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Freedom of the press is not just important to democracy; it is democracy. Trump no. 94.

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TheClaws · 05/09/2018 00:41

Quote from Walter Cronkite.

Previous thread here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3345873-Trump-has-a-Pecker-problem-and-there-is-a-blue-pill-to-make-it-grow-bigger-midterms-Trump-threads-contd

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PerkingFaintly · 07/09/2018 21:08

Fixed link: www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/targeting-woodward-trump-crafts-odd-new-conspiracy-theory

And I see you'd already posted the Slate article about Kavanaugh and the stolen memos, lionheart. You're quicker off the block! Grin

PerkingFaintly · 07/09/2018 21:09

And again! Grin

I'll just drink Brew and enjoy the show...

lionheart · 07/09/2018 21:25

George P. will be sentenced shortly.

lionheart · 07/09/2018 21:30

:forward.com/scribe/402478/i-was-a-trump-troll/

lionheart · 07/09/2018 21:39

www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/i-knew-brett-kavanaugh-during-his-years-republican-operative-don-ncna907391

'I used to know Brett Kavanaugh pretty well. And, when I think of Brett now, in the midst of his hearings for a lifetime appointment to the U.S. Supreme Court, all I can think of is the old "Aesop's Fables" adage: "A man is known by the company he keeps."

And that's why I want to tell any senator who cares about our democracy: Vote no.'

lionheart · 07/09/2018 21:43

George has a 14 day trip to jail.

lionheart · 07/09/2018 21:44
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Eponymous · 07/09/2018 22:08

Trevor Noah on the op-ed

m.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trevor-noah-nyt-op-ed-donald-trump_us_5b90ed16e4b0162f472a204a

“There’s a secret group of people within the White House actively working to curb President Trump, which is wild, because this means this whole time we’ve been dealing with the watered-down version of Trump,” Noah quipped.

“You’re telling me that this is the better version?” he added. “Like I thought this was the peak of crazy, this is Diet Trump? This is what you’re saying?”

cozietoesie · 07/09/2018 22:27

Mr Noah.

Roussette · 07/09/2018 22:32

Thanks all for the links. Trying to keep up but am away at the moment Smile

cozietoesie · 07/09/2018 22:48

Sorry, Eponymous. I only repeated your link because that one wouldn't play for me. Blush

Eponymous · 07/09/2018 23:12

No worries cosie. Was it the mobile huffpo link that didn't work for you or their embedded video? I'll lay off the mobile links if they don't work for other people.

cozietoesie · 07/09/2018 23:21

If I recall - their embedded video. 'Not made available to your country etc etc.' Smile

TheClaws · 08/09/2018 00:43

Trump wasn’t a fan of Obama’s speech - the bits he understood, anyway.

CNN Politics @CNNPolitics
5h5 hours ago
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President Trump on former President Obama’s speech: “I watched it, but I fell asleep. I’ve found he’s very good for sleeping”

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TheClaws · 08/09/2018 00:46

45 doesn’t get yet that he’s been sold out by Papadopoulos. Grin

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
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14 days for $28 MILLION - $2 MILLION a day, No Collusion. A great day for America!

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lionheart · 08/09/2018 01:15

Donald J. Trump

Verified account

@realDonaldTrump

'14 days for $28 MILLION - $2 MILLION a day, No Collusion. A great day for America!'

lionheart · 08/09/2018 01:29

He really doesn't.

TheClaws · 08/09/2018 07:37

Meanwhile in North Korea: statement on Rondong Sinmun on the breakdown of talks. NK version - not our fault.

Dialogue and Pressure Can Never Go Together

An official concerned of the spokesmen’s office of the U.S. Department of State recently said that the U.S. set it as a goal to replace the armistice agreement when the DPRK is denuclearized. The official added that sanctions will be comprehensively maintained unless the DPRK is denuclearized, reaffirming the stand to stick to the principle of “denuclearization first and conclusion of a peace treaty next.”

State Secretary Pompeo also told the Senate that international sanctions will be maintained until the DPRK is denuclearized.
In the meantime, voices are ringing out among U.S. media and experts on Korean affairs that the U.S. administtaion should change its approach to the DPRK.

An American professor in politics claimed that precedence should be given to confidence and peace building if the Korean peninsula is to be denuclearized but the Trump administration has snubbed this. The U.S. strategy is in total confusion, he added.

The implementation of the Singapore DPRK-U.S. joint statement that has inspired humandkind with hope and expectation for world peace is now at a deadlock.

Why? This is because the U.S. side is unilaterally insisting on the gangster-like principle of “denuclearization first.”

Sanctions and pressure can never go together with dialogue.
Pressure will only heighten the other party’s vigilance and do more harm than good to dialogue. The same is the relations of the DPRK and the U.S. which have antagonized with each other most on the earth for a long time.

The two parties declared before the world their will to hold hands with each other and put an end to the hostile relations through the Singapore DPRK-U.S. summit meeting and talks and joint statement.
The DPRK has shown goodwill and magnanimity by dismantling its nuclear test ground in northern area and sending the remains of GIs.
However, the U.S. paid only lip-service to the improvement of the relations but did nothing. On the contrary, it is going against its promise.

The present U.S. administration should draw a lesson from the preceding administrations which drained the cup of sorrow only while resorting to sanctions and pressure for over half a century.

The U.S. side should neither insist on “denuclearization first and conclusion of a peace treaty next” nor delay the settlement of the issue of adopting a war-end declaration its president promised during the Singapore DPRK-U.S. summit.

It is the invariable will of the DPRK to resolve the matter through dialogue and negotiations.

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 08/09/2018 07:37

"A nice young man" as my mother used to say.

"I was not trying to protest." This high school student was nicknamed #PlaidShirtGuy after he was asked to leave a Trump rally after making animated facial expressions during the President's speech. He speaks to CNN's @DonLemon. cnn.it/2NmTiVF
twitter.com/cnntonight/status/1038273991645921282?s=21

TheNorthWestPawsage · 08/09/2018 07:40

BREAKING: @TheDemCoalition just filed a criminal complaint against Brett Kavanaugh for perjury in his Congressional testimony. See the complaint below.
www.documentcloud.org/documents/4840582-BRETT-KAVANAUGH-CRIMINAL-COMPLAINT-to-DEPARTMENT.html

ohmymimi · 08/09/2018 08:39

'Michael Cohen seeks to tear up Stormy Daniels deal, wants money back'
amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/07/politics/michael-cohen-stormy-daniels-deal/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

ohmymimi · 08/09/2018 08:40

Tony Romm
@TonyRomm
SCOOP: We asked all 50 states' attorneys general if they'd attend the DOJ's gathering on tech, online filtering and free speech. We found out many top Dem AGs including those in tech hubs like Calif. so far haven't been invited. People are pissed.
mobile.twitter.com/TonyRomm/status/1038214850416177157

ohmymimi · 08/09/2018 08:44

'Papadopoulos breaks silence, 'can't guarantee' he didn't tell Trump campaign about Russian dirt'
amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/07/politics/george-papadopoulos-interview-documentary/index.html?__twitter_impression=true