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FABRIC CONDITIONERS

80 replies

dave2212 · 07/09/2018 07:16

I worked in the textile industry in the late 60's, in the dying department where I worked we used a water softener, but actually it was a water soluble lubricant applied to the cloth before it was made into garments, this was to prevent the high speed sewing machines from overheating and keeping the needles cool by reducing the friction just like a car needs oil for the same purpose, so this is how Fabric Conditioners come about, this substance attracts dirt like most lubricants. Reading a label on a bottle of Lenor recently, they say it is harmful to Aquatic life, also not to be used on children's sleepwear (in that case why use it on their daywear?) added to that it makes clothes more flammable, plenty of reasons there not to use it at all.
I use a Supermarket own brand Non Bio washing liquid and no FC this leaves my clothes smelling good, OK they are not so soft but less greasy and less likely to attract dirt, Please Mums don't waste money on Fabric Conditioners.

OP posts:
Hazandduck · 07/09/2018 08:26

Heads up everyone, only mums do laundry! 🙄

PlatypusPie · 07/09/2018 08:38

I must be the only person here who has thought that this may have been a slightly ill judged post ( vis the pile on) but that’s an interesting thing I didnt know before about the origins of the product.

Also: the only thing I have been using it on is towels, to keep them soft. Have I been doing this all wrong, then ?

Neshoma · 07/09/2018 08:51

I don't use it often, but I find a lot of my teen DDs clothes or synthetic and need a dose of FC to make them less static.

Everything we do has an effect: driving a car, going on holiday, throwing away rubbish, Costa/Starbucks/Amazon............

Giantsquid · 07/09/2018 08:53

Better take the lit cigarette out of my toddlers mouth as she falls asleep then..

Drummingisfun · 07/09/2018 08:55

Interestingly my uncle works in textile dyeing.
He is involved in the formulation of dyes and the chemicals involved in the dyeing process. He uses fabric conditioner.

Eatmycheese · 07/09/2018 08:58

Since this thread was started I’ve re been inspired. I decided to wash all our hazardous dirt attracting combustible clothes down at the foot of a stream with a mangle and bar of soap. Only the breeze caresses them with its own special fragrance (except the towels that is)
The man of the house is banned from these proceedings as he was exempt from the public service announcement and therefore it is obviously women’s work

SneakyGremlins · 07/09/2018 08:59

I'm a man, am I allowed to use fabric softener? Or in fact do laundry, as I'm not a mother?

Honflyr · 07/09/2018 09:01

I love fabric conditioner. Can't do without it. I don't have a washing machine or a tumble dryer so I do handwashes (with gloves) and use fabric conditioner after washing so it is softer when it finishes drying on the clothes-horse. I've always used it on everything, even newborn baby sleepwear (Fairy/Comfort) and it's never been a problem.

Sometimes if a top isn't dirty but just needs refreshing I will just give it a quick handwash with FC and hot water and it smells lovely again.

Confusedbeetle · 07/09/2018 09:03

Replies are a bit aggressive and unnecessary to comment on gender

CrochetBelle · 07/09/2018 09:18

Did anyone comment on gender?

Anyway, Dave was the one who made this about women.

Snugglepiggy · 07/09/2018 09:22

Thanks Dave for the information.I didn't take offence and found it useful.When looking at ways to economise and cut back on waste I gave up fabric softener and honestly dont miss it.Another example of huge marketing hype and commercialism IMO.But some obviously like it and thats their choice.Mansplaining -I take it that's feeling patronised as we used to call it .As for referring to Mums -well I do think some replies are harsh .Dave worked in textiles in the late 60s so in all innocence as this is on Mumsnet just typed mums without thinking he was in the wrong.Off on a tangent currently swapped to boxes of washing powder.Its almost impossible to buy a bottle of liquid without a wash ball on top.You only need one so what a waste of resources and thousands if not millions of stupid plastic balls being manufactured and then ending up in landfill.Another example of unnecessary plastic that could so easily be stopped.

