend her baby shower, I was basically the organiser, so I had to attend that and the dates and times clashed, in the end I couldn’t attend her dad’s memorial. She understood but I could sense she was upset... though, I assume, because our other friend, G, was going, it wasn’t so bad.

On the day of her dad’s memorial, speaking to friends K and G, they had a bit of an argument. Friend K was busy running errands, managing calls, and organising the last minute set ups for the memorial, friend G kept on calling friend K.... friend K said she was highly stressed and friend G was being trivial. Anyway, friend G kept on calling friend K, was asking her “Where are you ? I hate being on my own” (friend G was outside the building of where the memorial service was being held). Friend K replied “ I am busy running errands, wait for me outside of the building if your nervous to go into the service alone”. From that point , friend K said that friend G kept on calling her and she was already stressed out because her phone was on low battery, many people were trying to contact her regarding how to get to the service, she had to prepare the food etc. Anyway, friend G kept on calling and friend K answered, friend G said “ friend K, you told me to wear bright colours for the funeral, everyone is wearing black, I look like a fool”. Friend K thought this was trivial and said that she too was wearing bright colours... friend G then went on to say “where are you, I hate being on my own, you should be here by now, I’m just going to go”. Friend K said she was really stressed and hanged up. But later, friend G said she will wait for her.

After that, speaking to Friend K, she came back to the memorial service but couldn’t see friend G and concluded that she weren’t there and left, friend K said she didn’t even send a text to say she’ll be leaving.

Then all of a sudden, friend K sends angry messages to both of us, I’m assuming after the memorial service was finished. She said “you both are useless friends, you should of been there but you weren’t, I only invited the two of you to my dad’s memorial as we are all very close, but none of you were there, I’m diswppointed, friend G’s reason for not actually entering the memorial service was just an excuse....” and she said some other things. Friend K then blocked both me and friend G from calling her.

We kept calling her to see how she was, but as she blocked us we couldn’t get through. This was a week ago, two days ago, she texted me, and I asked her why did she block us and said those hurtful things like useless. She said the reason why she blocked us was because she knew we would call her and she didn’t want to say anymore hurtful things, so she decided to do that in order to calm down and she’ll talk to us properly when she was ready. She then apologised for saying those things but she was very disappointed that neither of us were there, she was on her own. I asked her, I don’t know why your angry with me because I told you I couldn’t make it but your not angry with your other close friend (she has another close friend T that couldn’t make it too). She said that was different because as soon as she invited friend T, she said she couldn’t make it due to childcare and lives two hours away, so she understood, but friend T was contacting her in the day of the memorial, asking her if she’s ok, wishing her the best that everything went well. I on the other hand, told her that I couldn’t come last minute, that if she didn’t remind me that her dad’s memorial was on such and such date , I wouldn’t of told her.

At the end of the discussion, I told her that I understood how she felt because I was very stressed on the day of my sisters funeral and friend G and I have decided not to be close with you anymore... well not be friends with you basically. I can’t take someone calling me a useless friend and I’m not going to take that, sorry. Friend K said she understands, that she apologises for what she said, it’s up to me and friend G at the end of the day, it’s sad but she has to move on and get on with life. I could sense she was upset and getting tearful, so K expressed my wishes that I didn’t want to ruin her night and ended the call.

AIBU to cut our friend K out of my life ? I can’t take someone calling me “useless”, I think it’s very abusive, with all the other things she said. It’s best for us not to be friends and move on from her.

OP posts:
CoughLaughFart · 08/09/2018 13:38

Oh yes - it is Biscuit
I’m sorry for your loss OP but I don’t comment on reverse threads.

I’m not a fan of reverses either, but is this really the right thread to take the moral high ground on it?

CornforthWhite · 08/09/2018 13:41

I lost friends when my Dad died too. They were horrible at my lowest possible moment.
It's not easy and I really, really feel for you. 4 years on I'm healed from the loss of those 'friendships'. It's been a long road but I feel nothing for them now and have great people in my life. Please take the time to realise what hideous people they are. Move on as best you can. Talk to a counsellor to try and unpick both sets of grief.

