To wonder how much MLM reps *really* make?

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Firstly I absolutely 100% DO NOT want to be a rep for any MLM. Even if they made a squillion pounds a year I don't think it would be worth it for having to create a Facebook group and post cringey quotes all day.

Anyway, I do use some Tropic stuff and I'm also part of a Body Shop group as now and again the rep does good discounts on stuff I'd buy from the store anyway. The latter often posts redacted wage slips from her 'boss' with £3,000 a month - HOW?! From what I see most people buy a shampoo now and again for about £4 a bottle! I certainly never spend more than about £6 with her. She's trying to tout £5 make-up bags today and has been challenged to sell 5 apparently.

The Tropic stuff is a bit dearer and the 'ambassador' (🤪) talks about holidays to South Africa and getting fancy cars (again with mentions of the elusive boss) but again most people spend the odd £25 and if they only make 25% then they can't be getting more than a couple of hundred quid a month. Even if they sold 5 times that much, it's £1,000 a month, and her boss allegedly does that as a full time job!

How much do they actually earn?

I know someone earning about 60k a year through an MLM. She works very hard at it.

She sells through her Facebook, runs parties very night, has pop up stalls at business, festivals, community events etc etc.

She also seems to be very successful at recruiting other sellers and now has a huge team working for her.

She’s not been doing it for that long but is one of the top U.K. sellers for her brand.

To her credit she seems to manage all this without pestering her friends and without pressuring anyone (for example I’ve never bought anything from her nor hosted party for her) She is naturally very charismatic though.

I suspect she is the exception that proves the rule though. It’s not a form of employment I’d personally want to follow or would recommend to anyone.

I read an excellent blog on here, on a post yesterday about a Younique rep. She virtually made nothing, made a loss for the majority of the time, pissed all her family and friends off in the process.

Remember Amway? Here is the decision of the Secretary of State when the UK branch closed down. If you look at paras 28 and 43 it documents the claims made from those leading in the business, and then the actuality of what they really earned. Also how it worked out for the majority of their "Independent Business Owners". This MLM model is still alive and well in the other companies preying on people who want to improve their lives. www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/5a8ff7d960d03e7f57eb2782

What I absolutely can’t stand is the fakery of these so called cheerleaders for women. Some of the MLM bots I know were the most supportive, open-minded people I know but since being indoctrinated they constantly post videos about so-called flaws that need to be fixed by spending squillions on some primer, looking like a clone or drawing on some slug brows, and god forbid you work an honest to goodness 9-5 or longer - you’re doing something tantamount to child neglect - no sign of live and let live, they’ll fill their social media with self-justify posts doing down other hard-working women. Which I suppose I am slightly doing now. slinks off like a ranty hypocrite

I know someone earning about 60k a year through an MLM

Again - she might be earning £60k but what about after taking expenses off? That's the side of it that the MLM people never mention, that they're spending more than they're earning. But it's all about presenting this hugely successful image and hooking other people into the pyramid MLM scheme with you.

Someone on my social media sells Juice Plus. She posted the other day, claiming that she cant understand how people could think it is a scam, considering she makes a fullt time wage, working from home blah blah blah. I dont get it.

These are some really interesting blogs / articles on MLM
www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/how-much-can-you-earn-with-mlm-younique-we-calculate-its-probably-less-than-14-a-month/

ellebeaublog.com/poonique/

Someone posted them on anothe rMLM thread and I got lost for ages reading them!

Most MLM make nothing and all that meme positivity is pure bullsh*T. I've dabbled in selling clothes for a direct selling company, and while we weren't required to recruit, it was very hard to make salary level money back after you'd bought samples although profit was possible. Also, its super hard work constantly finding good places to sell without boring your close circle and having parties at people's houses is weird and dispiriting mostly.
I have one friend who works a real job and does mlm on the side. So in a way her actual job is subsidizing her mlm

I’m really loving Aleida’s story on season 6 OITNB - should tell us all we need to know about MLM!