Gardai · 07/09/2018 09:37

Gee thanks Dave, your a star
I’ll sleep tonight in my non conditioned bed

SoupDragon · 07/09/2018 09:40

unnecessary to comment on gender

You’re absolutely right - Dave shouldn’t have made the assumption that only mothers buy fabric conditioner.

ConcreteUnderpants · 07/09/2018 11:18

Platypus it makes towels less absorbant, apparently.
I still use it on mine as it makes them softer, fluffier and smell nice.

ToadOfSadness · 07/09/2018 11:42

I am not a fan of fabric conditioner, it makes clothes with stretch feel clammy. It is not easy to wash out. It did nothing to soften any of our laundry, just sits there in the extra hard water and all it does it make the washing stink like a cheap perfume factory. Something changed around 2010 in the industry and everything seemed to be reformulated, FC has not been nice since.

I am also not a fan of the irritants that are added to laundry products, including the Febreze type stuff. The addition of 'natural' perfumes which can cause breathing issues and skin rashes. If you are lucky enough not to have to worry this obviously won't be an issue.

I think the OP has a valid point actually, am not concerned about the wording of the post because people take against others on here for whatever reason they fancy.

ToadOfSadness · 07/09/2018 11:47

Neshoma, if it helps, using body lotion can reduce static. I expect this is also bad for the environment in some way but struggle to find anything that isn't.

Deadringer · 07/09/2018 11:50

I never use it, horrible, synthetic, stinky stuff.

Eliza9917 · 07/09/2018 11:54

@Schroedingerscatagain

Which soap nuts are good to buy?

How do you use them, do they have to go in a bag?

Do they leave your clothes with no smell?

pigsDOfly · 07/09/2018 12:01

I imagine if Dave worked in the textile industry in the late 60s he's getting on a bit now so perhaps he forgot that it's not only mums that buy and use laundry products these days.

I don't use FC, I used it years ago and worked out for myself that it's horrible stuff by the effect it had on my washing and my machine.

We live in a society of heavily perfumed air fresheners now - I walk past houses where I live and the whole area will stink of air freshener, I think the smell comes out through the window vents - and I think a lot of people want that on their clothes.

Personally I hate the overwhelming stench of cheap perfume on clothes - my DD uses it and I can smell it on me when I've been to her house - but each to their own.

Bit of advice dave2212 don't start threads like this. It won't make you popular.

AhoyDelBoy · 07/09/2018 12:06

@Eliza9917
If the PP is talking about natural soap nuts (I’m not in the UK so you may have a man made soap nut?) they’re literally a nut so no different types etc. I wanted to love them but found them hopeless tbh. You put them in a small calico bag or similar and they don’t leave any smell on your clothes although the nuts themselves have a very weird smell and are quite sticky. I saw the load washing when they were in (front loader) and could see lots of soap bubbles so quite amazing really. Probably alright if you have very lightly soiled clothes but no more (I have s baby so have poo explosions and mucky bibs to contend with).

Eliza9917 · 07/09/2018 12:09

@AhoyDelBoy Ok thank you, I might get a small bag from ebay and try them.

AhoyDelBoy · 07/09/2018 12:10

A baby obviously. I’ve just bought fabric conditioner today off the back of this thread.. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/AMA/3308661-I-developed-laundry-detergents-AMA

AhoyDelBoy · 07/09/2018 12:12

Yeh very cheap so don’t buy into the eco friendly ‘marketed’ ones.. I got mine in a bulk food shop. You put about 3 or 4 in the bag and put it in and that’s it Smile

2rebecca · 07/09/2018 12:28

I don't use it and as a GP tell many patients with eczema not to use it and use non bio detergent most of the time unless things are really grubby. Rinse clothes thoroughly with water. Haven't tried the nut things but we're keen cyclists so maybe not suitable for sweaty clothes.

BlueTyger · 07/09/2018 12:31

Thanks for the tip, Dave.

I didn't know it was harmful to aquatic life Sad.

I haven't used one in a while though.

And thanks for the reminder to use non-biological, another poster above.