Labradoodliedoodoo · 08/09/2018 13:50

I’m with K. The baby shower wasn’t an essential event, supporting her friend in her time of need was. She clearly fell to pieces on the day and that is normal. It’s strange that you and G have decided not to be her friend, you both sound self absorbed though

KurriKurri · 08/09/2018 13:51

Just seen this is a reverse, so glad to be able to answer you as 'you'.

I think it is always the case that you find out who your true friends are in times of trouble. These are not true friends and in the long run you will be better off without them although obviously you are still upset and hurting, you will be relieved one day that they have shown their true colours and you are rid of them.

They were useless, you were right to call them on it. And frankly if anyone got cross with me on the day of their father's memorial I would forgive them straight away - sounds like an awfully stressful and emotional day for you that they made worse.

No decent person would prioritise a bay shower over a memorial service.

No decent person would faff about what they were wearing to a grieving daughter. (I turned up at a funeral in black because I hadn;t got the message that the deceased's family had requested the colours of her favourite football team. Didn't bat an eyelid - didn;t even occur to me it was a problem, i hadn;t got the message, simple mistake - the main thing was I went to celebrate my friends life and support her close family as best I could)

Also 'going in alone' is a total non problem - I've gone in to lots of funerals alone, you just go in , many of the guests will have been on their own. You nod hellos to people and sit down quietly.

I'm so sorry for your loss and for the way you have been treated by these so called friends. I hope you can put their antics out of your mind and concentrate on your healing and your grief.

You are very young to lose a parent, and my heart goes out to you. if you want some online support, the people on the bereavement section of this forum are very kind and you will be able to talk about your dear Dad and your feelings of loss and get great empathy and understanding. Flowers

AnoukSpirit · 08/09/2018 13:55

Losing these non-friends makes space for you to have genuine friends in your life who will treat you the way friends should.

Although I understand feeling an additional loss on top of that of your dad must make it feel unbearable, in the long run you will get through this. Flowers

I don't think you should have apologised for calling them useless. They were! And a whole host of other things besides. You are the one owed apologies.

Bellyscreen · 08/09/2018 14:00

Sorry for your loss - but, please tell me, why on earth did you do this as a reverse? You would have got exactly the same sympathetic reaction, so why?

ADastardlyThing · 08/09/2018 14:24

Fuck me you and G are awful friends, I wish K all the best.

She was right btw, absolutely useless.

ADastardlyThing · 08/09/2018 14:26

Ah it's a reverse, sorry i couidnt get past the op I was so angry!

Notonthestairs · 08/09/2018 14:38

I remember the weeks after my mum died - one of the worst points in my life. I don't think the reverse in this instance matters one jot.

What you need now is lots of self care, be very kind to yourself, spend time with people who value you (T for a start). I'd also recommend Cruse.

Don't try to understand your friends behaviour - you'll never get to the bottom of it. Maybe they feel guilty and don't like being called out on it. Maybe they've never lost a loved one. Whatever. I know you were friends for years but they haven't stepped up when needed - and that matters.

Very sorry for your loss Thanks

PawneeParksDept · 08/09/2018 14:57

G is a massive cunt as is the person you pretended to be initially

It often takes a crisis to show us our friends true colours.

You are well rid OP, please don't distress yourself further. Who treats a bereaved friend like that?

Disgusting

Have some Ginand Thanks

CircleofWillis · 08/09/2018 15:19

I suspect the OP did a reverse as he knew everyone would be sympathetic to her in the circumstances. I imagine she wanted to see if she could understand what has happened from her friends’ point of view.

YeTalkShiteHen · 08/09/2018 15:22

At the end of the discussion, I told her that I understood how she felt because I was very stressed on the day of my sisters funeral and friend G and I have decided not to be close with you anymore... well not be friends with you basically

Seeing as this is now revealed as a reverse I’ll reply to you as you OP. You’ve had a lucky escape from those two, what a poisonous pair of shits.

I’m so sorry about your Dad Flowers

Hastalavista67 · 08/09/2018 15:38

Thank you everyone for your comments. But my friends have been there for me in the past. Does this matter ?

OP posts:
YeTalkShiteHen · 08/09/2018 15:47

I think that anyone who can be so selfish and shitty on the day of your dad’s memorial service isn’t a friend.