Someone on MN a couple days ago on some post said to google Elle Beau and read her blog.
I was up till 3am.
Its so hilariously addictive. The writer is an ex 'employee' of somw shit makeup MLM called Younique. I urge anyone who hasnt read to read all the chapters. Its ridiculous the amount of lies and sheer cringe shit you have to peddle to make a sale.
Made me realise i had an MLMer on fb for months! She had been posting cringe-spirational quotes like 5 times a day using hashtags like #bossbabe #myownboss #foreverliving and id stopped following her, so reading the blog made me look her up again and lo and behold...she was peddling forever living stuff!

They make fuck all because very very very few people would buy overpriced shit like that without checking amazon or ebay first. Its awful how many vulnerable and not so savvy personalities get sucked into it.

Read the blog! You wont regret!

I read Elle Beau a few weeks ago and thought it was brilliant. But so many insist that they’re not target driven etc, then how do they make money??!! (I guess they don’t)

Here's what Body Shop bot posted (with further info redacted by me). This is in addition to her monthly salary huns! Looks suspiciously like an invoice rather than a wage slip to me 🧐

Erm, that's no pay slip!

Not a pay slip - there is no tax or NI info.

This image is useful - always good to know how many levels away from the top tier someone is

These people are desperate, they would sell their soul or anyone else's to get you hooked. 99.9% make no money but they just won't give up - it's liked a cult. If they are flashing their brand new white Range Rover all over their Facebook, it's being rented but they won't tell you that. If you get jealous because they've gone on holiday to Mexico with all the other clones, they all paid for it themselves and when they get there they are forced to pay out more on buying books and videos and other rubbish.

If you want to know how desperate they become, one woman told her best friend that she had just come from the hospital and had been diagnosed with cancer. She was expecting sympathy and empathy instead of which the best friend who worked for an MLM, tried to sell her the MLM aloe vera products 'because it can cure cancer'. End of a long standing friendship.

They lose all sense of reason.

If you want to know how desperate they become, one woman told her best friend that she had just come from the hospital and had been diagnosed with cancer. She was expecting sympathy and empathy instead of which the best friend who worked for an MLM, tried to sell her the MLM aloe vera products 'because it can cure cancer'. End of a long standing friendship.

There was a post on here not long ago where a mother was in a cafe talking to a friend about her very, very poorly son who was in hospital. An MLM seller overheard and approached her saying that she had some amazing juice to sell which would help him

I follow someone on Instagram that sells the aloe stuff and has done that as a full time job for a few years. The ‘want to join my business opportunity’ posts are few and far between so I’m not compelled to unfollow just yet. She occasionally posts payslips and seems to make a living from it and has won a few incentives/bonuses from the company. Maybe she’s just a unicorn among the MLM community. I can think of at least ten friends and colleagues that took on these ‘wonderful’ opportunities and now never hear about them - to be fair the scentsy, younique, Avon, whatever whatever isn’t an everyday purchase, it’s not something I need everyday
Someone needs to set up a bread and milk pyramid scheme!

I thought Avon wasn't MLM? Just rather hard work for not much money?

Most loose money

ellebeaublog.com/category/elles-poonique-story/

If you are self employed and just contracted by the company then you would have to send them an invoice and receive a remittance advice as evidence of payment. No tax showing as you would have to pay the tax yourself out of the gross amount.

I would think a MLM would earn commission based on sales though- so this would be worked out by the company and paid monthly with some sort of report showing the commission earned that month..

MLMs pay commission on sales.

MLM reps show their "commission" payments as if they were earnings, conveniently forgetting to take off their expenses. No other business does this. If you buy stock for £500 and sell it for £510, you don;t tell everyone you've earned £510 because you haven't. You've earned a tenner.

I'm make about a million pounds a year after expenses. I'm loving being part of a really exciting new brand that offers rainbow unicorn trips to the moon. If you want to know more, PM me.
We launched at Coachella. It was sooo amazing.

I have an old friend, flogs Tropic and seems to globe trot, currently preparing to go to SA. I have absolutely no idea what the hell is going on but she seems to be at galas all the time and leading a lavish lifestyle.

I used to go on residential boot camps . I did 2 -3 a year at the cost of approx £1000 each . I really enjoyed doing them and the people that ran it were great .
Then they started promoting this juice plus shit and really hard selling to people on the camp
It upset me that these people who know huge amounts about nutrition and sports and were professional for sucked into this shit

I stopped going and I know of several others that also stopped going due to this MLM shit