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Freedom of the press is not just important to democracy; it is democracy. Trump no. 94.

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TheClaws · 05/09/2018 00:41

Quote from Walter Cronkite.

Previous thread here:

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ohmymimi · 12/09/2018 18:05

'IS DEMOCRACY DYING?'
America Is Living James Madison’s Nightmare
The Founders designed a government that would resist mob rule. They didn’t anticipate how strong the mob could become.
www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/568351/

lionheart · 12/09/2018 18:07

Stranger things have happened (or been elected), ohmy. Grin

ohmymimi · 12/09/2018 18:10

Maybe he thinks 'Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure' is a documentary, cozieWink

ohmymimi · 12/09/2018 18:24

<a class="break-all" href="http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/406234-donald-trump-may-stun-america-with-shocking-november-surprise?amp#click=t.co/OoGMDYQmK3" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">thehill.com/opinion/white-house/406234-donald-trump-may-stun-america-with-shocking-november-surprise?amp#click=t.co/OoGMDYQmK3

ohmymimi · 12/09/2018 18:26

<a class="break-all" href="http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/406179-trump-slump-fuels-gop-fears?amp#click=t.co/cefc5237ZW" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">thehill.com/homenews/administration/406179-trump-slump-fuels-gop-fears?amp#click=t.co/cefc5237ZW

PerkingFaintly · 12/09/2018 18:42

That last opinion piece in The Hill about 45 potentially refusing to accept the election result...

That's when all the orange one had at stake was ego.

What's really terrifying is the Mugabe situation.

Mugabe couldn't afford to lose an election, because he feared he would be prosecuted when he was no longer president. He actually had nothing to lose in rigging elections, because the crimes for which he might be indicted if he lost were so much worse.

cozietoesie · 12/09/2018 19:09

Indeed.

cozietoesie · 12/09/2018 19:11

'all'??

lionheart · 12/09/2018 20:26

abcnews.go.com/Politics/manafort-seeking-plea-deal-special-counsel-avoid-cooperation/story?id=57777687

'Sources tell ABC News that Mueller’s office is seeking cooperation from Manafort for information related to President Donald Trump and the 2016 campaign. Manafort, however, is resisting and his team is pushing prosecutors for a plea agreement that does not include cooperation, at least as related to the president, sources said.'

cozietoesie · 12/09/2018 21:25

He won't necessarily know what info MrM's team are sitting on, though?

lionheart · 12/09/2018 22:05

Alec Luhn (Telegraph)
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Verified account

@ASLuhn

'.@pussyrrriot member Pyotr Verzilov, who rushed the field during the World Cup final to protest police brutality, has been hospitalised in critical condition in the toxicology department of a Moscow hospital. His relatives reportedly suspect poisoning.'

ohmymimi · 12/09/2018 22:37

Natasha Bertrand
@NatashaBertrand
"The harshest sanctions outlined in the order would be up to the president’s discretion...the order appears to be an effort to stave off bipartisan legislation that would mandate tough federal action."
Trump issues new order authorizing additional sanctions for interfering in upcoming U.S. elections
washingtonpost.com
mobile.twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1039933465737785344

ohmymimi · 12/09/2018 22:38

Ken Dilanian
@KenDilanianNBC
The former NSA chief said he gave Trump detailed briefings on Russian hacking efforts, though Trump would tell him, “Mike, you know I’m in a different place.” Rogers added that he would reply, “Sir, this isn’t about politics, it isn’t about party...”

www.thedailybeast.com/ex-nsa-boss-mike-rogers-i-wish-trump-had-pressed-putin-on-election-meddling-in-helsinki

TheNorthWestPawsage · 12/09/2018 23:15

Poll: More voters trust media to tell the truth than Trump

More American voters trust the media to tell the truth about important issues than President Trump, according to a new Quinnipiac poll released Wednesday.

About 54 percent of voters trust the media compared with 30 percent who trust the president, a new low for him in the poll.

Additionally, 69 percent of voters say the media is an important part of a democracy, while 21 percent say it is the enemy of the people, a common phrase the president uses to describe the media.
thehill.com/homenews/administration/406221-poll-more-voters-trust-media-than-trump

cozietoesie · 13/09/2018 00:03

I wonder how those results tie in with actual voting? (They seem, in any case, to be sharply divided along party lines.)

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TheClaws · 13/09/2018 01:50

This is a bizarre tale from Woodward’s book about Australia’s Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and Trump. When at the G20 in Hamburg, he invited Turnbull into the SCIF - a “Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility”. These facilities handle sensitive and classified information and only security-cleared people can enter. Since he had done this, the SCIF had to be completely dismantled.

www.news.com.au/world/north-america/donald-trumps-bizarre-security-blunder-with-malcolm-turnbull/news-story/0ea9b66f7bdda3d5a0edb07669fad51f

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lionheart · 13/09/2018 06:27

edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2018/09/12/lead-ben-sasse-live-jake-tapper.cnn

'Republican Senator Ben Sasse discusses an ethics reform package he plans to introduce Thursday.'

lionheart · 13/09/2018 06:33

www.politicususa.com/2018/09/12/maddow-coast-guard-trump-hurricane.html

'Maddow Drops Another Bomb: Trump Took $29M From The Coast Guard Ahead Of Hurricane Season.'

lionheart · 13/09/2018 07:46

money.cnn.com/2018/09/12/media/barnes-noble-woodward-fear/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twCNN&utm_content=2018-09-13T00:56:42

'"Fear" came out on Tuesday. And it is already one of the top selling books of the year -- not just on the politics shelf of the bookstore, but in the entire store.

On Wednesday, Barnes & Noble said "Fear" has had the "fastest sales for an adult title since Harper Lee's 'Go Set a Watchman' was released in July 2015."'