I’m probably projecting because I was medicated out of my box to be able to get through my Mum’s funeral, and one friend made the day all about her which just made life harder than it had to be.

But I think they’ve well and truly shown their true colours and you’re well shot of them OP.

itswinetime · 08/09/2018 15:50

Thank you everyone for your comments. But my friends have been there for me in the past. Does this matter ?

Not if they can't be there for you now or even give a little understanding about what you are going through no!

Have a think back who arranges meetings? Who checks in first? Who gives more support? Because from your op there is no way this was an even friendship people don't flip like that. Supportive good friends don't become arseholes there true colours just show! From what you have said you will have been making little allowances for the bad behaviour for a while now.

tinyme77 · 08/09/2018 15:54

Give it time. You don't have to decide straight away

starryeyed19 · 08/09/2018 15:58

You and your friend fucked it big time IMO. Her father died. There's only going to be one memorial service. Could you not have handed the baby shower reins to someone else? Regardless, you could have had a tea party or something after the baby was born.

As for the other friend, what in the name of Christ was she thinking?!

If you don't want to be friends any more, than fair enough. But I think she has right on her side here.

starryeyed19 · 08/09/2018 16:01

Ah, OK. Read more of the thread. OP, they were utter shits. You're better off without them

Pringlecat · 08/09/2018 16:05

Losing your father was a big deal. Particularly as you're young enough for that to not be normal. I am so sorry for your loss, and I have nothing else kind or helpful to say, because you've shown incredible strength in keeping going and I honestly have no idea how you've managed to do that. You're a better woman than I am.

Your 'best friends' have proven that they're not good friends. And that's a kind of bereavement in itself - you no longer have those two people at the end of the phone who you think you can count on for anything. Even if they remain in your life, you're never going to trust them for the big things again - they've proven they're not capable of supporting you.

All these things happening at the same time is just awful - and you're completely justified in feeling so upset.

All I can say about your 'friends' is that there are better, nicer people out there and you will connect with them sooner or later, and when you find your real 'people', your life will start to feel richer for it. This is survivable. Some of my best mates now are people I would never anticipated even knowing on a superficial level let alone to such trust - chance connections can develop into meaningful friendships. Humans gravitate to humans, and you will fill this friendship void.

Be kind to yourself. It's not the same thing by any means, losing your father was truly awful - but do allow yourself to also grieve for the lose of these two friendships. You are allowed to feel upset about all of the losses, not just the one you feel people are expecting you to feel upset about.

ambereeree · 08/09/2018 16:11

Crikey good riddance to those two. Imagine calling someone on the day of their fathers funeral asking where they are because you don't want to be alone. Be kind to yourself OP.

Doyoumind · 08/09/2018 16:15

OP in response to your latest question, I would say no, it doesn't matter. They have let you down when you needed them most. The only way back would be if they realise their mistake and apologise. They won't.

Don't let them back in unless you are prepared to let them think their behaviour was ok and yours wasn't and have them do the same again next time you need them.

It's sad but they have shown their true colours. They don't seem mature enough to deal with your situation. 10 years down the line they will probably be better people.

Hastalavista67 · 08/09/2018 16:18

Thank you so much everyone Sad. I’ve decided to not entertain the thought of rekindling a friendship with them. It’s hurt a-lot, but they weren’t there for me when I needed them the most and that’s not something I can forget.

I just have to keep moving forward and remain strong.

OP posts:
batshitbetty · 08/09/2018 16:29

Please tell me that this is a reverse, because you sound like an awful friend. Both you a G do. The poor girl has just lost her father and neither of you supported her, your friend G is just ridiculous and should have more sense than to be needy and hound someone on the day of their dads memorial.

If you are going to cut someone who is supposedly a friend out just because she got upset while she was grieving and held the mirror up about how rubbish you'd both been, I think you are doing her a favour because she can do much better than the two of you!

batshitbetty · 08/09/2018 16:37

Sorry for your loss Thanks

If your friends are truest that self centred you really do deserve better - particularly cruel to do this while you are still grieving

ThirdChildFourthPile · 08/09/2018 16:51

They are shit friends, you're well rid. Re-block and don't unblock.
Sorry for your loss.